• Netflix Admits to Throttling for AT&T & Verizon Data Users
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[URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2016/03/24/netflixs-stunning-admission-it-throttles-video-speeds-for-some-customers/?postshare=5141458947484901&tid=ss_fb"]SOURCE[/URL] [quote=Washington Post Article]Netflix has long presented itself as a champion of unfettered access to Internet content. But those claims are ringing a little hollow after the company admitted Thursday that it deliberately slows down its streams for customers watching on the cellular networks of AT&T and Verizon.[/quote] They've been doing this for five years now, and are trying to justify it by saying that they're just trying to prevent their customers from blowing over their monthly data caps. They don't do this for T-Mobile because they're in agreement that Netflix streaming doesn't count towards data caps. Still absolutely shitty to just do it for them, rather than offer an option within the app.
Not like you would notice the difference on the average screen size. Most people will bitch about everything. Plus, Verizon's network already faces pretty bad congestion in dense metropolitan areas. Imagine the extra strain from constant HD streaming.
[url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1511891[/url] Sorry bro, you got Beeb'd.
[QUOTE=pentium;50009855][url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1511891[/url] Sorry bro, you got Beeb'd.[/QUOTE] Different section; doesn't matter. [editline]26th March 2016[/editline] Also, this seems a lot less like the denial-of-access like we see with most of the restrictive ISPs and more about negligibly reducing the quality of stream for select mobile carriers to prevent reaching the data cap. Sprint and T-Mobile are exempt from this rule— and only because they already have a preexisting deal where Netflix would not count on your data threshold. So this article is not much of a big deal.
This explains the 15 minutes from loading the netflix app to finding the show i want. and the extra 5 minutes stuck at 7% and then having it timeout on me. Why do I even pay for this?
[QUOTE=ADSmaster724;50009895]This explains the 15 minutes from loading the netflix app to finding the show i want. and the extra 5 minutes stuck at 7% and then having it timeout on me. Why do I even pay for this?[/QUOTE] I've never had that happen to me. This only affected stream quality itself.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;50009886]Different section; doesn't matter. [editline]26th March 2016[/editline] Also, this seems a lot less like the denial-of-access like we see with most of the restrictive ISPs and more about negligibly reducing the quality of stream for select mobile carriers to prevent reaching the data cap. Sprint and T-Mobile are exempt from this rule— and only because they already have a preexisting deal where Netflix would not count on your data threshold. So this article is not much of a big deal.[/QUOTE] In all fairness ITTN and SH should be treated as the same. Last week someone literally copied an article from ITTN to SH, PCGamesN article and all.
[QUOTE=redBadger;50009994]In all fairness ITTN and SH should be treated as the same. Last week someone literally copied an article from ITTN to SH, PCGamesN article and all.[/QUOTE] The News Node is 95% Video Game news. The other 5 percent is tech-related. Sensationalist Headlines is not video game news. It is general news.
And this, folks, is why net neutrality FUCKING MATTERS. And also why bandwidth caps are a shit way of managing traffic these days. It's [I]unsustainable[/I] unless you want to continue to deliver 2008-era service for the next couple decades while the rest of the world switches over to fiber everywhere.
Netflix have already announced they're adding an option to turn this off [url]https://media.netflix.com/en/company-blog/helping-netflix-members-get-more-from-their-mobile-data-plans[/url]
[QUOTE=ghost901;50009920]I've never had that happen to me. This only affected stream quality itself.[/QUOTE] It really only happens if Ive already watched it for a while. Id stop using it for the day, and hope it works the next. It usually gets stuck like that for a few days.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;50010039]And this, folks, is why net neutrality FUCKING MATTERS. And also why bandwidth caps are a shit way of managing traffic these days. It's [I]unsustainable[/I] unless you want to continue to deliver 2008-era service for the next couple decades while the rest of the world switches over to fiber everywhere.[/QUOTE]What does fiber have anything to do with this? Most of AT&T's and Verizon's towers are already fiber fed.
[QUOTE=ghost901;50010119]What does fiber have anything to do with this? Most of AT&T's and Verizon's towers are already fiber fed.[/QUOTE] Kinda missed that it was mobile data and not ground ISP data being discussed, oops. "T-Mobile" should've been a clue I guess. Tower coverage is a little more tricky to manage than expanding pole networks because of the limited spectrum ranges available, putting a hard limit on how many towers can operate in one area without interference. The long-term solution's a little less straightforward with mobile. But, still, this is where net neutrality matters.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;50010156]Kinda missed that it was mobile data and not ground ISP data being discussed, oops. "T-Mobile" should've been a clue I guess. Tower coverage is a little more tricky to manage than expanding pole networks because of the limited spectrum ranges available, putting a hard limit on how many towers can operate in one area without interference. The long-term solution's a little less straightforward with mobile. But, still, this is where net neutrality matters.[/QUOTE]I'm a bit more worried about at&t and Verizon hogging all the lower frequencies at the spectrum auction. Leaving the providers after them with just scraps.
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