• Why aren't you agnostic?
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Do you really think that you know more about the afterlife than I? Now myself a mere boy, knows not what I cannot understand, but understands that which I cannot. You people label yourselves, some Christian, some Jewish, and some Atheist; however all you really are is an Ignoramus. How can you know the unknown I ask, how can you try and force your beliefs upon me; as if I am some mere sponge, dry of all substance, that has been cast alone in a dark drawer, unable to adapt without your presence. However it is you that is the fool! You are the sponge that drinks from my knowledge, for I am able to think rationally, correctly; while you blindly make assumptions, and then try to make them seem like believes. HA I say, for it is you who will dread the dreary afterlife; your expectations shattered, while I, a man of my sights and sounds will be presently surprised, with things unable to be imagined by the human mind. For I am the true savior, the one who preaches of my experiences, and knows what my mind is capable of. Be weary puny believer, or you shall face disappointment that of which you could never imagine; you think you're braver than me because you make the assumptions of that which cannot be assumed? Ha I say I again, I pity your egotistical mind, and hope that it shall be cast away, while I a man of my sights and sounds will one day be able to understand the understandable, to learn the unlearnable, to teach the unteachable, and to LIVE THE UNLIVABLE! For it is I who will truly walk the path of knowledge, while you simpletons stay close to your assumptions, secretly yearning to be a man of sight and sound, like I. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Religion thread" - Dragon))[/highlight]
What.
I'm agnostic :saddowns: Why should we listen to you? You sanded your face...
Because I hate preachers such as yourself with their left-wing voting and their walls of text and their... in ma day...*mumblegrumble*
I'm an atheist, you agnostic people are just pussies that are afraid to say anything beyond that because of the extremist Christfags.
What the hell are you talking about?
[QUOTE=FLoggin Moffins;19047143]Do you really think that you know more about the afterlife than I? Now myself a mere boy, knows not what I cannot understand, but understands that which I cannot. You people label yourselves, some Christian, some Jewish, and some Atheist; however all you really are is an Ignoramus. How can you know the unknown I ask, how can you try and force your beliefs upon me; as if I am some mere sponge, dry of all substance, that has been cast alone in a dark drawer, unable to adapt without your presence. However it is you that is the fool! You are the sponge that drinks from my knowledge, for I am able to think rationally, correctly; while you blindly make assumptions, and then try to make them seem like believes. HA I say, for it is you who will dread the dreary afterlife; your expectations shattered, while I, a man of my sights and sounds will be presently surprised, with things unable to be imagined by the human mind. For I am the true savior, the one who preaches of my experiences, and knows what my mind is capable of. Be weary puny believer, or you shall face disappointment that of which you could never imagine; you think you're braver than me because you make the assumptions of that which cannot be assumed? Ha I say I again, I pity your egotistical mind, and hope that it shall be cast away, while I a man of my sights and sounds will one day be able to understand the understandable, to learn the unlearnable, to teach the unteachable, and to LIVE THE UNLIVABLE! For it is I who will truly walk the path of knowledge, you simpletons stay close to your assumptions, while secretly yearning to be a man of sight and sound, like I.[/QUOTE] Why be on the fence? If you can't prove if there is an afterlife you can't prove there isn't one, leaving the door open to believe whatever.
[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;19047177]I'm an atheist, you agnostic people are just pussies that are afraid to say anything beyond that because of the extremist Christfags.[/QUOTE] I'm not afraid to say stuff beyond that, I just find it uncomfortable :downs:
Because you can't say that one religion is right over others. Pascals deal doesn't work. Stop trying to use it. Beside, being an infidel usually fucks you up more than being neutral.
Logically you must assume there is no god because there is no evidence for the existence of one. Just as you would assume you will not fly if you jump off a build, and like you assume Santa isn't real because there is no evidence for his existence. Agnostics are stupid. Whoever rated me box/disagree should have hit the reply button and tried to argue some sort of point instead of resorting to what might as well be ad hominem.
Go shave your face some more.
I'm atheist, that's why I'm not agnostic.
I don't let strange people on the internet influence my life decisions.
Why ARE YOU agnostic?
[QUOTE=lulzbocks;19047227]I don't let strange people on the internet influence my life decisions.[/QUOTE] Especially ones that take a sander to their face.
