Jared Kushner had a previously undisclosed meeting with CEO of bank that financed Putin's ambitions
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President Donald Trump's son-in-law and top adviser, Jared Kushner, met with the CEO of Russia's state-owned Vnesheconombank in December 2016, The New York Times reported on Monday.
The meeting — which had not previously been disclosed and came on the heels of Kushner's meeting with Russia's ambassador to the US, Sergey Kislyak, at Trump Tower — recently caught the eye of the Senate Intelligence Committee, which is investigating Russia's interference in the 2016 election and whether any members of Trump's campaign were complicit.
Kislyak reportedly orchestrated the meeting between Kushner and Vnesheconombank CEO Sergey N. Gorkov, who was appointed by Russian President Vladimir Putin in January 2016 as part of a restructuring of the bank's management team, Bloomberg reported last year.
Gorkov, who graduated from the Federal Security Service (FSB) Academy of Russia in 1994, was the vice-president of Russia's state-controlled Sberbank before coming on to Vnesheconombank.
Putin first revamped Vnesheconombank, known as Russia's bank for Development and Foreign Economic Affairs, in 2007. The Russian leader turned it into "a pillar of his Kremlin-driven economy at the height of the oil boom" and took "personal control over key lending decisions," according to Bloomberg, which characterized it as "the bank that financed Vladimir Putin’s grandest ambitions."
"When oil prices were high, VEB lent huge sums to politically expedient but financially questionable initiatives such as infrastructure projects for the 2014 Winter Sochi Olympics," Reuters reported last year.
Between 2012-2014, Vnesheconombank was used as cover for Russian spy Evgeny Buryakov as he attempted to recruit New York City residents as intelligence sources for Moscow, according to the Department of Justice. Prior to that, Buryakov used Vnesheconombank as a cover to spy and recruit assets in South Africa.
The bank had huge success between 2007 and 2014, but it all came crashing down when oil prices tanked and President Barack Obama levied sanctions on Kremlin officials and entities over Russia's annexation of Crimea.
By February 2016, the bank, which says its official mission is to "take efforts to make the Russian economy more competitive, diversify it, and foster investment, was struggling to find enough cash to stay afloat. Its bailout needs had increased to $16 billion between 2016 and 2020, Reuters reported.
Kushner's meeting with Gorkov, the struggling bank's CEO, came as Kushner was trying to find investors for a Fifth Avenue office building in Manhattan that is set to be heavily financed by Anbang Insurance Group, a firm with ties to the Chinese government.
White House spokeswoman Hope Hicks told The Times on Monday that the "Kushner Tower" project wasn't discussed during his meeting with Gorkov, and a White House official said in a statement that Kushner took the meetings as part of his role as "the official primary point of contact with foreign governments and officials."
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More and more connections to Putin.
special prosecutor now.
We're going to have to punish every last one of these scumsuckers aren't we? None of them are clean.
when do we bring back hanging for treason?
Even if they were all Democrats I would be SCREAMING for a special prosecutor!! This isn't a political issue! It's a genuine concern! How is that not on more people's minds?
I really don't want to have to open that can of [url=https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1557690&p=51998747&viewfull=1#post51998747]chili[/url] but it kinda seems like I'm going to.
[QUOTE=Judas;52019441]when do we bring back hanging for treason?[/QUOTE]
Please God I hope so.
And nothing will happen
I want it to
but nothing is going to happen
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;52019473]And nothing will happen
I want it to
but nothing is going to happen[/QUOTE]
Honestly I agree. Don't know why we keep spamming these sorts of threads, or how the news runs around reporting on them. I bet you it'll end with the FBI just saying "well nothing of significance or legal precedent, sorry", which will just make anyone left of Trumpets seem like total cheesedicks.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;52019494]Honestly I agree. Don't know why we keep spamming these sorts of threads, or how the news runs around reporting on them. I bet you it'll end with the FBI just saying "well nothing of significance or legal precedent, sorry", which will just make anyone left of Trumpets seem like total cheesedicks.[/QUOTE]
Yeah let's not report on anything lol we might end up looking silly!
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;52019502]Yeah let's not report on anything lol we might end up looking silly![/QUOTE]
Didn't say that, but go right ahead and pretend that I did. Why does this happen every time I break the "Trump will get impeached" circlejerk?
What I mean is that the constant "TRUMP MAY HAVE LOOKED AT THE WORD RUSSIA DURING ELECTION!!!" headlines we get from CNN and whatnot are just folly, and will end up culminating in a big load of nothing that achieves exactly that: nothing.
Trump is president, and will be for the next 8 years. Nothing we can do about it, really, just best we ride it out.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;52019511]Didn't say that, but go right ahead and pretend that I did. Why does this happen every time I break the "Trump will get impeached" circlejerk?
