• German courts rule that ISPs shouldn't have to block websites.
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[quote]If we learned anything this week, it was that European courts are coming down increasingly hard on websites that facilitate the sharing of illegal ‘pirated’ content. But for those that believe in an open, uncensored Internet, news that a German court has ruled against ordering Internet service providers (ISPs) to block such websites will be welcomed. Earlier this week, we reported that Finnish ISP Elisa had been told to block access to Swedish website The Pirate Bay, as well as other sites known for illegal file-sharing, constituting part of an ongoing court case initiated by the Copyright Information and Anti-Piracy Centre (CIAPC) and Finland’s branch of music industry group IFPI. This was swiftly followed by news that two Dutch ISPs had also been ordered to block access to The Pirate Bay, with both cases echoing similar action in the UK, with BT and Sky both recently ordered to block access to Newzbin 2, a site used to disseminate links to copyright-infringing content. As Der Spiegel reports [in German], Germany is bucking this trend, with a court in Cologne ruling that German telecommunications company Deutsche Telekom should continue to allow access to Internet betting sites, even if they are illegal in Germany. Deutsche Telekom has been fighting against the proposed ban, and the court’s decision was preceded by a similar ruling back in December, at the Administrative Court of Düsseldorf. The judge in that case had arrived at a similar verdict with regards to Vodafone. A spokeswoman for the Administrative Court of Düsseldorf said on Thursday that Vodafone and (Deutsche) Telekom aren’t responsible for the content of Web pages, noting that they are only service providers. German regulation stipulates that most sports betting can only be done through state-controlled companies, which many have argued violates European legislation. The German Interstate Treaty which bans online gambling – except for horse racing – came into effect on January 1, 2008. With the recent UK ISP ruling seemingly kick-starting an avalanche of similar court orders, as we’ve seen this week in the Netherlands and Finland, the announcement from German courts is certainly refreshing. However, as TechDirt notes, it also helps to highlight the contradictory messages being broadcast across the European Union[/quote] [url=http://thenextweb.com/eu/2012/01/14/german-courts-are-bucking-the-trend-ruling-that-isps-shouldnt-block-illegal-websites/?awesm=tnw.to_1CoMJ]Source[/url] Wouldn't expect that from Germany, but fuck yeah Germany!
You're OK Germany, you're OK.
brb, packing my bags and learning German. Need some boxes for my stuff
[QUOTE=Don Knotts;34221537]brb, packing my bags and learning German.[/QUOTE] I hope you like censored games?
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34221642]I hope you like censored games?[/QUOTE] Because it's not possible to get them uncensored.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34221642]I hope you like censored games?[/QUOTE] [img]http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/0/0b/Duck_Gib.png[/img] True. :v:
[QUOTE=Firewarrior;34221666]Because it's not possible to get them uncensored.[/QUOTE]Because it's worth moving to germany because of a court ruling that has happened not only in germany.
Neat. Now let's push for this to be adopted EU-wide and it'll be a small victory for the internet
That's cool. Guess being german isn't that bad after all. If only the games were uncensored.
I hope this works as an example.
Now if only I didn't have to launch Valve's stuff through a .bat that takes care of the censoring problems. :v: But yeah, I didn't expect this to be honest. Especially after Zensursula.
Well Censoring in Germany starts to step back... Gears of War 3 for example was released uncensored here. The USK (guys responsible for censoring and blacklisting media in germany) even stated that looking back, today they would NOT censor stuff they did back then... so things get better here considering censoring in Media.
Like a boss.
I kinda find it funny how the netherlands which were rather popular for the internet freedom get fucked over and we don't :v:
A little faith has been restored. [editline]15th January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Don Knotts;34221537]brb, packing my bags and learning German. Need some boxes for my stuff[/QUOTE] Sure you can live here at my place.
This is like the last country I'd expect to make this call considering their brutal censorship laws.
[QUOTE=Motherfuckers;34222675]This is like the last country I'd expect to make this call considering their brutal censorship laws.[/QUOTE] Actually we have one of the least censored Internet. Less censored than that of Australia, the UK and many other countries.
[QUOTE=Motherfuckers;34222675]This is like the last country I'd expect to make this call considering their brutal censorship laws.[/QUOTE] you're saying that like we have nazi-like censorship
The "brutal censorship laws" are probably a misconception sparked by the censorship of a small number of AAA Game titles. Reality is, we have nude images on the front pages of our newpapers.
[QUOTE=Firewarrior;34223350]Actually we have one of the least censored Internet. Less censored than that of Australia, the UK and many other countries.[/QUOTE]How is UK internet censored. Asking because I don't know and would like to know more.
[QUOTE=assistbyheal;34223395]you're saying that like we have nazi-like censorship[/QUOTE] no, you guys just censor images of nazi's.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34223677]How is UK internet censored. Asking because I don't know and would like to know more.[/QUOTE] I don't see much in the way of censoring here. Though when I first got my computer it came with an annoying child filter I'm still trying to remove completely.
Not bad, Germany. Not bad.
Now declare war to BREIN and enslave them. So we get the same policies.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;34223704]no, you guys just censor images of nazi's.[/QUOTE] No we don't, unless it's for propaganda or something. So running around with a Swastika on your shirt is a crime, but having it in a text about nazis or whatever is not
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34223677]How is UK internet censored. Asking because I don't know and would like to know more.[/QUOTE] You can read everything about it here: [url]http://www.freedomhouse.org/images/File/FotN/FOTN2011.pdf[/url] It's still listed as "Free", but has some more censorship to it.
It's funny because last time I was in Germany, my parents ISP was blocking Demonoid :v:
[QUOTE=DeanWinchester;34223896]It's funny because last time I was in Germany, my parents ISP was blocking Demonoid :v:[/QUOTE] According to a post in another forum it was Demonoid blocking several big ISPs.
[QUOTE=MaGGiFiXXX;34222217]Well Censoring in Germany starts to step back... Gears of War 3 for example was released uncensored here. The USK (guys responsible for censoring and blacklisting media in germany) even stated that looking back, today they would NOT censor stuff they did back then... so things get better here considering censoring in Media.[/QUOTE] Actually, the USK only gives the ratings. when a game gets a rating it can't be indexed anymore by the BPJM. Usk isn't the problem, the BPJM is.
well this is good but there is still the little issue of censoring violence.
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