HEY HEY fuck you i'm agnostic not that it really matters fuck these threads are stupid ffffffff
We actually believe what we say, agnostics are the ones who are confused about what they really are. Atheist? Christian? Jewish? how can you say you know more than us if you can't even make up your fucking mind about what you believe? not trying to badmouth agnostics, just saying for the sake of argument.
I am agnostic, since there is no proof in the beginning of the universe, but there is not much proof in God either.
You're fucking deluded.
The way I think of it, atheism is organized agnosticism. Where an atheist would actively deny religion, an agnostic would simply not care.
[QUOTE=lulzbocks;19047227]I don't let strange people on the internet influence my life decisions.[/QUOTE] Young sir, I am in no way trying to impose my own believes on you, for that is the work of the Atheist mindset; a mindset which is based upon a limited understanding of the world. For how can thee who does not understand the world even begin to comprehend the vast world of the afterlife, but be warned; the Atheist will attempt to twist and contort your mind, just as the Christians did to them. For they were able to break away from that, but never quite completely left. So they go on living live trying to impose the same beliefs of Christianity, but through a different message. More pity to the weak I say, it's never too late to learn.
[QUOTE=FLoggin Moffins;19047143] Ha I say I again, I pity your egotistical mind, and hope that it shall be cast away, while I a man of my sights and sounds will one day be able to understand the understandable, to learn the unlearnable, to teach the unteachable, and to LIVE THE UNLIVABLE! For it is I who will truly walk the path of knowledge, [B]while you simpletons stay close to your assumptions[/B], secretly yearning to be a man of sight and sound, like I.[/QUOTE] TONS of science is based on assumptions. Ever seen a quark or an electron? No? Well our entire scientific world is centered on how we believe they work.
[QUOTE=FLoggin Moffins;19047299]Young sir, I am in no way trying to impose my own believes on you, for that is the work of the Atheist mindset; a mindset which is based upon a limited understanding of the world. For how can thee who does not understand the world even begin to comprehend the vast world of the afterlife, but be warned; the Atheist will attempt to twist and contort your mind, just as the Christians did to them. For they were able to break away from that, but never quite completely left. So they go on living live trying to impose the same beliefs of Christianity, but through a different message. More pity to the weak I say, it's never too late to learn.[/QUOTE] Now you're just bashing atheists.
I'm pretty sure he is just a troll.
Being a deist and being smart are not mutually exclusive.
[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;19047330]Being a deist and being smart are not mutually exclusive.[/QUOTE] But being logical always and being a deist is.
[QUOTE=Rowsdower;19047315]TONS of science is based on assumptions. Ever seen a quark or an electron? No? Well our entire scientific world is centered on how we believe they work.[/QUOTE] Yes, but those assumptions are of that which can be assumed, unlike the afterlife; of which must be experienced to be assumed, not assumed to be experienced.
I'm an atheist. I could say I'm an agnostic. I don't know for sure if there is or isn't a god. but neither can I say for sure that there isn't a land made of legos and cheesecake somewhere in the far corners of the universe. And yet, I can tell you with confidence that there isn't such a place, because there is no EVIDENCE for its existence. Just because you can't disprove something, doesn't mean you have no right to discount it.
After reading "A Brief History of Time" it removed my doubts about the all powerful and very much abstract "God" of most faiths. I believe that if there is an entity that created the Universe, it isn't a benevolent creature that crafted us in his image. More likely than not it's just a higher dimensional being that has the technology to manipulate the lower dimensions to its will. I'm not going to delve into the no boundary theory here, but here's the quote from Stephen Hawking: "The idea that space and time may form a closed surface without boundary also has profound implications for the role of God in the affairs of the universe. With the success of scientific theories in describing events, most people have come to believe that God allows the universe to evolve according to a set of laws and does not intervene in the universe to break these laws. However, the laws do not tell us what the universe should have looked like when it started – it would still be up to God to wind up the clockwork and choose how to start it off. So long as the universe had a beginning, we could suppose it had a creator. But if the universe is really completely self-contained, having no boundary or edge, it would have neither beginning nor end: it would simply be. What place, then, for a creator?"
Because I would like to think that even if god was proven to exist I still would not worship him. Look around at all of the evil in the world, if god is omnipotent and he allows this shit to exist, why the hell would I bow down to him?
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