Mall Santa loses job for telling girl Hillary Clinton on naughty list
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[quote]A shopping mall Santa Claus in Florida is out of a job for telling a 10-year-old girl that Hillary Clinton was on his "naughty list."
The mom told mall management she brought two of her children to see Santa Tuesday night, the station reported. As her daughter was sitting in Santa’s lap, he told her she was on his “nice list” and then asked her if she knew who was on his “naughty list.”
The mother said when her daughter asked who, Santa said "Hillary Clinton" and laughed.
The station reported that the woman wrote about the encounter in a Facebook post, which noted that Clinton was the only person on his naughty list. The woman also wrote that her daughter supported Clinton in the presidential election, as she did.
A spokesman for Santa’s employer in Colorado, Noerr Programs, told the station that the Santa in question, who was not named, thought it was a joke but when the mother called to complain, he was replaced. Spokesman Charlie Russell said Noerr sent the woman an apology.
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[url]http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/11/18/mall-santa-loses-job-for-telling-girl-hillary-clinton-on-naughty-list.html[/url]
I think that's a little excessive.
[QUOTE]The woman also wrote that her daughter supported Clinton in the presidential election, as she did.[/QUOTE]
Gee, I wonder why...
That's an abysmally stupid reason to get fired for anything. It was a joke, damn.
Deserved, keep politics out of santa business.
People need to calm the fuck down. Like, it doesn't take anything any more to provoke anything political.
[QUOTE=MrBacon;51399584]Deserved, keep politics out of santa business.[/QUOTE]
Not sure if sacking him was necessary though, a stern talking to would've been enough. Besides, teaching kids to be offended at everything and giving them expectations of harsh consequences isn't exactly a great idea.
[QUOTE=MrBacon;51399584]Deserved, keep politics out of santa business.[/QUOTE]
I dunno, he doesn't need to be fired over it. reprimanded, yea, but not fired. especially since he wasn't going on about how she should be locked up in jail for treason, etc, it was more of an off-handed remark.
Last I checked people playing Santa just had to sit there, let some kid sit on your lap, ask them if they were good this year and what they wanted for Christmas, rinse and repeat. Nowhere in that list is "tell every kid about your political opinions for no apparent reason".
[quote]The woman also wrote that her daughter supported Clinton in the presidential election, as she did.[/quote]
how/why is a ten year old with little to no understanding of the adult world supporting someone in a presidential election
Anyway yeah, he should've just gotten a stern talking to. Sucks to get sacked for a stupid joke, especially around the Holiday season.
Pretty sure non-disclosure forms for such jobs usually includes keeping politics out of the job.
I know I wouldn't want him working there anymore
[QUOTE=TacticalBacon;51399640]Last I checked people playing Santa just had to sit there, let some kid sit on your lap, ask them if they were good this year and what they wanted for Christmas, rinse and repeat. Nowhere in that list is "[B]tell every kid about your political opinions for no apparent reason".[/B][/QUOTE]
I think they call those "jokes", everyone makes them.
Someone might have deleted that in the list :smug:
[QUOTE=SenhorCreeper;51399734]I think they call those "jokes", everyone makes them.
Someone might have deleted that in the list :smug:[/QUOTE]
Yeah sex jokes are jokes too that doesn't mean Saint Nick ought to be cracking funnies about his dick size to 5 y/os.
Bottom line is that parents don't want people sticking political shit in their trip to the mall santa and if the customers don't want it then it's entirely reasonable for the mall not to put up with it.
[QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;51399743]Yeah sex jokes are jokes too that doesn't mean Saint Nick ought to be cracking funnies about his dick size to 5 y/os.
Bottom line is that parents don't want people sticking political shit in their trip to the mall santa and if the customers don't want it then it's entirely reasonable for the mall not to put up with it.[/QUOTE]
I don't think anyone is arguing against that; rather, it was a bit extreme to fire him over a single complaint about a single joke that ultimately wasn't very harmful. Certainly not as bad as a joke like you mentioned :v:
[QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;51399743]Yeah sex jokes are jokes too that doesn't mean Saint Nick ought to be cracking funnies about his dick size to 5 y/os.[/QUOTE]
What kind of fucking bizarre comparison is that :v:. Are you seriously comparing sex jokes told to little kids to "hillary is in my naughty list"?
[QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;51399743]Yeah sex jokes are jokes too that doesn't mean Saint Nick ought to be cracking funnies about his dick size to 5 y/os.
[B]Bottom line is that parents don't want people sticking political shit in their trip to the mall santa and if the customers don't want it then it's entirely reasonable for the mall not to put up with it.[/B][/QUOTE]
Considering they just managed to get a guy fired over such a tiny thing, I don't think they were really sick of political shit. Even more considering they decided that it would be important to mention the fact that the daughter supported Hillary.
[QUOTE=SenhorCreeper;51399734]I think they call those "jokes", everyone makes them.
