• Turkish jets bomb Kurdish PKK rebels near Iraq
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[QUOTE]Turkish F-16 and F-4 warplanes have bombed Kurdish PKK rebel targets in Hakkari province near the Iraqi border, Turkish media report. Both sides have been observing a ceasefire and it is the first major air raid on the PKK since March 2013. Hurriyet daily said the air raids near the south-eastern village of Daglica on Monday caused "heavy casualties". Kurds are angry at Turkey's refusal to help defend the Syrian border town of Kobane from Islamic State militants. The Turkish newspapers Cumhuriyet and Milliyet have also reported clashes on Monday between the PKK and troops in the Tunceli area of east-central Turkey, far from the border. The Turkish military said the Daglica air strikes were a response to sustained Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) shelling of a military outpost in the area. The PKK had attacked the outpost for three days with heavy machine guns and rocket launchers, Hurriyet reported.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29611582[/url]
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Changed title to: Turkish jets bomb Kurdish PKK rebels near Iraq From: Turkey resumes bombing of kurds
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;46229921]Can you please make it "in Turkey near Iraqi Border" or at least "near Iraqi Border" or am I asking for a lot?[/QUOTE] I took the title from the BBC article itself, I think it's good enough. I mean it says [B]near[/B] Iraq.
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;46229896]Read the article, nobody is bombing "the kurds" or PYD or Kobane or Kurdish Regional Government of Iraq's Peshmerga [/QUOTE] Actually, the PKK is the primary Kurdish force successfully fighting ISIS, and the ones responsible for saving the Peshmerga and the Yazidis. [QUOTE]P.K.K. units are widely credited with engineering the rescue of thousands of Yazidis who were trapped on Mount Sinjar and facing annihilation. P.K.K. fighters established an evacuation corridor from the summit of the mountain, where the Yazidis had languished for days. The P.K.K. also rushed to the aid of the pesh merga after Islamic State fighters threatened the Kurdish capital, Erbil, by overrunning Makhmur, a nearby Kurdish town.[/QUOTE] According to [URL="http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/13/world/middleeast/kurdish-rebels-assail-turkish-inaction-on-isis-as-peril-to-peace-talks.html"]NYTimes[/URL].
So... Turkey are the bad guys? I mean, they just bombed the folks fighting ISIS, so...
[QUOTE=bravehat;46230001]So... Turkey are the bad guys? I mean, they just bombed the folks fighting ISIS, so...[/QUOTE] PKK is a more immediate danger to them.
[QUOTE=bravehat;46230001]So... Turkey are the bad guys? I mean, they just bombed the folks fighting ISIS, so...[/QUOTE] It's not so black and white. Just because they are fighting ISIS doesn't give them privilege to attack Turkish military posts.
[QUOTE=HJ23;46230051]It's not so black and white. Just because they are fighting ISIS doesn't give them privilege to attack Turkish military posts.[/QUOTE] Ah, wasn't aware they were actually attacking Turkish stuff too, thought they were basically just rolling in and bombing them, didn't knew there was already an ongoing thing.
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;46230088]So much bad reading in this thread [editline]14th October 2014[/editline] My point is valid, we didnt bomb people in Kobane or Northern Iraq. We bombed the PKK rebels [B]in Turkey[/B].[/QUOTE] No argument there. However, if I understand correctly the same PKK are at least part of the Kurd fighters that are fighting ISIS in Iraq, which is why for you're seeing this reaction in the media and here in the thread. Turkey is refusing to fight ISIS, but are fighting the people fighting ISIS. You know. Personally, I'm more curious about the "heavy casualties" reported in the OP. Specifically, how many there were, and if there were any civilians involved.
This corner of the world is a clusterfuck.
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;46230541]I dont think civilians walk around in mountains or caves like that, you know, where PKK militants generally hide. Its not like we are bombing villages or civilian zones. And Turkey is not refusing to fight ISIS. We want to go in Syria but we are denied, we sent arms to Peshmerga and provided all kinds of humanitarian relief to Kobane, including a safe passage for refugees, who totaled to 200 thousand I think (the ones from Kobane). [editline]14th October 2014[/editline] Noticed this now, article says near the village but it is a reference point, to give you a general idea where the bombing was. Militants dont hide in villages or civilian zones, they hide in camps, caves or mountains.[/QUOTE] I asked because I honestly don't know anything about this topic, and no source I could find would elaborate beyond what was in the OP. Thanks for the info.
Turkey is just waiting for ISIS to clear out the Kurdish so they can move in and establish the Osmanlıların yeni İmparatorluğu.
[QUOTE=Megadave;46230745]Turkey is just waiting for ISIS to clear out the Kurdish so they can move in and establish the Osmanlıların yeni İmparatorluğu.[/QUOTE] That Turkish though.
[QUOTE=Megadave;46230745]Turkey is just waiting for ISIS to clear out the Kurdish so they can move in and establish the Osmanlıların yeni İmparatorluğu.[/QUOTE] That google translate. $10$ it's probably wrong
If there's one thing history has taught me, it's that Turkey is really great at acting out genocide and then denying it completely. So I really wouldn't be surprised if that was their plan once ISIS is gone, but this is also the 21st century so I hope not.
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;46231729]%95 it is wrong, assuming he meant "New Ottoman Empire" but this is "New Empire of the Ottomans." instead.[/QUOTE] Funny thing is I typed in "New Empire of the Ottomans", and thought it would be backwards.
[QUOTE=bravehat;46230072]Ah, wasn't aware they were actually attacking Turkish stuff too, thought they were basically just rolling in and bombing them, didn't knew there was already an ongoing thing.[/QUOTE] PKK is a terrorist organisation, Turkey does not attack "Kurds".
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