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[QUOTE]Lesleigh Coyer, 25, of Saginaw, Mich., lies down in front of the grave of her brother, Ryan Coyer, who served with the Army in both Iraq and Afghanistan, at Arlington National Cemetery in Virginia on March 11, 2013. Coyer died of complications from an injury sustained in Afghanistan.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][I]Arlington National Cemetery has recently begun enforcing a policy that forbids the placing of mementos on graves, notably in Section 60, which contains graves of those killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. The cleanup has outraged the families of many of those buried there. Reuters photographer Kevin Lamarque documented some of these mementos in a photo story. He says some of the scenes brought tears to his eyes.[/I]
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That's a buncha fuckin' bullshit. That's like a tradition that everyone does.
So they think they can pass a bill that will outlaw a respectable tradition?
Good luck with that one.
[QUOTE=IceWarrior98;42470602]So they think they can pass a bill that will outlaw a respectable tradition?
Good luck with that one.[/QUOTE]
erm it was already a rule, they just started enforcing it
That shit would not have even been brought into question in a Jewish cemetery to not lay a stone when you visit a cemetery is like saying fuck you to that person if you're Jewish.
[QUOTE=Medevila;42470979]Rules are rules, it's less this ^, more this V
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lol i thought that was my mouse
This is truly sad...
The local grave at my town actually started doing this, and even that is very disrespectful to the families and I even know how it feels for my families graves...
uniformed in life, uniformed in death
[QUOTE=Medevila;42471050]National cemetery =/= local graveyard
there's a precedent for disallowing flamboyant decorations at Arlington[/QUOTE]
Who cares, if I want my dead homeboy to have random shit like rocks and bullet casings then you can bet my dead homeboy is gonna get rocks and bullet casings. Dead men need things too guys.
[QUOTE=businessPawn;42470980]That shit would not have even been brought into question in a Jewish cemetery to not lay a stone when you visit a cemetery is like saying fuck you to that person if you're Jewish.[/QUOTE]
It's not really saying "fuck you", it's more of a sign of respect and to signify that you've been there and are still thinking of them. Sort of like how Christians put flowers on graves, Jews put stones.
I can see how some might find others' decorations to be disrespectful or tasteless; requiring that no one place mementos might be the best compromise the cemetery can offer.
Another argument is that being buried in a military cemetery is a privilege and that ending up next to other fallen soldiers is best sanctified by all the graves being equal in size and appearance.
I'm not familiar with the system, but I imagine families have the option of burying their loved ones in regular cemeteries where more ornate tombstones and decorations would be welcome.
I don't know why anyone would want to be buried in Arlington other than some high profile person. It was pretty cool to see the place but its usually far away from family and everything has to adhere to a strict code.
[QUOTE=Saxon;42472051]I don't know why anyone would want to be buried in Arlington other than some high profile person. It was pretty cool to see the place but its usually far away from family and everything has to adhere to a strict code.[/QUOTE]
Some people would rather be buried beside their brothers and comrades than by a stranger.
[QUOTE=ChristopherB;42472039]I can see how some might find others' decorations to be disrespectful or tasteless; requiring that no one place mementos might be the best compromise the cemetery can offer.
Another argument is that being buried in a military cemetery is a privilege and that ending up next to other fallen soldiers is best sanctified by all the graves being equal in size and appearance.
I'm not familiar with the system, but I imagine families have the option of burying their loved ones in regular cemeteries where more ornate tombstones and decorations would be welcome.[/QUOTE]
I agree on being buried in a military cemetery should make everything uniformal, leaving something, sure, but nothing flamboyant.
Carry on the well presented nature through to the grave.
The main reason I see this might be a problem is, let's be real here, SOME people don't have boundaries.
One person may lay a tasteful bunch of flowers, while someone else leaves an open bottle of beer for his homie. In a cemetery filled with dead homies, that shit may fly. But in a nationally known place like this there have to be limits. That's where the problem starts, because now people are complaining about unfair "Why can't I leave my shit here" type of bias.
So you fix it by not letting anyone leave anything there.
[QUOTE=The-Spy;42471036]This is truly sad...
The local grave at my town actually started doing this, and even that is very disrespectful to the families and I even know how it feels for my families graves...[/QUOTE]
Is it a military graveyard? I see no reason for this to be done with civilian graves.
I thought they were literally removing graves
"YOU ONLY MOVED THE HEADSTONES!?"
[QUOTE=businessPawn;42470980]That shit would not have even been brought into question in a Jewish cemetery to not lay a stone when you visit a cemetery is like saying fuck you to that person if you're Jewish.[/QUOTE]
what a retarded thing to think
[QUOTE=Xmeagol;42472410]what a retarded thing to think[/QUOTE]
'Your traditions are foreign to me, therefore they are stupid.'
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