• Spain arrests Anonymous suspects
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Lulzsec != Anonymous
Lulzsec is probably guys from 4chan infuriated by sony's anti piracy hunts. Edit: Also traced and arrested for using LOIC :downsbravo:
[QUOTE=Falchion;30370038]Lulzsec is probably guys from 4chan infuriated by sony's anti piracy hunts. Edit: Also traced and arrested for using LOIC :downsbravo:[/QUOTE] From 4chan, maybe, but in no way affiliated with Anonymous
You know what? I used to sympathize with Anonymous. I thought it was kinda cool what they were doing, how they were sticking it to the man, etc. etc. But man, looking back, all this seems somewhat childish. I am of the opinion that what started as a crusade for internet rights/freedom/whatever has devolved into a bunch of people causing chaos, while hiding behind the banner of righteousness. Right now, I just hope they all grow up and get over themselves. And yes, I know that LulzSec isn't officially Anonymous, but I think at heart they are. At the very least, they come from 4chan. I don't find it credible that they aren't. Perhaps they are a splinter group, but they are clearly cut from the same cloth. All their actions and such are in-line with Anonymous' tactics and their mentality.
I hope they arrest the leader of anonymous soon!!!
Some of the "proof" they found to charge those guys (Apart from the chatlogs, etc...): [img]http://www.rtve.es/imagenes/portavoz-policia-nacional-muestra-caretas-encontrada-casa-uno-detenidos-considerados-como-cupula-anonymous-espana/1307706318264.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=dialogical;30371205]You know what? I used to sympathize with Anonymous. I thought it was kinda cool what they were doing, how they were sticking it to the man, etc. etc. But man, looking back, all this seems somewhat childish. I am of the opinion that what started as a crusade for internet rights/freedom/whatever has devolved into a bunch of people causing chaos, while hiding behind the banner of righteousness. Right now, I just hope they all grow up and get over themselves. And yes, I know that LulzSec isn't officially Anonymous, but I think at heart they are. At the very least, they come from 4chan. I don't find it credible that they aren't. Perhaps they are a splinter group, but they are clearly cut from the same cloth. All their actions and such are in-line with Anonymous' tactics and their mentality.[/QUOTE] 'Anonymous' as an organisation (if that makes any sense, since it's effectively an organisation while simultaneously not being an organisation, I'm hoping you understand what I mean here because reading it back it sounds a bit weird) is incredibly flawed. The primary problem is that anybody can pick up the mantle and perform acts under it, something the media doesn't seem to grasp very well considering that they always write about them as if they have a central command structure or as an organised force. So while you may have those within their ranks who have honourable intentions and genuinely [I]do[/I] want to only target the corrupt etc, there are also those who do things like hacking random companies for the sheer sake of it. Further adding to the problems is that it seems to inherently target the young. The way I see it is that all of the kids, the twelve year olds etc see anonymous as an adventurous and rebellious sort of group. No doubt this is helped along by their dumb "We are legion" chant and stuff. So I feel that it is likely that the wrong sorts of groups get in on this stuff. So while Anonymous it's self may proclaim that it has noble intentions, the many flaws of the very group and the fact that it is internally splintered into many, [I]many[/I] countless "sub-factions" if you will, each with their own goals or twisted views of "noble intentions" make the group unlikely to ever be able to uphold any sort of coherent philosophy, let alone be able to act on their apparent good intention on any scale larger than a few isolated protests (see their actions against Scientology) or leaking of emails pointing to corruption within certain companies. And that's what I believe leads to things like the recent spates of seemingly pointless hacking, and possibly the formation of groups such as Lulzsec. I hope all of that made sense :ohdear:
[QUOTE=Jorori;30371309]Some of the "proof" they found to charge those guys (Apart from the chatlogs, etc...): [img]http://www.rtve.es/imagenes/portavoz-policia-nacional-muestra-caretas-encontrada-casa-uno-detenidos-considerados-como-cupula-anonymous-espana/1307706318264.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] My sister has a Guy Fawkes mask. She's a big fan of V for Vendetta.
[QUOTE=Jorori;30371309]Some of the "proof" they found to charge those guys (Apart from the chatlogs, etc...): [img]http://www.rtve.es/imagenes/portavoz-policia-nacional-muestra-caretas-encontrada-casa-uno-detenidos-considerados-como-cupula-anonymous-espana/1307706318264.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] I like how he is smirking and thinking "bunch of faggots"
[QUOTE=dialogical;30371205]You know what? I used to sympathize with Anonymous. I thought it was kinda cool what they were doing, how they were sticking it to the man, etc. etc. But man, looking back, all this seems somewhat childish. I am of the opinion that what started as a crusade for internet rights/freedom/whatever has devolved into a bunch of people causing chaos, while hiding behind the banner of righteousness. Right now, I just hope they all grow up and get over themselves. And yes, I know that LulzSec isn't officially Anonymous, but I think at heart they are. At the very least, they come from 4chan. I don't find it credible that they aren't. Perhaps they are a splinter group, but they are clearly cut from the same cloth. All their actions and such are in-line with Anonymous' tactics and their mentality.[/QUOTE] You don't seem to realise Anonymous is just a very big group of people, each of them with their own ideals, thoughts and skills, united under a name. Anyone can do whatever he wants and mark himself as Anonymous.
[QUOTE=Downsider;30371678]My sister has a Guy Fawkes mask. She's a big fan of V for Vendetta.[/QUOTE] Do they have chatlogs of her trying to hack people?
[QUOTE=Janizaurd;30373446]You don't seem to realise Anonymous is just a very big group of people, each of them with their own ideals, thoughts and skills, united under a name. Anyone can do whatever he wants and mark himself as Anonymous.[/QUOTE] Which only makes it weirder that Anon claims involvement in something or swiftly denies it.
Nobody expects the spanish inquisition.
[QUOTE=Janizaurd;30373446]You don't seem to realise Anonymous is just a very big group of people, each of them with their own ideals, thoughts and skills, united under a name. Anyone can do whatever he wants and mark himself as Anonymous.[/QUOTE] That was actually part of my point.
I support lulzsec and anonymous, simply because they're fighting the power; sticking it to the man and that's like, totally rad.
[QUOTE=blubafoon;30382945]I support lulzsec and anonymous, simply because they're fighting the power; sticking it to the man and that's like, totally rad.[/QUOTE] They're not exactly doing anything other than sharing passwords.
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