• Kinect hacked to perform Surgery
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[URL]http://gizmodo.com/5736680/kinect-hacked-to-perform-surgery[/URL] [quote]We've seen the Xbox 360 Kinect control robots before, but never robots with tasks this important. A group of graduate engineering students at the University of Washington are using Microsoft's device to guide the actions of surgical robots. Scientists and engineers have been working for years to integrate gaming technology into the human-controlled robots that are being used increasingly to perform delicate operations too small for human hands. The problem with surgical robots is that while they allow for extreme precision, there is no tactile sensation for the doctor operating the tiny robotic arms. If a scalpel brushes against an exposed vein, for instance, the robot operator does not feel the subtle bump.[INDENT] [quote]"For robotics-assisted surgeries, the surgeon has no sense of touch right now," said Howard Chizeck, UW professor of electrical engineering. "What we're doing is using that sense of touch to give information to the surgeon, like ‘You don't want to go here.'"[/quote] [/INDENT]Engineers have been working to integrate gaming's [URL="http://kotaku.com/5651427/force-feedback-helps-doctors-poke-patients-with-robots"]force feedback technology[/URL] into the robots, translating those tiny bumps into force felt on the operator's end. The University of Washington engineering students have an even better idea. Electrical engineering graduate student Fredrik Ryden has developed software that will allow Microsoft's Kinect to create three dimensional maps of a patient's body. In order for force feedback technology to work properly, it needs some sort of frame of reference to tell it when the robot is brushing against a bone or in danger of nicking a patient's pancreas. Originally the group planned to us CT scans to provide the data, but soon the group got the idea to use a depth camera to provide a more precise picture by measuring infrared light reflected off of the surface. In December they decided to use Microsoft's Kinect, for obvious reasons.[INDENT] [quote]"It's really good for demonstration because it's so low-cost, and because it's really accessible," Ryden, who designed the system during one weekend, said. "You already have drivers, and you can just go in there and grab the data. It's really easy to do fast prototyping because Microsoft's already built everything."[/quote] [/INDENT]The team says that without Kinect the project would have cost approximately $50,000. Not only does the Kinect data allow for precision force feedback in robot surgeons, the operators can define entire regions of the operating area off limits, effectively placing a virtual force field around regions that the robot's tools can't pass. There are still some hurdles to overcome. The team needs to integrate the technology with a robotics package, increase the video resolution, and scale down the sensors to a size appropriate for surgical use. Still, it's a promising start for a potentially life-saving technology built from a device meant to make us act silly in front of our television set.[/quote]
I could see it being a good proof of concept or demo.
microsoft could have made a killing from licensing the drivers
Let's hope this won't happen in the middle of the surgery [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXN7vLPsDSM&feature=related[/media]
I wouldn't trust my guts to MS
Microsoft Kinect: It can't do gaming, but it damn well can do everything else.
[QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;27519647]Microsoft Kinect: It can't do gaming, but it damn well can do everything else.[/QUOTE] Best part about it my opinion :v:
Kinect has no games :colbert:
What if it accident stabs the surgery equipment into the humans heart :colbert: who do we sue ? the hospital or microsoft :colbert:
So the docs cat comes in and the patient looks like Micheal Jackson after a tiger mauling.
[QUOTE=Neddy;27519926]What if it accident stabs the surgery equipment into the humans heart :colbert: who do we sue ? the hospital or microsoft :colbert:[/QUOTE] This is true, if the machine fucks up, it's debatable. But since it's hacked, then Microsoft could reject all responsibility.
Kinect will get as much attention this year for things like this like the Ipad got attention for things last year I bet.
You'd have as much of a chance of the doctor accidently stabbing you as the robot.
So Kinect is more useful for stuff not related to Xbox than for anything to do with Xbox?
Why not use a normal game controller. Then if the blade feels a certain amount of pressure the controller vibrates. But when your in the right area and don't need the vibration as it could make you a little edgy with the controls you could just turn it off. Seems a lot safer than using a kinect.
Kinect is a shit game controller
Microsoft should have kept Kinect out of gaming and licensed it to people like this. Gaming isn't ready for it.
thats cool
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWbLOFGSEDo[/media] Imagine this but with surgery
Blue Screen must shutdown this operation...
How are they going to implement the force feedback? Vibrating pads on the finger tips of the surgeons? Otherwise, the doctors have no way of knowing if they've gone too far...
their first prototype before using kinect [img]http://www.busygamer.com/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/operation-game.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Oneperson;27535261]How are they going to implement the force feedback? Vibrating pads on the finger tips of the surgeons? Otherwise, the doctors have no way of knowing if they've gone too far...[/QUOTE] when they can see inside the left ventricle when performing lung surgery is a way of knowing if they've gone too far but you're right
I can only imagine the discussion in Microsoft: "We have the potential for saving hundreds of lives with our technology that we spent millions to develop... this technology has near infinite applications. What should we use it for?" "LET'S MAKE VIDEO GAMES FOR MIDDLE AGED WOMEN!"
It really makes you appreciate that this kind of technology only costs $150 and is available to anyone. such is life in the future
Microsoft will catch on though, like everything else good, and make a profit off it.
[QUOTE=Neddy;27519926]What if it accident stabs the surgery equipment into the humans heart :colbert: who do we sue ? the hospital or microsoft :colbert:[/QUOTE] -Microsoft said "this thing is for gaming" -Use this thing to cut people instead, kill someone in result -Bad, bad Microsoft! :downs:
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