$32,000 Of Taxpayer Money Spent On Guide on "How To Properly and Safely Shoot Heroin"
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[quote]NEW YORK — Do you want to learn a safer way to shoot heroin? New York City has a guide for that.
The city's Department of Health and Mental Hygiene spent $32,000 of tax money on 70,000 copies that offer information on how to prepare drugs carefully and care for veins to avoid infection.
"This is a tremendous misuse of city funds, and I'm going to see what I can do to stop it," Democratic New York City Council member Peter Vallone Jr. told the New York Post. "It's sick."
And, it's not just taxpayers who are angry.
The state's top official with the Drug Enforcement Administration calls the "Take Charge Take Care" guide a "step-by-step instruction on how to inject a poison."
DEA special agent-in-charge John Gilbride says the handout is disturbing.
"It concerns me that the city would produce a how-to on using drugs," Gilbride told the Post. "Heroin is extremely potent. You may only get the chance to use it once. To suggest there is a method of using that alleviates the dangers, that's very disturbing."
The 16-page booklet features seven comics-like illustrations and offers such advice as "Warm your body (jump up and down) to show your veins," and "Find the vein before you try to inject."
A health official says the goal is to promote health and save lives. Assistant Commissioner Daliah Heller says instructions on how to perform injections were included because there's "a less harmful way to inject."
The illustrated guidebook offers information on HIV testing and the dangers of sharing needles.[/quote]
[url]http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/heroin_for_dummies_oLIfe1Gxl7RMk9iJZiWlnL[/url]
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They should tell them the wrong way to inject so all the junkies OD and we don't have to worry about it.
I'm SOOO reading that next bookclub meet.
Great, now how about a how-to guide on Hot-wiring Automobiles?
At first i was thinking "why the fuck?" but yeah, this makes sense.
There are how to guides for everything, They know they can't stop everybody from doing something illegal so they at least want the people who do to take the most safe approach...
Even though heroin is fucking stupid anyways.
I really think this is a pretty good idea. You'd be surprised how easy it is to fuck up doing that, and not only how many junkies don't know what they're doing.
But, the conservative right is going to bitch and moan and whine and cry about this.
They offer syringes, clean, so people don't pass HIV, or other nasty infectious diseases to each other.
So why aren't they complaining about that either?
Why the hell would you do this for the Heroin junkies, most of them know this shit already and just choose to ignore it.
:argh:
They'd be spending more money if they didn't and the junkies fucked themselves up and went to the hospital and jail on taxpayer dollars.
I'd pick up a copy for shits and giggles.
If it keeps ten people from turning up in hospital emergency rooms begging to be treated because the flesh is dissolving off their forearms, I'd say it's worth it.
People aren't going to stop using heroin, so they might as well do it in a way that won't completely fuck them up for life.
That's $2.318840579710145e-4 dollars for every taxpayer. Think you'll survive?
Anyway, this is a good idea.
I remember there being talk of state-run drughouses in Denmark, I don't recall whether they were actually established or not. Basically the addicts would have a safe place to do their drug of choice, with steril needles and even prescribed heroin for some. The people who went their would be encouraged to go to rehab, and would be offered information and support.
I think it's a brilliant idea.
When you take the drug business off the street and instead offer it at an affordable price, or even free for the ones who have it real bad, crime goes down. What junkie is gonna break in and rob a home to afford a $200 fix from a shady fella down the street when he can go have a cup of coffee and shoot up for $20 with clean needles and nurses watching out for you?
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But, the conservative right is going to bitch and moan and whine and cry about this.[/QUOTE]
And so am I.
What a dumbass way to spend tax money.
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[QUOTE=^0mKTank;19439504]They'd be spending more money if they didn't and the junkies fucked themselves up and went to the hospital and jail on taxpayer dollars.[/QUOTE]
There is a flaw with your logic
heroine junkies don't go to bookstores
Wait until they learn that $64,000 Was spent on a guide for growing, rolling and smoking Cannabis safely and properly. :v:
[QUOTE=Madman_Andre;19439983]Wait until they learn that $64,000 Was spent on a guide for growing, rolling and smoking Cannabis safely and properly. :v:[/QUOTE]Fuck wheres my copy?
[QUOTE=Madman_Andre;19439983]Wait until they learn that $64,000 Was spent on a guide for growing, rolling and smoking Cannabis safely and properly. :v:[/QUOTE]
Who cares? Most people who I know that smoke weed are actually intelligent, and weed isn't necessarily harmful or dangerous in moderation. A lot less dangerous than alcohol or tobacco even.
