For those who haven't heard of it, watch this:
[video=youtube;yr5cjyokVUs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr5cjyokVUs[/video]
Doesn't explain it that in-depth compared to the others I've watched but it's probably the most intriguing.
I think it's a deeply important study and as the video says, it shows how no matter where you are in the world, or who you are, authority affects you in ways you might not even realise, and that the Nazi that shot your great-grandfather could and probably would have been you, being under the same amount of authority.
It's a vital study because it didn't need a holocaust to prove it.
[QUOTE=Cypher_09;47583921]I think it's a deeply important study and as the video says, it shows how no matter where you are in the world, or who you are, authority affects you in ways you might not even realise, and that the Nazi that shot your great-grandfather could and probably would have been you, being under the same amount of authority.
It's a vital study because it didn't need a holocaust to prove it.[/QUOTE]
During the experiment they were frequently reminded that they weren't responsible for any harm, while the Nazis knew they were. Also, unless you're one of the [URL="http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Great_Khans"]Great Khans[/URL] (you know, because they look away from their victims before killing them) you'd be looking at the victim face-to-face while in the experiment the teacher and student were put in separate rooms.
Anyways, I can't believe a few guys expanded on this by using an actual puppy which received actual shocks.
[QUOTE=Hugo Strange;47583959]During the experiment they were frequently reminded that they weren't responsible for any harm, while the Nazis knew they were. Also, unless you're one of the [URL="http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Great_Khans"]Great Khans[/URL] (you know, because they look away from their victims before killing them) you'd be looking at the victim face-to-face while in the experiment the teacher and student were put in separate rooms.
Anyways, I can't believe a few guys expanded on this by using an actual puppy which received actual shocks.[/QUOTE]
The Nazis knew they were responsible, but it's not the same. They were responsible, but they wouldn't have been killed/locked up for executing a Jew as they would be now. They were responsible, but their backs were covered so that didn't factor. It's the same as not being responsible. They were secure in their own world of "I live in Germany, we're taking over Europe nobody can touch us".
Is there not a part of the experiment that didn't include the screen separating the people? I'm sure in Psychology we covered that part too.
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[QUOTE=Hugo Strange;47583959]
Anyways, I can't believe a few guys expanded on this by using an actual puppy which received actual shocks.[/QUOTE]
You can't believe it? Many many crazy experiments have been conducted in the name of Psychology. I.e. The Bobo Doll Experiment. The attachment ones are mostly so unethical they wouldn't be done nowadays. I'd still jump at a chance to be a subject in the Stanford Prison Experiment
[QUOTE=Cypher_09;47584080]The Nazis knew they were responsible, but it's not the same. They were responsible, but they wouldn't have been killed/locked up for executing a Jew as they would be now. They were responsible, but their backs were covered so that didn't factor. It's the same as not being responsible. They were secure in their own world of "I live in Germany, we're taking over Europe nobody can touch us".
Is there not a part of the experiment that didn't include the screen separating the people? I'm sure in Psychology we covered that part too.
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You can't believe it? Many many crazy experiments have been conducted in the name of Psychology. I.e. The Bobo Doll Experiment. The attachment ones are mostly so unethical they wouldn't be done nowadays. I'd still jump at a chance to be a subject in the Stanford Prison Experiment[/QUOTE]
There was a third variation of the experiment where the teacher and student were in the same room, but it probably required great acting to pull that off. Anyways, the Stanford Prison experiment messed up a lot of the subjects within 6 days - some developed sadistic tendencies, others went through mental trauma.
[QUOTE=Hugo Strange;47584160]There was a third variation of the experiment where the teacher and student were in the same room, but it probably required great acting to pull that off. Anyways, the Stanford Prison experiment messed up a lot of the subjects within 6 days - some developed sadistic tendencies, others went through mental trauma.[/QUOTE]
You're telling me you wouldn't still sign up though? Especially if you got to be a "warden"
John Wayne get
[QUOTE=Cypher_09;47584181]You're telling me you wouldn't still sign up though? Especially if you got to be a "warden"
John Wayne get[/QUOTE]
They decided who would play who by the toss of a coin though.
To inflict atrocities one has to dehumanize the victim first. The reason that in prison names are replaced by numbers. And one is equated to the likes of animals like pigs etc. We are less troubled by killing something which is not human.
A vitally informative experiment, but a rather homogenous cohort.
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