• am's Glorious (and Obliviously Chosen) Gaming and Design Riggus Maximus (Approx. $1.5k)
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Hi hello, I'm Andrew. I've never built a computer before (due to being a total money-less scrub). After toiling over a 4 year-old stock Acer Aspire X1200 bought from a local Best Buy and saving up just enough emone for a new system, I figured it's about time I broke down and built my first system. I have no idea what I'm doing. Could you help me, Facepunch? This is what I've personally thrown together after having watched babby's first compooper vids on the YouTubs, and reading up on some junk at Tom's Hardware. My aims with this system are to game, do a bit of graphic design work, and develop software on—so there's a bit of usage range here. I need something sufficiently powerful, and I think this probably exceeds that in some categories. In no particular order other than what is on my Newegg Wishlist: [B]1 x [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151244"]SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner SATA Model SH-222BB/BEBE - OEM[/URL] 1 x [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139016"]Corsair Carbide Series 300R Windowed Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case[/URL] 1 x [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697"]Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive[/URL] 2 x [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236292"]ASUS PB Series PB238Q Black 23" 6ms (GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor IPS panel, Height, Pivot and Swivel adjustable[/URL] 1 x [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127616"]MSI N560GTX-Ti-M2D1GD5/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card[/URL] 1 x [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027"]CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply[/URL] 1 x [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823109191"]Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Keyboard[/URL] 1 x [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826146009"]GIGABYTE GM-M6800 Noble Black 5+1 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB Wired Optical Dual Lens Gaming Mouse[/URL] 1 x [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157293"]ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard[/URL] |-- [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231546"]G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-8GAB[/URL] 1 x [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116505"]Intel Core i5-3550 Ivy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2500 BX80637I53550[/URL] 1 x [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116997"]Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit - OEM[/URL] Total Cost: [I]$1,496.88 [/I][/B] My questions are: 1) Does everything look okay? 2) Are the components compatible with each other? 3) Am I missing anything? 4) Will there be bottlenecks with the components I've chosen? 5) Should I consider anything else? Thanks in advance, PC Building!
you've chosen a micro ATX board with a full-size ATX tower. probably not a good idea. also it may just be my own personal preference but I would reccomend a smaller case as opposed to a larger motherboard. full size towers become a pain unless you are certain you will not move it around
In my opinion I'd go with the 660ti, its only 40 bucks more for a full generation upgrade. - EDIT: Sorry im dumb, I thought 560ti's went for 259.99$ Even saying that though, I would still strongly recommend the 660ti it will last longer in the long run.
There's absolutely no reason to get a case that's nearly 1/5th of your budget.
1. It's best to grab a i5-3570K. Because you also stated graphics design and coding, depending on how often you do those too, you could consider an i7, but the 3570K is easily overclockable. 2. A mATX mobo with a full ATX case is a bit of a waste. Grab a better mobo, preferably one with the Z77 chipset. 3. The PSU may not put out enough power. Grab a 650w PSU. 4. Although not necessary, I'd strongly recommend putting a SSD in. 5. You shouldn't need a full tower. Grab a mid tower instead.
I've gotten a number of comments on the 660 Ti, but because of my choice of components, I can't afford it. Other notes based on feedback I've been given: I plan on keeping this overly expensive case until the day it breaks or is unusable in entirety. I plan on keeping the monitors until they break or new standards for video are worked on. The rest of the components are low-balled because I plan on replacing them in 2-4 years again through upgrade kits. [editline]11th September 2012[/editline] I'm also currently looking for a different PSU, suggestions are highly appreciated and I also appreciate your guys' feedback so far. Thanks!
There is ZERO reason other than SLI/CFX setups and/or non-closed loop liquid cooling that you should need a full tower case. Grab. A. Mid. Tower. (that is, unless you already have one)
Oh man, where to begin. CPU: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504[/url] ($230) Heatsink: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099[/url] ($37) Mobo: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157293[/url] ($135) Memory: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233203[/url] ($84) GPU: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102989[/url] ($320) HDD: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533[/url] ($110) SSD: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441[/url] ($73) PSU: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020[/url] ($90) OS: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986[/url] ($100) Case: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216[/url] ($90) DVD: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106276[/url] ($20) Monitor: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236175[/url] ($170) Keyboard: Mouse: Total: $1459 You pick out the rest
That's a no-go on the monitor. But I have made some changes to the rig thanks to various people. Thanks again for the input guys, keep it coming, please! I'll be updating the OP now. [editline]11th September 2012[/editline] Updating the mobo to Evilan's revision. [editline]11th September 2012[/editline] Update: Evilan's mobo choice comes with memory. P. cool. [editline]11th September 2012[/editline] Updated the list!
