In my religious education class, (which we are forced to do,) me and my friends like to ask questions. Every time we ask question she seems to answer it! (WRONGLY!) So do you have question i could ask to try and prove to her god does not exist?
You can't prove either the existance, or the absence of a god.
Speak about the argument of poor design.
A god who is omnipotent and omnibenevolent shouldn't allow any evil to take place, yet it still does. And what about the existance of hell?
A god who wanted believers to join him in heaven would make a much better job of making people believe.
With so many religions having a God, all various ones, either one or none of those religions can be correct. Assuming she believes in a Christian God, then she's effectively saying she believes that all other religions are wrong, not an especially great view for an RE teacher.
Occam's good old Razor shows that it's easier to assume there one does not exist, as the world would not change if he were not.
Oh, there's just so many, but if she's a devout zealot then it's pretty much pointless. In my experience, it's pointless talking to them about religion, because they're 100% correct.
Plus, you'll get the good old favourite of as soon as you make a good point, 'well, listen, it's just my beliefs, you don't have to believe them too'.
However, you'll do better to explain why you think there isn't one, as opposed to other recycled ideas.
[QUOTE=kaskade700;18729827]You can't prove either the existance, or the absence of a god.[/QUOTE]
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You can prove that someone is a dumbass though.
I don't think you can convert RE teachers to atheism, do yourself a favor and don't try.
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Plus, you'll get the good old favourite of as soon as you make a good point, 'well, listen, it's just my beliefs, you don't have to believe them too'.
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That is when you ask her why other religious foundations in the U.S don't get complete tax-breaks like Christianity, or why gays aren't allowed to have same sex marriage. The ONLY reason those aren't allowed are due to her beliefs, and them being forced on other people.
[QUOTE=kaskade700;18729827]You can't prove either the existance, or the absence of a god.[/QUOTE]This right here is all that needs to be said.
Does she think the bible is literal? Does she think that a whale LITERALLY swallowed somebody whole (Which is impossible by the way) because if she does she's pretty dumb.
The bible is like any other religious book. It is not meant to be taken literally, but rather as metaphors and allusions to rules and codes you should live by. The Dao De Jing isn't supposed to be taken literally, nor is the Torah (Which is just the first five books of the bible) or the Quran.
Ask her if she thinks the Torah is a holy book or not. If she says she does not personally believe it is than she is officially stupid, because it is LITERALLY just the first five books of the bible, and therefore she doesn't think that the bible is a holy book either.
Ask her why we should believe in a god, but not gnomes, elves etc.
Basically [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot]this[/url]
I don't believe that God exists, but it's just mean to be aggressive towards one's beliefs for no actual reason.
Faith is faith, so you should only argue when she says something truly wrong, like saying that homosexuality is Devil's work.
[QUOTE=Dronaroid;18730317]I don't believe that God exists, but it's just mean to be aggressive towards one's beliefs for no actual reason.
Faith is faith, so you should only argue when she says something truly wrong, like saying that homosexuality is Devil's work.[/QUOTE]
Well when the force us to learn about it i feel i have a right to be agressive by asking question. At the moment we are trying to make her teach about jedism because it is a religion.
[QUOTE=Miasmic;18729868][QUOTE=kaskade700;18729827]You can't prove either the existance, or the absence of a god.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=General Stanley;18730409]Well when the force us to learn about it i feel i have a right to be agressive by asking question. At the moment we are trying to make her teach about jedism because it is a religion.[/QUOTE]
I advise you to only act aggressive when she tries to shove something down your throat.
You are taking this class to learn about other cultures and religions. To arm yourself to disprove them if you really find that absolutely necessary.
Complete waste of time if it didn't promote good cultural relativism.
[QUOTE=General Stanley;18730409]Well when the force us to learn about it i feel i have a right to be agressive by asking question. At the moment we are trying to make her teach about jedism because it is a religion.[/QUOTE]
You learn the atheist view via. biology- and physics class, and since quite a large part of the world still believe in a religion it's only fair that both sides of the story is presented. Furthermore, your school doesn't choose wether or not you have to have religious education, your goverment does, so stop taking it out on your poor teacher.
[QUOTE=General Stanley;18730409]Well when the force us to learn about it i feel i have a right to be agressive by asking question. At the moment we are trying to make her teach about jedism because it is a religion.[/QUOTE]
Suggest that a brief study would be a morale boost. Leave it as a polite suggestion with her and she may throw it in if she has time.
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[QUOTE=kaskade700;18730542]You learn the atheist view via. biology- and physics class, and since quite a large part of the world still believe in a religion it's only fair that both sides of the story is presented. Furthermore, your school doesn't choose wether or not you have to have religious education, your goverment does, so stop taking it out on your poor teacher.[/QUOTE]
Rightly said.
[QUOTE=Dronaroid;18730317]I don't believe that God exists, but it's just mean to be aggressive towards one's beliefs for no actual reason.
Faith is faith, so you should only argue when she says something truly wrong, like saying that homosexuality is Devil's work.[/QUOTE]
Faith is stupid. If I said that I had "faith" that the world is made of cheese, you'd call me an idiot, but when it's religious it's "sacred" and we have to accept it.
[QUOTE=TailsPrower;18730309]This right here is all that needs to be said.[/QUOTE]
People are still gonna bitch and shit and make it into debate.
Religion's such fun.
Ask her whether God can make a rock which is so heavy that he himself can't carry it anymore.
Tell her to prove that God exists. The burden of proof lies not upon the skeptic.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;18730793]Tell her to prove that God exists. The burden of proof lies not upon the skeptic.[/QUOTE]
He/She'll tell him that she teaches values and by no means are trying to prove/convert anything/someone.
[QUOTE=kaskade700;18730827]He/She'll tell him that she teaches values and by no means are trying to prove/convert anything/someone.[/QUOTE]
Tell her/him that you don't need someone to teach you not to steal or kill or blackmail. It's common sense.
If god exists, why did he create atheists?
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;18730861]Tell her/him that you don't need someone to teach you not to steal or kill or blackmail. It's common sense.[/QUOTE]
Then she(lets stop the he/she shit) will tell him that it doesn't change the fact that it's an obligatory class, and no matter how narrow minded you might be it never hurts to hear a different take on a sociological, or communal problem.
And also maybe something about how he's 14 and if anything went by his 'common sense' there wouldn't be any homework, classes that he doesn't like, and that he then wouldn't have had to have parents to raise him since the way he was raised to be was 'common sense'
[QUOTE=Turbis2;18730881]If god exists, why did he create atheists?[/QUOTE]
Entertainment purposes.
[QUOTE=Turbis2;18730881]If god exists, why did he create atheists?[/QUOTE]
They chose to create themselves as such.
:hurr:
Somewhat related
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldHF6PFUukw[/url]
They say that "Every law of the land comes from the bible"
Say to that: "Was video piracy illegal back then?" :smug:
Our BPE (Beliefs, Philosophy and Ethics) class is really good, because [i]everyone[/i] is atheist, even the teachers.
[QUOTE=Negrul1;18731060]Our BPE (Beliefs, Philosophy and Ethics) class is really good, because [i]everyone[/i] is atheist, even the teachers.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. fuck diversity, go cirklejerking!
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