• SETI Scientists Call for Permanent Monitoring of Signal from Deep Space
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[quote]An international team of scientists from the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI) is investigating mysterious signal spikes emitting from a 6.3-billion-year-old star in the constellation Hercules—95 light years away from Earth. The implications are extraordinary and point to the possibility of a civilization far more advanced than our own.The unusual signal was originally detected on May 15, 2015, by the Russian Academy of Science-operated RATAN-600 radio telescope in Zelenchukskaya, Russia, but was kept secret from the international community. Interstellar space reporter Paul Gilster broke the story after the researchers quietly circulated a paper announcing the detection of “a strong signal in the direction of HD164595.” The mysterious star’s designation is HD164595, and it’s considered to be sun-like in nature with a nearly identical metallic composition to our own star. So far, a single Neptune-like (but warmer) planet has been discovered in its orbit—HD 164595 b. But as Gilster explained, “There could, of course, be other planets still undetected in this system.” Decorated Italian SETI researcher and mathematician Claudio Maccone along with Russia’s Nikolai Bursov of the Special Astrophysical Observatory are the principal scientists working on the apparent discovery. They claim that “permanent monitoring of this target is needed.[/quote] [quote]The detection of the mysterious signal and the ensuing investigations will be discussed at the IAA SETI Permanent Committee during the 67th International Astronautical Congress in Guadalajara, Mexico, on September 27—the same day and location where Elon Musk will reveal his plans to colonize Mars. The Observer will be following up on both these stories from the Congress.[/quote] [URL="http://observer.com/2016/08/not-a-drill-seti-is-investigating-a-possible-extraterrestrial-signal-from-deep-space/"]source[/URL] (and the source's [url=http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=36248]source[/url])
Probably Cthulhu adjusting his space tv
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why not shoot some powerful signals off in their direction and wait to see what happens [editline]29th August 2016[/editline] nothing could go wrong, right?
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50969370]why not shoot some powerful signals off in their direction and wait to see what happens [editline]29th August 2016[/editline] nothing could go wrong, right?[/QUOTE] Because that will take (95*2)+[I]n[/I] years to get back to us. With [I]n[/I] being the amount of time (in years) it takes for them to detect, and figure out its an artificial signal. Then theres the issue of just how much power we would need to generate to get a signal out there.
I heard this exact story two days ago on a singaporean hairweaving image board and just assumed it was bullshit. A dyson sphere type infrastructure would be quite a sight to see, I assume.
By all means, let's 'ave a gander at this signal. And while we're at it, let's 'ave a gander at the star to see if it has any planets. Could just be a natural phenomenon, but never hurts to look. After all, despite being an abyss, space doesn't look back into at that which looks at it.
[QUOTE=Cakebatyr;50969383]Because that will take (95*2)+[I]n[/I] years to get back to us. With [I]n[/I] being the amount of time (in years) it takes for them to detect, and figure out its an artificial signal.[/QUOTE]good, should be enough time for us to figure out guns big enough to kill alien warships or enough time for them to catch the signal and ruin our shit with a relativistic bomb
I always twinge a little whenever I read something as being a more advanced civilisation. If they behave at all like us, they might not be the nicest of neighbours! I wonder if it'll turn out to be another "microwave left on in the other room" signal.
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50969370]why not shoot some powerful signals off in their direction and wait to see what happens [editline]29th August 2016[/editline] nothing could go wrong, right?[/QUOTE] First: [quote]95 light years away[/quote] So it would take at least 190 years to get any response. Second: Most likely nothing at all is going to happen even if there's actually somebody there and they would detect the signal. At best they might decide to send some shit back as a response.
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50969370]why not shoot some powerful signals off in their direction and wait to see what happens [editline]29th August 2016[/editline] nothing could go wrong, right?[/QUOTE] Because that's the plot to battleship.
[QUOTE=CMB Unit 01;50969399]I always twinge a little whenever I read something as being a more advanced civilisation. If they behave at all like us, they might not be the nicest of neighbours! .[/QUOTE] Nah i doubt anything'd happen.
That's pretty incredible how close it is though, if we jumped to conclusions and assumed it was an alien civilization, then that means the first evidence of an alien civilization was from only 95 years ago. That'd be an incredible discovery. I mean for years everything everyone's been saying about SETI is that if we ever discovered anything the signal would be tens of thousands of years old and whoever sent it would be long dead by now, but to get a signal so close would be incredible.
[QUOTE=Joazzz;50969398]good, should be enough time for us to figure out guns big enough to kill alien warships or enough time for them to catch the signal and ruin our shit with a relativistic bomb[/QUOTE] If they have enough power to transmit a signal we can detect from 95 light years away, that could put them 95 years ahead of us [I]at least[/I] in technology. What did we have 95 years ago?
