• Mail Online tells their audience that they are stupid.
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[quote]Right-wingers tend to be less intelligent than left-wingers, and people with low childhood intelligence tend to grow up to have racist and anti-gay views, says a controversial new study.Conservative politics work almost as a 'gateway' into prejudice against others, say the Canadian academics.The paper analysed large UK studies which compared childhood intelligence with political views in adulthood across more than 15,000 people. The authors claim that people with low intelligence gravitate towards right-wing views because they make them feel safe. Crucially, people's educational level is not what determines whether they are racist or not - it's innate intelligence, according to the academics. Social status also appears to play no part. The study, published in Psychological Science, claims that right-wing ideology forms a 'pathway' for people with low reasoning ability to become prejudiced against groups such as other races and gay people. 'Cognitive abilities are critical in forming impressions of other people and in being open minded,' say the researchers. 'Individuals with lower cognitive abilities may gravitate towards more socially conservative right-wing ideologies that maintain the status quo. 'It provides a sense of order.'The study, by academics at Brock University in Ontario, Canada, used information from two UK studies from 1958 and 1970 , where several thousand children were assessed for intelligence at age 10 and 11, and then asked political questions aged 33.The 1958 National Child Development involved 4,267 men and 4,537 women born in 1958. The British Cohort Study involved 3,412 men and 3,658 women born in 1970.It's the first time the data from these studies has been used in this way. In adulthood, the children were asked whether they agreed with statements such as, 'I wouldn't mind working with people from other races,' and 'I wouldn't mind if a family of a different race moved next door.'They were also asked whether they agreed with statements about typically right-wing and socially conservative politics such as, 'Give law breakers stiffer sentences,' and 'Schools should teach children to obey authority.'The researchers also compared their results against a 1986 American study which included tests of cognitive ability and questions assessing prejudice against homosexuals. The authors claim that there is a strong correlation between low intelligence both as a child and an adult, and right-wing politics. The authors also claim that conservative politics is part of a complex relationship that leads people to become prejudices. 'Conservative ideology represents a critical pathway through which childhood intelligence predicts racism in adulthood,' says the paper. 'In psychological terms, the relation between intelligence and prejudice may stem from the propensity of individuals with lower cognitive ability to endorse more right wing conservative ideologies because such ideologies offer a psychological sense of stability and order.' 'Clearly, however, all socially conservative people are not prejudiced, and all prejudiced persons are not conservative.'[/quote] [URL]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2095549/Right-wingers-intelligent-left-wingers-says-controversial-study--conservative-politics-lead-people-racist.html[/URL] Once the Daily Mail starts saying that Right Wingers are dumb, you know the right wing is a no go area.
the government hates right people!
They reported on a study that found that children with low IQs generally end up having conservative beliefs and prejudices They did not say "hey readers / group that are likely to pay attention to us, you're retarded," all they did was report on that study.
Where's that "The Nation Says" image when you need it?
[I]CHILDREN WITH LOW IQ BECOME CONSERVATIVE, ARE THE MUSLIMS TO BLAME?[/I] The Daily Mail is made fun of so often it's a wonder there's still enough people in the world to read the bloody thing.
[quote] Let's be honest, if any of us had some intelligence anywhere near half way decent, we wouldn't be reading this rag would we? - Al, Camden, 3/2/2012 11:09 [/quote] Top rated comment.
[QUOTE=Cone;34574231][I]CHILDREN WITH LOW IQ BECOME CONSERVATIVE, ARE THE MUSLIMS TO BLAME?[/I] The Daily Mail is made fun of so often it's a wonder there's still enough people in the world to read the bloody thing.[/QUOTE] for every publication, no matter how stupid, there is ALWAYS an eager audience always
[QUOTE=Etcetera;34574237]Top rated comment.[/QUOTE] Holy burn.
anyone who trusts the daily-mail as a valid source of news is fucking stupid anyway its not even news, its just shit smeared over paper/your internet
I buy the mail every now and again to have a rant at it. Kind of like how Fox is a great comedy website. (you can pretend it's satire)
[QUOTE=thrawn2787;34574156]They reported on a study that found that children with low IQs generally end up having conservative beliefs and prejudices They did not say "hey readers / group that are likely to pay attention to us, you're retarded," all they did was report on that study.[/QUOTE] But their target audience is that audience.