FYI windows 7 home x64 is 80 dollars for ~30 hours from posting with promo code EMCNAJJ236. Also the [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065"]h 212[/URL] is 20 dollars right now with the 10 dollar rebate. I think this expires at about the same time. This thing's an absolute beast in the 50 dollar price range, let alone the 20-30 dollar range. You don't get 5 star with 3.5k reviews on newegg for nothing.
The only advice I can give is that if there is a local computer hardware store, go look for a case there. I picked up a pretty badass atx mid case for 60$, a Raidmax Seiran. Plus, cases are big boxes, so they are pretty expensive shipping.
From that first build you posted i could probably cook up a 700€ build that would outperform yours Evilan hits the spot but 16Gb of ram that's like 4 generations of games ahead
[QUOTE=Birdman101;37699069]I picked up a pretty [B]badass [/B]atx mid case for 60$, a [B]Raidmax Seiran[/B]. Plus, cases are big boxes, so they are pretty expensive shipping.[/QUOTE] Raidmax is known for making utter shit. I would not be surprised if your case were to fall apart before the end of its usable life.
[QUOTE=wickedplayer494;37705003]Raidmax is known for making utter shit. I would not be surprised if your case were to fall apart before the end of its usable life.[/QUOTE] Hasn't broke on me so far. I had no idea they were shit in general, I just bought a case and it works fine.
[QUOTE=DrBreen;37703944]From that first build you posted i could probably cook up a 700€ build that would outperform yours Evilan hits the spot but 16Gb of ram that's like 4 generations of games ahead[/QUOTE] I don't care about a 700€ build in the slightest, because if you bought a complete system to mirror mine, monitors, keyboard and mouse, it sure wouldn't be 700€, so it's pretty irrelevant. Saying you can build a system for 700€ that outperforms mine is about as surprising as saying you can spit across the width of a sidewalk. That's cool, but you've only built the tower, what about matching my two monitors, new keyboard and mouse? The posted system above is not what I built, I'll update it tomorrow to show the final build.
Take it from someone who's owned a really expensive, really large case; It's not worth it. It's just a bunch of headaches, huge and heavy cases are a pain to move so every time you need to get into it for any reason it becomes an ordeal. The cost of the thing means less money is spent on actual performance, and all you get out of the expensive case is some flashy features, most of which are not worth what you pay. The fact that it's expensive also means every single scratch you see (and there will be plenty, trust me) will ruin your day as you see the money you wasted flash before your eyes. Save yourself a whole lot of trouble and money and just get a standard cheap (<$50) miditower. It'll work just as well and nobody will care the slightest that it doesn't have a windowed side panel and flashy lights.
the case in the op can support micro ATX boards. It even says that in the details. [h=1][/h]Motherboard Compatibility Micro ATX / ATX
[QUOTE=mastfire;37731955]the case in the op can support micro ATX boards. It even says that in the details. [h=1][/h]Motherboard Compatibility Micro ATX / ATX[/QUOTE] It's part of the ATX standard that you are able to support micro ATX. Putting a micro ATX board in a case designed for a full ATX board works, but it looks ridiculous, and servers almost no functional benefit. The board OP updated his build with is also a full ATX board. In fact, coincidentally enough, I have that board sitting on my table right now waiting for NCIX support to process an order because their site farted and incorrectly listed something. :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Zephyrs;37732259]It's part of the ATX standard that you are able to support micro ATX. Putting a micro ATX board in a case designed for a full ATX board works, but it looks ridiculous, and servers almost no functional benefit. The board OP updated his build with is also a full ATX board. In fact, coincidentally enough, I have that board sitting on my table right now waiting for NCIX support to process an order because their site farted and incorrectly listed something. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] ah ok I see now
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