Someone might have deleted that in the list :smug:[/QUOTE]
If it was intended as a joke rather than a serious statement, it's still based on his political opinions either way and has nothing to do with being Santa.
[editline]20th November 2016[/editline]
This mum is an idiot too tho. Her daughter probably only "supported Hillary" because she told her to, and that should be irrelevant to the situation anyway.
Specifically bringing it up makes you look like someone bitching at people having different beliefs to you more than someone annoyed with politics being brought into a place they don't belong at all.
I bet she was literally shaking after that.
[QUOTE=TacticalBacon;51399789]If it was intended as a joke rather than a serious statement, it's still based on his political opinions either way and has nothing to do with being Santa.[/QUOTE]
I don't think you can get someone's political opinion through jokes, just like how I can say Trump looks like a big orange, try to guess my "political opinion" here
Why would a kid old enough to support someone running for president be sitting on Santa's lap and shit?
If she IS young enough to sit on Santa's lap, why is she supporting someone running for president?
[QUOTE=Demo-the-man;51399803]Why would a kid old enough to support someone running for president be sitting on Santa's lap and shit?
If she IS young enough to sit on Santa's lap, why is she supporting someone running for president?[/QUOTE]
Because young kids can't form a political opinion by themselves, and neither they do know what is a "private email server" or why hillary is in the "naughty list", usually the kid just learns from their parents.
[QUOTE=SenhorCreeper;51399801]I don't think you can get someone's political opinion through jokes, just like how I can say Trump looks like a big orange, try to guess my "political opinion" here[/QUOTE]
I don't think that's really comparable? "Politician looks silly" vs. "Politician is a naughty person". The latter pretty clearly sends the message that you don't approve of whatever they've done.
[QUOTE=SenhorCreeper;51399808]Because young kids can't form a political opinion by themselves, and neither they do know what is a "private email server" or why hillary is in the "naughty list", usually the kid just learns from their parents.[/QUOTE]
I was guessing it was just the parents forcing shit into their child's mind when she is clearly not fit to even care about or bother with such things, but that too is fair enough I suppose.
[QUOTE=TacticalBacon;51399810]I don't think that's really comparable? "Politician looks silly" vs. "Politician is a naughty person". The latter pretty clearly sends the message that you don't approve of whatever they've done.[/QUOTE]
and "whatever they've done" you may ask, do you think a child that young knows why of such thing? What Hillary did with her emails and her private email server is something a child that young just won't understand at all, that's why the mall Santa did that joke, because a kid that young won't understand something like that.
Eveyeone saying 'oh a kid can't make a political affiliation it must be the parents', no shit it comes from the parents. But just imagine right now raising a child, and the president is meant to set a good example, someone to be looked up to, a role model.
Trump sets a great example for kids with the ways he treats women and the way he conducts himself with such statesmanship.
Call it "sending a political message", if the kid doesn't have a damn clue about what the message means in the first place then it's not doing it's job as a message, is it?
[editline]20th November 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Doozle;51399817]
Trump sets a great example for kids with the ways he treats women and the way he conducts himself with such statesmanship.[/QUOTE]
The Clinton family sets a great example for kids too, by clearly not lying about getting a BJ in the [del]oral[/del] oval office
[video=youtube;KiIP_KDQmXs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiIP_KDQmXs[/video]
[QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;51399743]Yeah sex jokes are jokes too that doesn't mean Saint Nick ought to be cracking funnies about his dick size to 5 y/os.
Bottom line is that parents don't want people sticking political shit in their trip to the mall santa and if the customers don't want it then it's entirely reasonable for the mall not to put up with it.[/QUOTE]
Right but as a (presumed) first offense it's retarded to axe the guy for it.
Expecting folks not to think politically during one of the most controversial elections we'll ever see is absolutely handicapped, slap him on the wrist and say don't do it again.
Idk how some of you guys can protest against harsh punishment based systems like zero tolerance and then be ok with this kinda shit
[QUOTE=SenhorCreeper;51399821]Call it "sending a political message", if the kid doesn't have a damn clue about what the message means in the first place then it's not doing it's job as a message, is it?
[editline]20th November 2016[/editline]
The Clinton family sets a great example for kids too, by clearly not lying about getting a BJ in the [del]oral[/del] oval office
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiIP_KDQmXs[/url][/QUOTE]
Trump hasn't waited to get into the oval office before being a piece of shit
[QUOTE=SenhorCreeper;51399821]Call it "sending a political message", if the kid doesn't have a damn clue about what the message means in the first place then it's not doing it's job as a message, is it?
[editline]20th November 2016[/editline]
The Clinton family sets a great example for kids too, by clearly not lying about getting a BJ in the [del]oral[/del] oval office
[video=youtube;KiIP_KDQmXs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiIP_KDQmXs[/video][/QUOTE]
Who brought up Bill? I dont think kids are really caring all that much about the first lady/dude, much less looking up to them as role models. As a 10 year old I didnt know who Dick Cheney was lol
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