post your political opinions that you never have the opportunity to talk about in SH
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Tell us your manifesto, facepunch. Convince me why dolphins should be legal persons
homosexuals are gay
Elections should be samurai swords to the death. Votes are bets. It would stimulate the economy and make it less likely for the same people to hold office for a long time.
[QUOTE]post your political opinions that you never have the opportunity to talk about in SH[/QUOTE]
This basically serves the exact same purpose as the unpopular opinions thread just with a more strict subject.
Having opinions is a waste of time
That's the only opinion I have
[QUOTE=Kartoffel;49236931]Elections should be samurai swords to the death. Votes are bets. It would stimulate the economy and make it less likely for the same people to hold office for a long time.[/QUOTE]
I approve of the idea, but limiting it to samurai swords seems unnecessary. Surely a wider range of melee weaponry would be more interesting.
[QUOTE=Lium;49237172]I approve of the idea, but limiting it to samurai swords seems unnecessary. Surely a wider range of melee weaponry would be more interesting.[/QUOTE]
You are absolutely right. All melee weapons, then.
merkel is a big dumby
I can't read.
[QUOTE=Alice3173;49237037]This basically serves the exact same purpose as the unpopular opinions thread just with a more strict subject.[/QUOTE]
popular opinions is where you cry to when all the SH posters are mean to you
I guess here is for when you never posted in the first place?
I am an observing member of the neo-nazi group " Freiheitliche Deutsche ArbeiterPartei"
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I'm the one in the white behind our flag
I'm pro gun control but I never mention it on SH because my post will achieve nothing besides maybe starting a pointless debate that's also going on on 3 other threads.
The ideal form of government would be a dictatorship by somebody who knows what the fuck they are doing but not somebody who would abuse their power.
[QUOTE=Valiantttt;49243613]The ideal form of government would be a dictatorship by somebody who knows what the fuck they are doing but not somebody who would abuse their power.[/QUOTE]
except when he/she dies tho
[QUOTE=Valiantttt;49243613]The ideal form of government would be a dictatorship by somebody who knows what the fuck they are doing but not somebody who would abuse their power.[/QUOTE]
Benevolent dictatorship
Josip tito had something similar deal going on till he died and yugoslavia turned into darkrp
Adolf Hitler was a pretty terrible person, and I wish it were possible to make honest comparisons to things he said/ his party did without looking like an idiot.
Imo everywhere should have compulsory voting so they can join the cool kids club with Australia and South America
Politicians are paid way too fucking much.
They should be making as much as school teachers, with a livable pension once they retire.
There's too much incentive to get into politics for the money/power rather than because someones feels like they can make a positive difference for their country.
[QUOTE=darcy010;49244197]Politicians are paid way too fucking much.
They should be making as much as school teachers, with a livable pension once they retire.
There's too much incentive to get into politics for the money/power rather than because someones feels like they can make a positive difference for their country.[/QUOTE]
I agree but I'll present the rather valid opposing arguement as a devils avacado.
Under paid politicians will seek to get more money and use their power to get that money, at the expense of everyone else.
Socialism looks perfect on paper but that's about it
[QUOTE=darcy010;49244197]Politicians are paid way too fucking much.
They should be making as much as school teachers, with a livable pension once they retire.
There's too much incentive to get into politics for the money/power rather than because someones feels like they can make a positive difference for their country.[/QUOTE]
1: A lot of MPs are people who have postgrad degrees and decades of experience in business or public administration or wherever else. People, in other words, who know their shit, and who would be paid handsomely for working in the private sector. If MPs were not offered a competitive salary, you would probably have a serious 'brain drain' in elected positions, as those people would be somewhat less-inclined to enter politics.
2: Lower salaries would make MPs more susceptible to accepting bribes, and returning favours to the bribers instead of listening to their electorate.
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[QUOTE=RedBaronFlyer;49244382]Socialism looks perfect on paper but that's about it[/QUOTE]
Most -isms look perfect on paper, that's why they can become popular. None of them are perfect, but in terms of economics, the market economy has had the least gone wrong.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;49244390]1: A lot of MPs are people who have postgrad degrees and decades of experience in business or public administration or wherever else. People, in other words, who know their shit, and who would be paid handsomely for working in the private sector. If MPs were not offered a competitive salary, you would probably have a serious 'brain drain' in elected positions, as those people would be somewhat less-inclined to enter politics.