On one hand I see a problem, I wouldn't want my tax dollars to go to helping junkies know how to shoot up. If it ended up encouraging heroine use then I am also spending money for them to be locked up if they got caught.
On the other hand though I would be spending my money on them if they ended up getting hurt.
All in all I don't live in NY and I don't have a job yet so none of my tax money is going to them. As long as it isn't a lot of money, and it contributes to a person's safety then I guess I am for it.
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[QUOTE=Perfumly;19440046]Who cares? Most people who I know that smoke weed are actually intelligent, and weed isn't necessarily harmful or dangerous in moderation. A lot less dangerous than alcohol or tobacco even.[/QUOTE]
I don't think money should be spent teaching them how to grow, however. Safety is one thing but recreation is another. If they want to learn I think it should be fine if they just look it up online but I wouldn't want my money spent to teach them.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;19440046]Who cares? Most people who I know that smoke weed are actually intelligent, and weed isn't necessarily harmful or dangerous in moderation. A lot less dangerous than alcohol or tobacco even.[/QUOTE]
Not to go off topic but it doesnt matter if its less hamrful, smoking anything is harmful.
[QUOTE=Hunterbrute;19440099]Not to go off topic but it doesnt matter if its less hamrful, smoking anything is harmful.[/QUOTE]
It's just hypocritical to make one substance illegal when we have more harmful substances legal and easily available at any gas station or grocery store.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;19440128]It's just hypocritical to make one substance illegal when we have more harmful substances legal and easily available at any gas station or grocery store.[/QUOTE]
Im all for making drugs legal, but the question is where do you draw the line?
Weed?
Crack?
Meth?
Where do you stop and say one drug is worse than another?
[QUOTE=Hunterbrute;19440152]Im all for making drugs legal, but the question is where do you draw the line?
Weed?
Crack?
Meth?
Where do you stop and say one drug is worse than another?[/QUOTE]
That's why my personal opinion is there is no line. Let a person smoke meth if they want, or shoot up heroine, or smoke weed. It is their choice and I don't think the government has the right to tell us what to do with our body as long as we aren't hurting someone else.
[QUOTE=Hunterbrute;19440152]Im all for making drugs legal, but the question is where do you draw the line?
Weed?
Crack?
Meth?
Where do you stop and say one drug is worse than another?[/QUOTE]
You can legally purchase and chug a bottle of drain cleaner and die, so it's pretty obvious that drugs are just banned arbitrarily and that no line has [i]ever[/i] been drawn anywhere.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;19439940]And so am I.
What a dumbass way to spend tax money.
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There is a flaw with your logic
heroine junkies don't go to bookstores[/QUOTE]
Maybe not, but they still have friends and family that would know and could give it to them.
[QUOTE=Hunterbrute;19440099]Not to go off topic but it doesnt matter if its less hamrful, smoking anything is harmful.[/QUOTE]
But marijuana also has pharmaceutical uses.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;19440220]But marijuana also has pharmaceutical uses.[/QUOTE]
So does heroine, cocaine and amphetamines.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;19440181]That's why my personal opinion is there is no line. Let a person smoke meth if they want, or shoot up heroine, or smoke weed. It is their choice and I don't think the government has the right to tell us what to do with our body as long as we aren't hurting someone else.[/QUOTE]
Many drugs alter a persons perception of reality and they can become a danger to others and themself.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;19440200]You can legally purchase and chug a bottle of drain cleaner and die, so it's pretty obvious that drugs are just banned arbitrarily and that no line has [i]ever[/i] been drawn anywhere.[/QUOTE]
Suicide is illegal.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;19440220]But marijuana also has pharmaceutical uses.[/QUOTE]
So does alcohol.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;19440232]So does heroine, cocaine and amphetamines.[/QUOTE]
Pretty much this.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;19440232]So does heroine, cocaine and amphetamines.[/QUOTE]
Yeah but in the case of cocaine and heroine, the bad effects outweigh the good effects. Which is why cocaine and heroine is put into some prescription drugs with other chemicals.
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[QUOTE=Hunterbrute;19440335]
Suicide is illegal.
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I don't see what this has to do with the drug discussion. Maybe the person who chugged it thought it would be a good time i dunno.
It seems like a bad idea but it's great for those who do heroine then quit. They won't have as fucked up veins and recovery will be easier and they can get their life back on track
[QUOTE=Hunterbrute;19440335]Many drugs alter a persons perception of reality and they can become a danger to others and themself.
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Then punish them for their irresponsibility and what they did while they were on the drug, not because they [i]might[/i] act bad. Some people can handle themselves on drugs and some can't, punish the latter, not the former.
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