What I mean is that the constant "TRUMP MAY HAVE LOOKED AT THE WORD RUSSIA DURING ELECTION!!!" headlines we get from CNN and whatnot are just folly, and will end up culminating in a big load of nothing that achieves exactly that: nothing.
Trump is president, and will be for the next 8 years. Nothing we can do about it, really, just best we ride it out.[/QUOTE]
When are you gonna start telling us where you got your time traveling powers
Because until you do I'd rather not see these pathetic copies of the same exact post you're obsessed with shoehorning into every single Trump thread
I understand your sceptism Zilla and it is good you are going against the crowd, however with all the various connections many Trump staff have to Russia, plus the fact that he has already lost a piece of his cabinet due to Russian connections, I think that it is important to report on these Russian connections that Trump appears to have. The fact that an investigation is even going ahead shows that there is something going on.
I don't exactly want Trump to be impeached - because that would mean that American democracy got completely fucked in November and also because the hardcore Trump supporters would cause violence - but things like this need to be investigated.
Also, Trump in my opinion is not getting four years. I think even if the Democrats do fuck up in their selection, with all the nonsense and shit that's already happened over these 9 weeks, I'm semi-confident that the American public will be sick of him by the time the four years are up.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;52019524]When are you gonna start telling us where you got your time traveling powers
Because until you do I'd rather not see these pathetic copies of the same exact post you're obsessed with shoehorning into every single Trump thread[/QUOTE]
Calm down dude. I'm just saying, we didn't see it with Hillary, and even if we have mountains of evidence with Trump, I'm fairly sure the FBI would be unwilling to make the outright [I]enormous[/I] leap to call for a vote of impeachment.
And even if they do call the vote, it's a republican held house+senate, why would they get rid of their moneymaker?
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;52019511]Didn't say that, but go right ahead and pretend that I did. Why does this happen every time I break the "Trump will get impeached" circlejerk?
What I mean is that the constant "TRUMP MAY HAVE LOOKED AT THE WORD RUSSIA DURING ELECTION!!!" headlines we get from CNN and whatnot are just folly, and will end up culminating in a big load of nothing that achieves exactly that: nothing.
Trump is president, and will be for the next 8 years. Nothing we can do about it, really, just best we ride it out.[/QUOTE]
Man, you are the perfect example of the WORST possible attitude to have in situation you are unsatisfied with. So be kind enough to other people and stop acting like everyone's an idiot for deciding to stand up and fight while you're too busy drowning in self-pity or whatever is going on your end.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;52019539]Calm down dude. I'm just saying, we didn't see it with Hillary, and even if we have mountains of evidence with Trump, I'm fairly sure the FBI would be unwilling to make the outright [I]enormous[/I] leap to call for a vote of impeachment.
And even if they do call the vote, it's a republican held house+senate, why would they get rid of their moneymaker?[/QUOTE]
Surely if Trump is found to have committed a crime the House and Senate will be forced to impeach him?
EDIT: also lads, while I don't agree with Zilla, don't attack her over this.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;52019539]Calm down dude. I'm just saying, we didn't see it with Hillary, and even if we have mountains of evidence with Trump, I'm fairly sure the FBI would be unwilling to make the outright [I]enormous[/I] leap to call for a vote of impeachment.
And even if they do call the vote, it's a republican held house+senate, why would they get rid of their moneymaker?[/QUOTE]
But I never said he's getting impeached?? Leave it to someone who complained about putting words in people's mouths less than 5 minutes ago to do the exact same thing as long as it ~breaks the circlejerk~
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;52019511]Didn't say that, but go right ahead and pretend that I did. Why does this happen every time I break the "Trump will get impeached" circlejerk?[/QUOTE]
I think Trump's getting 4 years and losing in 2020. If you want to argue against someone who thinks he's getting impeached... wait until they post about it in this thread, maybe?
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;52019559]But I never said he's getting impeached??[/QUOTE]
I didn't say that you did.
I'm saying in reference to other threads and the general attitudes about the topic. I named nobody in particular.
[QUOTE=Dom Pyroshark;52019544]stop acting like everyone's an idiot[/QUOTE]
Never did that
[QUOTE=Dom Pyroshark;52019544]for deciding to stand up and fight while you're too busy drowning in self-pity or whatever is going on your end.[/QUOTE]
Also, where have I been against people going against Trump? Not even in this thread am I against it. In fact, I'm all for it. God I'd love to see the guy booted out of office as much as the next person. I've always been on the side of the protests [I]and[/I] those in government who oppose him.
I have no clue where you're getting this idea.