2: Lower salaries would make MPs more susceptible to accepting bribes, and returning favours to the bribers instead of listening to their electorate.
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Most -isms look perfect on paper, that's why they can become popular. None of them are perfect, but in terms of economics, the market economy has had the least gone wrong.[/QUOTE]
To be fair, capitalism had hundreds of years of a headstart and plenty of time to improve itself and become more humane in a period where nobody cared as much about how many people got executed. The only way a socialist society could genuinely work would be if it were gradual, as European countries have been trying for decades. Unfortunately, recent developments are looking to reverse that.
[QUOTE=darcy010;49244197]Politicians are paid way too fucking much.
They should be making as much as school teachers, with a livable pension once they retire.
There's too much incentive to get into politics for the money/power rather than because someones feels like they can make a positive difference for their country.[/QUOTE]
Imo the salary and pensions should be high, but tied somewhat to the average way, as in, a proportion (like 4x the average wage, could be any though as long as its a decently high number). Also, most types of political advertising should be illegal and campaign funds should be publicly allotted. That way they don't have to look to turn to private companies. Rather than being able to run TV ads and place billboards all over the damn place they'd only have forms of communication such as TV debates.
The way I see it, generously taking care of politicians can help reduce corruption because the need is reduced. I don't even know if most teacher's salaries would really cover the cost of living in DC with money to spare.
Absolute Trotskyist
Society should work towards maximizing mental and emotional health and be rid of things that causes mental and emotional illness.
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;49244477]To be fair, capitalism had hundreds of years of a headstart and plenty of time to improve itself and become more humane in a period where nobody cared as much about how many people got executed. The only way a socialist society could genuinely work would be if it were gradual, as European countries have been trying for decades. Unfortunately, recent developments are looking to reverse that.[/QUOTE]
'Capitalism' (I don't like using the word as it is a derogatory term used by its detractors) has pretty much been around for as long as other contemporary philosophies, like socialism, have been. So I wouldn't really say it had the advantage of a 'head start', although it had the advantage of being a relative of mercantilism, which meant it was a natural development for the western world.
I think it's incorrect to say European countries have been trying to become socialist for decades, because they haven't. They have gradually transformed into welfare states with mixed economies, but I don't think any European country, not even Russia, would ever consider significant public ownership of the means of production; socialism.
[QUOTE=Valiantttt;49243613]The ideal form of government would be a dictatorship by somebody who knows what the fuck they are doing but not somebody who would abuse their power.[/QUOTE]
Plato had the same idea, it was the figure of the philosopher king. You see, according to him, there were 3 functions to the soul, the rational, the irascible and the concupiscible. Depending of the domminant function, a person would have a type of role in society according to the ideal city of Plato.
If the person was dominated by the concupiscible part, it would have craving for material possesion, would only pursue the minimal grade of education, was allowed to have a wife and material possesion and was limited to the work of a craftsman.
If he was dominated by the irascible part, they would be more "noble" in the sense that they would have little to no desire, and was not allowed to have possesions or family, since it would distract him from his work, which had to be guard or soldier in case of war, and bureocrat if it were a time of peace. They also pursued longer education and their gift was considered to be courage.
Lastly, those who had a dominative rational part, were allowed to study further, 20 years more I believe, and they were also not allowed to have family or possesions, since they could only focus on their role (and even if they could have, the person had so much self control that he would not have bothered to have them), the most important of all, being the leader. The most wise among the students who had the dominant part of rationality, was chosen to be the philosopher king of the polis. However, so that he would not get drunk on power, another was chosen every couple years. The gift of this people was considered to be wisdom.
Unfortunately, Plato tried this on 2 separate occasions in 2 different polis, and both times it failed.
[QUOTE=Valiantttt;49243613]The ideal form of government would be a dictatorship by somebody who knows what the fuck they are doing but not somebody who would abuse their power.[/QUOTE]
The best form would be no government. Most effective and efficient.
The cause and existence of a government is idiots and crazy people.
Being a moderate means everyone hates you so give up
[QUOTE=JohhnyCarson;49245042]The best form would be no government. Most effective and efficient.
The cause and existence of a government is idiots and crazy people.[/QUOTE]
It is the socially optimal solution but the threat of other people means we need to settle for a nash equilibrium, not the best solution for anyone but because we can't trust each other not to screw each other over we need an organised state to protect us in the case that someone else makes a state.
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