It's like a train enthusiast magazine reporting how people who spot trains are twats. I have conservative beliefs, guess I'm just a retard then.
I think the dailymail has overtaken the times as the mosts most read online news website. EDIT: Yep, haha [url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2012/jan/25/dailymail-internet[/url] Also a good read from Charlie Brooker [url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/05/daily-mail-calls-rightwingers-stupid[/url]
It's like they've trolled themselves all the way around to the other end of the political compass.
[quote]This study does not appear to address the phenomenon of people becoming more right wing as they age. Many left-wing supporters abandon their opinions as the grow older and begin to realise that their socialist philosophy has been naive and simplistic. Faced with this evidence I would suggest that right wing views are often the result of life experience and accumulated wisdom. Or do the presumably liberal researchers who produced this study think that we just become stupid when we age?[/quote] totally scientific
[QUOTE=Darth_GW7;34575631][quote][B]Or do the presumably liberal researchers who produced this study think that we just become stupid when we age?[/B][/quote]totally scientific[/QUOTE] it certainly seemed to be the case with him
I'll turn that right back at him. "Old people are stupid. Lots of old people are right-wing. Join the dots."
[QUOTE]This study does not appear to address the phenomenon of people becoming more right wing as they age. Many left-wing supporters abandon their opinions as the grow older and begin to realise that their socialist philosophy has been naive and simplistic. Faced with this evidence I would suggest that right wing views are often the result of life experience and accumulated wisdom[/QUOTE] lol no, old people become trapped in their time so they become conservatives because they hate seeing everything they know change because it reminds them of how old they are then they die :v:
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[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;34575481]It's like they've trolled themselves all the way around to the other end of the political compass.[/QUOTE] Nah. This is, in all honesty, shockingly well written. Not, you know, well written as in "gives an accurate understanding of a piece of news", but well written as in "deliberately misinterpreted something in a way that's both difficult to peg as deliberate and still potent enough to rile up a target audience." The actual study in question says various things ([URL="http://pss.sagepub.com/content/early/2012/01/04/0956797611421206.full"]I'll call back to the full thing[/URL] but I'm just posting the abstract): [QUOTE]We proposed and tested mediation models in which lower cognitive ability predicts greater prejudice, an effect mediated through the endorsement of right-wing ideologies (social conservatism, right-wing authoritarianism) and low levels of contact with out-groups. In an analysis of two large-scale, nationally representative United Kingdom data sets (N = 15,874), we found that lower general intelligence (g) in childhood predicts greater racism in adulthood, and this effect was largely mediated via conservative ideology. A secondary analysis of a U.S. data set confirmed a predictive effect of poor abstract-reasoning skills on antihomosexual prejudice, a relation partially mediated by both authoritarianism and low levels of intergroup contact. All analyses controlled for education and socioeconomic status.[/QUOTE] Then the Daily Mail says: [QUOTE]Right-wingers tend to be less intelligent than left-wingers, and people with low childhood intelligence tend to grow up to have racist and anti-gay views, says a controversial new study. Conservative politics work almost as a 'gateway' into prejudice against others, say the Canadian academics. The paper analysed large UK studies which compared childhood intelligence with political views in adulthood across more than 15,000 people. The authors claim that people with low intelligence gravitate towards right-wing views because they make them feel safe. Crucially, people's educational level is not what determines whether they are racist or not - it's innate intelligence, according to the academics. Social status also appears to play no part.