I get Zilla's position. The guy does seem pretty much bulletproof right now but Watergate took 2 years with the dripping and Nixon was a genius who almost never fucked up.
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[editline]27th March 2017[/editline]
Never did that[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;52019494]Don't know why we keep spamming these sorts of threads[/QUOTE]
No, you didn't but you implied very heavily uselessness of discussing these topics as if everything is already settled. And because I really don't like your kind of attitude, I went with an exaggeration.
Not like any of that changes anything tho. Your attitude still IS wrong and dangerous.
[QUOTE=Dom Pyroshark;52019622]No, you didn't but you implied very heavily uselessness of discussing these topics as if everything is already settled. And because I really don't like your kind of attitude, I went with an exaggeration.[/QUOTE]
Good to know I guess but I don't know how disagreeing with the majority here on a single topic is "dangerous".
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;52019579]Also, where have I been against people going against Trump? Not even in this thread am I against it. In fact, I'm all for it. God I'd love to see the guy booted out of office as much as the next person. I've always been on the side of the protests [I]and[/I] those in government who oppose him.
I have no clue where you're getting this idea.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;52019494]Honestly I agree. Don't know why we keep spamming these sorts of threads[/QUOTE]
Take a wild guess.
Informing people on the issue is one form of fight against someone who has been actively trying discredit anyone who goes against their narrative. That's why we "spam these threads". Because we refuse eat up that bullshit THEY put out.
[QUOTE=Dom Pyroshark;52019653]Take a wild guess.
Informing people on the issue is one form of fight against someone who has been actively trying discredit anyone who goes against their narrative. That's why we "spam these threads". Because we refuse eat up that bullshit THEY put out.[/QUOTE]
Well, I see what you mean. I guess I was a little too harsh with that post and I can understand why it rustled some feathers. Didn't intend it to come across as so hostile, I'll choose better wording next time.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;52019659]Well, I see what you mean. I guess I was a little too harsh with that post and I can understand why it rustled some feathers. Didn't intend it to come across as so hostile, I'll choose better wording next time.[/QUOTE]
It's okay, I do understand why you'd have this attitude and I can't really blame you for it. Ultimately, it's your choice how you decide to respond to this situation but belittling others' attempts at fighting is not fair, especially to those who might not have any other way of making their voice and fears heard.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;52019461]I really don't want to have to open that can of [url=https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1557690&p=51998747&viewfull=1#post51998747]chili[/url] but it kinda seems like I'm going to.[/QUOTE]
How did you go from here to being fairly certain of the opposite?
Also in that other post you're calling it a "spook tactic" which seems like downplaying it further than what we already know. If stuff from the dossier continues to be confirmed and the Republicans look the other way it's going to be unprecedented.
You won't see me jumping into every thread calling for hangings but I don't think something rather than nothing at all is too unlikely.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;52019511]Didn't say that, but go right ahead and pretend that I did. Why does this happen every time I break the "Trump will get impeached" circlejerk?
What I mean is that the constant "TRUMP MAY HAVE LOOKED AT THE WORD RUSSIA DURING ELECTION!!!" headlines we get from CNN and whatnot are just folly, and will end up culminating in a big load of nothing that achieves exactly that: nothing.
Trump is president, and will be for the next 8 years. Nothing we can do about it, really, just best we ride it out.[/QUOTE]
Because the President or his associates doing bad things needs to be known, regardless of whether or not it ends in FBI indictment.
The news doesn't just turn off because you're tired of seeing how godawful our President is.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;52019539]Calm down dude. I'm just saying, we didn't see it with Hillary, and even if we have mountains of evidence with Trump, I'm fairly sure the FBI would be unwilling to make the outright [I]enormous[/I] leap to call for a vote of impeachment.
And even if they do call the vote, it's a republican held house+senate, why would they get rid of their moneymaker?[/QUOTE]
when new evidence in Hillary's case came out, Comey called it regardless of how it affected her chances, and then when it was done he did what he thought was best. now i don't know what'll happen if the evidence suggests Trump really is guilty of [I]freaking treason[/I], but Comey's not the one you should be worried about.
if Comey decides Trump is guilty of treason and still doesn't pursue [I]any[/I] action, i'll brush my teeth with my foot. as in i'll have the toothbrush attached to my foot, not just putting my toes in my mouth, because that would be gross.
:freakout:
Has there been a day without this kind of thing recently?
[QUOTE=Judas;52019441]when do we bring back hanging for treason?[/QUOTE]
You know you're a psychopath right?
[QUOTE=Mr_Razzums;52019896]You know you're a psychopath right?[/QUOTE]
While I agree that the death penalty should be abolished, what the hell man
Good to know that you have the training and education necessary to declare someone a [i]psychopath[/i] based on a single fucking post on an internet forum.
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