[QUOTE=Cakebatyr;50969383]Because that will take (95*2)+[I]n[/I] years to get back to us. With [I]n[/I] being the amount of time (in years) it takes for them to detect, and figure out its an artificial signal. Then theres the issue of just how much power we would need to generate to get a signal out there.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=mijyuoon;50969408]First: So it would take at least 190 years to get any response.[/QUOTE] when it comes to space you have to play the long game. you have to accept that you very well may never see the results of your experiments. you shouldn't be doing it for yourself, but for the knowledge of all of mankind, present and future. someone has to plant the seeds so that someone else further down the line may eat the fruit.
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50969444]when it comes to space you have to play the long game. you have to accept that you very well may never see the results of your experiments. you shouldn't be doing it for yourself, but for the knowledge of all of mankind, present and future. someone has to plant the seeds so that someone else further down the line may eat the fruit.[/QUOTE] Well, yea. I haven't said we shouldn't do this, just that it would take a long while and that there's a high chance that nothing at all is going to happen in the end. But still, somebody actually should do this IMO.
[QUOTE=Cakebatyr;50969435]If they have enough power to transmit a signal we can detect from 95 light years away, that could put them 95 years ahead of us [I]at least[/I] in technology. What did we have 95 years ago?[/QUOTE] Nikola Tesla. Aaaand that's about it, I think?
Please be alien porn, please be alien porn
[QUOTE=Cakebatyr;50969435]If they have enough power to transmit a signal we can detect from 95 light years away, that could put them 95 years ahead of us [I]at least[/I] in technology. What did we have 95 years ago?[/QUOTE] That isn't how radio astronomy works. We've sent signals decades ago to star systems tens of thousands of light years away, and they'll still be detectable when they arrive tens of thousands of years from now.
[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;50969541]That isn't how radio astronomy works. We've sent signals decades ago to star systems tens of thousands of light years away, and they'll still be detectable when they arrive tens of thousands of years from now.[/QUOTE] He still has a point though. If it was sent 95 years ago, and lets say they're at our current level of technology, they would have discovered many new technological advances by now.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;50969738]He still has a point though. If it was sent 95 years ago, and lets say they're at our current level of technology, they would have discovered many new technological advances by now.[/QUOTE] Oh of course they could potentially be thousands of years ahead of us, but he says they would be at least 95 years ahead of us as if to imply that only a species at least as advanced as we are now could have sent it, and I'm just pointing out that transmitting a radio signal that's powerful enough to be easy to detect under 100 light years away is not something that only an advanced civilization could do. Assuming it was a real signal, they could have sent it at the level of technology we were at 60 years ago.
If this signal is by any chance an actual radio transmission created by some alien civilization. Would that mean that other alien civilizations advance in the same way as we do. Like sometimes in sci fi you have the gross biotechnological aliens with the gross anus doors or what not, or some other strange ways of technology that we have no idea about. Maybe our technology advancement is the common way alien civilizations advance.
[QUOTE=FinalHunter;50969389]We'll all be long dead by the time they even receive it so might as well lol[/QUOTE] "Incoming transmission general!" "Alright, let me hear it..." "*facking cunts!*" "That's it, all ships move on its position! No more space truce!" [editline]29th August 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Deathtrooper2;50969884]If this signal is by any chance an actual radio transmission created by some alien civilization. Would that mean that other alien civilizations advance in the same way as we do. Like sometimes in sci fi you have the gross biotechnological aliens with the gross anus doors or what not, or some other strange ways of technology that we have no idea about. Maybe our technology advancement is the common way alien civilizations advance.[/QUOTE] Maybe aliens are exactly like us. Or maybe WE are the aliens...
Relevant to the whole "they must be more advanced than us" posts: [url]https://eyeofmidas.com/scifi/Turtledove_RoadNotTaken.pdf[/url]
I wonder if it'll be like the movies and America will somehow be speaking for the entire world when it comes to what we do when we encounter an Alien race, and what to do is assume they're hostile and everyone around the world gets fucked over because America is trigger happy. I mean they've displayed their attitude to "Aliens" already, can't imagine actual Aliens would be much different.
[QUOTE=GHOST!!!!;50970003]I wonder if it'll be like the movies and America will somehow be speaking for the entire world when it comes to what we do when we encounter an Alien race, and what to do is assume they're hostile and everyone around the world gets fucked over because America is trigger happy. I mean they've displayed their attitude to "Aliens" already, can't imagine actual Aliens would be much different.[/QUOTE] Well, best case scenario, they just leave us to rot on this mouldy trashball. Or implement some form of sanctions against America, if they don't generalize.
If they don't generalise that'd be amazing, I'd instantly have respect for them.
[QUOTE=GHOST!!!!;50970025]If they don't generalise that'd be amazing, I'd instantly have respect for them.[/QUOTE] Can I come too?
I'm willing to take a stab and say this is a 6/10 on the [URL="http://avsport.org/IAA/riocalc.htm"]Rio Scale[/URL]. But lets wait and get further confirmation from other stations.
[QUOTE=Sims_doc;50969409]Because that's the plot to battleship.[/QUOTE] Was going to mention that film. Even with how shitty the plot to that film is, a scenario like that could occur where we contact someone and then get fucked up by a Type III Civilization
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