[/QUOTE] In terms of spin, this is fucking majestic. I mean, look at how they whirled this baby up: [B]Study:[/B] low initial cognitive capabilities can be a predictor of later prejudicial attitudes, and the mechanism involves right-wing ideologies. [B]Daily Mail:[/B] that means conservatives tend to be less intelligent, since their team gets all the thick kids. [B]Actuality:[/B] the study doesn't and cannot imply that, since it doesn't involve data representing an entire political ideology or group of ideologies. [B]Study:[/B] "research has revealed that individuals who more strongly endorse social conservatism have greater cognitive rigidity, less cognitive flexibility, and lower integrative complexity", thus "individuals with lower cognitive abilities may gravitate toward more socially conservative right-wing ideologies that maintain the status quo and provide psychological stability and a sense of order". [B]Daily Mail:[/B] "people with low intelligence gravitate towards right-wing views because they make them feel safe". [B]Actuality:[/B] that's just blatantly wrong, but it's creative- by implying the study finds all righties are thick, and then implying thick righties are afraid of an unspecified not-right boogieman, they just justified a whole swath of persecution complexes. [B]Study:[/B] right-wing ideologies can serve as a [URL="http://pss.sagepub.com/content/early/2012/01/04/0956797611421206/F1.expansion.html"]stepping stone to prejudice[/URL] through a [URL="http://pss.sagepub.com/content/early/2012/01/04/0956797611421206/F2.large.jpg"]complex mechanism (easier to visualize than to read).[/URL] Jumping straight to prejudice against a group is difficult, even for the unintelligent, but jumping to right-wing ideologies is easy, and from there, it's easy to jump to prejudice. This is because of the aforementioned cognitive stiffness, and the fact that the less cognitively capable "are less trusting of other people, less sensitive to interpersonal cues, and less accurate in deciphering other people’s behaviors and intentions", reducing their likelihood to challenge these beliefs once they've latched onto right wing ideologies (which "are characterized by resistance to change and the promotion of intergroup inequalities"). [B]Daily Mail:[/B] conservatism is a slippery slope to hatred. [B]Actuality:[/B] everyone covering this story has massively oversimplified it, but the Daily Mail deserves props for mentioning literally [I]nothing[/I] from the meat of the study. [B]Study:[/B] "all predictive effects were independent of socioeconomic status and education", which makes sense, because the study was looking at a correlation between g factor and prejudices. [B]Daily Mail:[/B] "people's educational level is not what determines whether they are racist or not - it's innate intelligence, according to the academics". [B]Actuality:[/B] this study cannot and did not touch on what g factor is and whether or not it can be innate- which is good, since that conversation is a goddamn nightmare, involving anatomy of the brain, statistical abstractions, empirical and semi-empirical proofs, and eventually turns into fucking philosophy. It did not imply g factor is [I]innate,[/I] or vice versa, since that's completely irrelevant to the study. 10 points to the Daily Mail for sticking something idiots will believe into an article that's such a loaded concept it'd be almost impossible to correct them on. [B]Study:[/B] this is the latest in a long line of research done on the subject since the 50s, it's just another look at the mechanism responsible. [B]Daily Mail:[/B] makes no mention of anything else, implying this is some new idea with no previous history or academic support, and is thus perfectly okay to dismiss with no consideration whatsoever because it's just liberals hating on you. [B]Actuality:[/B] lies by omission, gotta love 'em. They're not hating on their readers, they're implying, once again, that science is a process of condescending lefty eggheads telling the poor working man he's stupid for not liking his paki neighbors. This is [B]stellar[/B] bullshit. Fox couldn't pull off anything this warped if they tried.
[QUOTE=Drsalvador;34574215]Where's that "The Nation Says" image when you need it?[/QUOTE] dead with all the other stupid meme garbage that shits up this section
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[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;34579707] This is [B]stellar[/B] bullshit. Fox couldn't pull off anything this warped if they tried.[/QUOTE] you have to remember that the Mail's been stirring shit up now for over 130 years. Fox have nowhere near the pedigree of muckraking that the mighty institution of the tabloid press has.
And for those of you who didn't pick up the Grauniad on your tube ride to work, [URL="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/05/daily-mail-calls-rightwingers-stupid"]here's Brooker's article on it[/URL].
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