• China preparing for armed conflict 'in every direction'
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[quote] [B]China is preparing for conflict 'in every direction', the defence minister said on Wednesday in remarks that threaten to overshadow a visit to Beijing by his US counterpart next month. [/B] "In the coming five years, our military will push forward preparations for military conflict in every strategic direction," said Liang Guanglie in an interview published by several state-backed newspapers in [URL="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/"]China[/URL]. "We may be living in peaceful times, but we can never forget war, never send the horses south or put the bayonets and guns away," Mr Liang added. China repeatedly says it is planning a "peaceful rise" but the recent pace and scale of its military modernisation has alarmed many of its neighbours in the Asia-Pacific, including Japan which described China's military build-up as a "global concern" this month. Mr Liang's remarks come at a time of increasingly difficult relations between the Chinese and US armed forces which a three-day visit by his counterpart Robert Gates is intended to address. A year ago China froze substantive military relations in protest at US arms sales to Taiwan and relations deteriorated further this summer when China objected to US plans to deploy one of its nuclear supercarriers, the USS George Washington, into the Yellow Sea off the Korean peninsula. China also announced this month that it was preparing to launch its own aircraft carrier next year in a signal that China is determined to punch its weight as a rising superpower. The news came a year earlier than many US defence analysts had predicted. China is also working on a "carrier-killing" ballistic missile that could sink US carriers from afar, fundamentally reordering the balance of power in a region that has been dominated by the US since the end of the Second World War. A US Navy commander, Admiral Robert Willard, told Japan's Asahi Shimbun newspaper this week that he believes the Chinese anti-ship missile, the Dong Feng 21, has already achieved "initial operational capability", although it would require years of testing. Analysts remain divided over whether China is initiating an Asian arms race. Even allowing for undeclared spending, China's annual defence budget is still less than one-sixth of America's $663bn a year, or less than half the US figure when expressed as a percentage of GDP. However in a speech earlier this year Mr Gates warned that China's new weapons, including its carrier-killing missile, "threaten America's primary way to project power and help allies in the Pacific", underscoring the difficulties that lie ahead as China and the US seek to contain growing strategic frictions. As China modernises, Mr Liang pledged that its armed forces would also increasingly use homegrown Chinese technology, which analysts say still lags behind Western technology even as China races to catch up. "The modernisation of the Chinese military cannot depend on others, and cannot be bought," Mr Liang added, "In the next five years, our economy and society will develop faster, boosting comprehensive national power. We will take the opportunity and speed up modernisation of the military."[/quote] [url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/8229789/China-preparing-for-armed-conflict-in-every-direction.html[/url]
Well shit, I hope this is as empty as the statements made by North Korea.
There really is something about WW III.... :smith:
Hinting perhaps that they intend to side with North Korea in the event of a war?
[QUOTE=TrouserDemon;27051494]Hinting perhaps that they intend to side with North Korea in the event of a war?[/QUOTE] thats stupid, they're just saying that the threat of war is never gone, and it never hurts to prepare for it.
I think China is more fearful of other nations rather than creating a empire.
"Every direction" includes not only the cardinal directions but up and down as well What is China planning??
It can't be world war 3 yet, Star Trek says it doesn't happen for over 40 more years! They're probably just flexing their peen, to appease their best korean friends
I think that China is a bubble and is going to burst in similar fashion to the Japanese economy in the late 80s. For those afraid of war, I don't think it's possible economically for China and America to go to war, simply because our economies are so heavily dependent on each other. Everything we make is from China, and everything they make is bought by the west and America
I, for one, welcome our new Chinese overlords.
This is a problem how?
I kinda smiled at the note that it still is merely a sixth of the US defense budget. It doesn't feel even remotely similar to the cold war arms race yet to be honest. Though somehow I've got a feeling that China has the manpower and technology by now, to even the pace out with the US in case that happened. They are in an arguable better position than the soviets were.
its always good to be prepared, don't see any problem with this.
The chief foundations of all states, new as well as old or composite, are good laws and good arms; and as there cannot be good laws where the state is not well armed, it follows that where they are well armed they have good laws.
[QUOTE=doggelito;27052206]The chief foundations of all states, new as well as old or composite, are good laws and good arms; and as there cannot be good laws where the state is not well armed, it follows that where they are well armed they have good laws.[/QUOTE] except that is bullshit iceland has good laws, but no military north korea has a massive military but is a brutal dictatorship
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Oh fuck. [editline]29th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Zeke129;27052875]North Korea is well armed[/QUOTE] What?
[QUOTE=Zeke129;27051732]"Every direction" includes not only the cardinal directions but up and down as well What is China planning??[/QUOTE] China is invading the moon!
[QUOTE=Nyaos;27051762]I think that China is a bubble and is going to burst in similar fashion to the Japanese economy in the late 80s. For those afraid of war, I don't think it's possible economically for China and America to go to war, simply because our economies are so heavily dependent on each other. Everything we make is from China, and everything they make is bought by the west and America[/QUOTE] What's funny is that many people here still say that "China has everything to lose in a conventional war that will never break out" while it's damn clear that such an event would have negative consequences for all in this globalized world. [QUOTE=wraithcat;27052047]I kinda smiled at the note that it still is merely a sixth of the US defense budget. It doesn't feel even remotely similar to the cold war arms race yet to be honest. Though somehow I've got a feeling that China has the manpower and technology by now, to even the pace out with the US in case that happened. They are in an arguable better position than the soviets were.[/QUOTE] Heheh, maybe without a military-industrial complex to make it as bloated as the Americans a country can keep its budget mean and lean. --- Then again, after the Soviet Union fell, the new US military strategy became "ready to deploy and fight in any contingency around the world". (It's all in the [url=http://www.fs.fed.us/fire/doctrine/genesis_and_evolution/source_materials/FM-100-5_operations.pdf][b]manual[/b][/url]) Why do people single this out as a "threat"? Are we going back to "Soviet Military Power" fearmongering again? Looks like Secretary Gates is.
[QUOTE=SkinkYEA;27052903]China is invading the moon![/QUOTE] And the Earth's core!
They're just saying that they'll be ready for anything that comes at them, christ.
I still dislike china.
I hope nothing happens. :smith:
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hopefully this turns out for the best so instead of the US fighting bullshit wars in the middle-east, China can step up to the plate i mean really come on they have like 1 billion + clones over there
[QUOTE=Moose;27054813]hopefully this turns out for the best so instead of the US fighting bullshit wars in the middle-east, China can step up to the plate i mean really come on they have like 1 billion + clones over there[/QUOTE] Why would china fight in the middle-east. They're as stupid as America.
that was the point i was trying to get at
Well it's not like they can just expect everyone to like them. [QUOTE=Zeke129;27051732]"Every direction" includes not only the cardinal directions but up and down as well What is China planning??[/QUOTE] They're after the dwarves and space tigers.
Every direction? [img]http://i49.tinypic.com/nf1mde.jpg[/img] Damn you Mongowians!
I'm moving to China... Nice
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