• Hamas rejects Palestinian call for cease-fire
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[quote][B]Gaza (CNN) --[/B] Hamas on Tuesday rejected a call from Palestinian leadership in the West Bank for a 24-hour truce to halt the bloodshed in Gaza. A report by official Palestinian news agency WAFA said Palestinian leadership was offering a 24-hour truce, which could be extended to 72 hours, and that the idea had support from Hamas and Islamic Jihad, another militant group in Gaza. But Sami Abu Zuhri, a Hamas spokesman in Gaza, said the WAFA report was not true and "not related to the resistance," which "speaks for itself." "When we get guarantees from the Zionists for an international mediation regarding a humanitarian pause, then we can consider it," he said on Hamas TV. Hamas spokesman Osama Hamdan then told CNN by phone from Beirut that Hamas is open to the idea, proposed by President Mahmoud Abbas, of sending a Palestinian delegation to Egypt that could perhaps lead to a cease fire proposal. [/quote] CNN: [url]http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/29/world/meast/mideast-crisis/index.html?hpt=hp_t1[/url] This just in, the shitty Isreali government and the shitty Islamic militias dont give a rats ass about the people they claim to be protecting meanwhile the casualties pile up on both sides
First they ask for a ceasefire, now they reject it, will they make up their minds or not about it? Probably not unless Israel gets totally flattened, which is their primary aim in the first place.
Hamas is a huge danger to the people of Gaza. Their fanaticism is literally killing their own citizens.
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;45534596]First they ask for a ceasefire, now they reject it, will they make up their minds or not about it? Probably not unless Israel gets totally flattened, which is their primary aim in the first place.[/QUOTE] It might be a case of different groups/factions within Hamas. Also the conditions they proposed for ceasefire might not have been met.
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;45534596]First they ask for a ceasefire, now they reject it, will they make up their minds or not about it? Probably not unless Israel gets totally flattened, which is their primary aim in the first place.[/QUOTE] Its more appauling to me that they are rejecting a cease-fire from [I]thier own people[/I]
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;45534609]Its more appauling to me that they are rejecting a cease-fire from [I]thier own people[/I][/QUOTE] Militants are not known for caring for 'their own people' very much unless they want to know whether they broke their 'guidelines' or not.
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;45534609]Its more appauling to me that they are rejecting a cease-fire from [I]thier own people[/I][/QUOTE] The Hamas is a terrorist group, what do you expect? They're a reactionary force composed of young men who's families got killed by the IDF. They just hold De-facto control over Gaza, and people will continue supporting them as long as there are Palestinians killed at the hand of the IDF. Want to remove power from the Hamas? Bring stability to the region, whether economic or social.
[QUOTE=StrawberryClock;45534662]The Hamas is a terrorist group, what do you expect? They're a reactionary force composed of young men who's families got killed by the IDF. They just hold De-facto control over Gaza, and people will continue supporting them as long as there are Palestinians killed at the hand of the IDF. Want to remove power from the Hamas? Bring stability to the region, whether economic or social.[/QUOTE] Hamas can't been seen as just another Fatah II by selling out armed resistance to Israel since political resistance has often proved to been fruitless in the eyes of most Palestinians. It makes sense for them to draw this conflict out. The main purpose of this current fighting is "lift the blockade or we'll continue to fire rockets until you do". And honestly, the IDF can't fully stop Hamas without a huge and costly occupation which will likely prove disastrous for Israel. Not to mention the IDF are taking a surprising amount of casualties in this round of fighting. Its just going to be attrition with the civilians getting shat on.
[QUOTE=Gentry;45534810]Hamas can't been seen as just another Fatah II by selling out armed resistance to Israel since political resistance has often proved to been fruitless in the eyes of most Palestinians. It makes sense for them to draw this conflict out. The main purpose of this current fighting is "lift the blockade or we'll continue to fire rockets until you do".[/QUOTE] Yeah, pretty much. The longer this goes on the more power the Hamas will end up holding as more and more Palestinians see them as their last hope for resistance.
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;45534579]CNN: [url]http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/29/world/meast/mideast-crisis/index.html?hpt=hp_t1[/url]meanwhile the casualties pile up on both sides[/QUOTE] On both sides? [QUOTE=Svinnik;45534604]Hamas is a huge danger to the people of Gaza. Their fanaticism is literally killing their own citizens.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure it's the IDF shelling that's doing that.
[QUOTE=Taishu;45534945]On both sides? [/QUOTE] IDF casualties have been steadily rising since the ground offensive began, I seriously doubt that those conscripts families are happy to hear about losing loved ones
[QUOTE=Taishu;45534945]On both sides?[/QUOTE] The IDF are losing a lot of soldiers compared to other offensives. Hamas have really upped their game with all that Syria experience.
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;45535043]IDF casualties have been steadily rising since the ground offensive began, I seriously doubt that those conscripts families are happy to hear about losing loved ones[/QUOTE] Certainly, but to say that the casualties pile up on both sides, I would consider to be slightly misleading. I'm fairly certain, and correct me if I'm wrong (I'm not up to date on the exact numbers), that the casualties are piling up primarily on one side, and that is the one of the palestinian civilians.
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