Sheriff candidate says he wouldn't reject deadly force to stop abortions
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[quote]MANCHESTER, N.H. —
A Republican candidate for Hillsborough County Sheriff said Wednesday that he believes elective abortions are unlawful and he wouldn't reject the use of deadly force to stop them.
Frank Szabo said that as sheriff, he would arrest any doctor performing elective or late-term abortions in his jurisdiction.
"There is a difference between legal and lawful," Szabo said.
Szabo explained the difference by referring to the issue of slavery, which he said used to be legal but was never lawful under the Constitution. He said that even though elective abortions are legal in New Hampshire, with some restrictions, he doesn't consider them lawful.
But Szabo may have inflamed the issue further when asked if he would use deadly force to prevent an abortion.
"I would respond specifically by saying that if someone is under threat, a full-grown human being, if they're under threat, what should the sheriff do? Everything in their power to prevent them from being harmed," he said.
When pressed about what he would do if he learned that a doctor was about to perform an elective abortion, Szabo replied he would do what it took to prevent that from happening.
"Absolutely," he said. "Well, I would hope that it wouldn't come to that, as with any situation where someone is in danger, but again, specifically talking about elective abortions and late-term abortions, that is an act that needs to be stopped."
Republican House Speaker Bill O'Brien called on Szabo to quit the race in light of his statements.
"Mr. Szabo's comments make it clear that he does not understand the constitutional role of sheriff in New Hampshire. Moreover, no elected official is given the latitude to take the law into his or her own hands and decide he or she knows better than the Legislature and governor what should be enforceable laws," O'Brien said in a written statement. "It is our hope that Mr. Szabo will withdraw from this race and think long and hard about grounding himself in constitutional law and principles before considering political office in the future."
Szabo said he would arrest doctors who perform elective or late-term abortions and bring them to the county attorney to prosecute, even if the doctors' actions were allowed under state law.
"The county attorney would then need to follow through on prosecuting," Szabo said. "And if they choose not to do their duty and uphold the constitution, they can be brought up on charges before what is called a citizens grand jury, which is something that is not common in the United States, but again is something based in common law that is within the purview of the county sheriff."
Szabo maintains that the county sheriff is a position that doesn't answer to any other public official.
"The county sheriff doesn't have a superior officer," he said. "They are the chief law enforcement officer of the county. If a public official tells them to do something, they need to ask why and not just automatically do it."
Szabo said he doesn't have any background in law enforcement, but he said his business background gives him the experience to run for the position of sheriff. [/quote]
Source: [url]http://www.wmur.com/news/politics/Sheriff-candidate-says-he-wouldn-t-reject-deadly-force-to-stop-abortions/-/9857748/16225528/-/9c091s/-/index.html#ixzz24NBalFNk[/url]
Saw this on my news feed and just about facepalmed. He later apologized for his comments, but it still makes me wonder if he only did that to save face.
[quote]"I would respond specifically by saying that if someone is under threat, a full-grown human being, if they're under threat, what should the sheriff do? Everything in their power to prevent them from being harmed," he said.
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So undeveloped fetuses are now "full-grown human beings"? What the fuck?
Yeah, he's going to be responding to 911 calls over people masturbating and bringing his shotgun into their homes to teach them a lesson about killing life.
[QUOTE=Nikota;37379460]Yeah, he's going to be responding to 911 calls over people masturbating and bringing his shotgun into their homes to teach them a lesson about killing life.[/QUOTE]
"And in one fell swoop, every male teenager was rounded up and sentenced to life in prison for mass murder."
"Szabo explained the difference by referring to the issue of slavery, which he said used to be legal but was never lawful under the Constitution. He said that even though elective abortions are legal in New Hampshire, with some restrictions, he doesn't consider them lawful."
An officer or sheriff doesn't have the privilege to discern between what is legal and what is "lawful". He should have gone to law school if he wanted to be a judge...
[QUOTE=Archimedes;37379492]"And in one fell swoop, every male teenager was rounded up and sentenced to life in prison for mass murder."[/QUOTE]
Hitler doesn't even begin to compare to my atrocities if that were the case...
[editline]24th August 2012[/editline]
Also why would you even need deadly force? You walk in and shoot the would-be mother? Or you shoot the doctor? Or both?
Okay, so here's how I see him seeing it:
A woman (one life) wants to abort her fetus (another life), so I'll [I]SHOOT THE WOMAN[/I] (which will kill the fetus since it's not developed enough to survive on its own.
So he's killing it to prevent her from killing it.
I just.
My brain.
Stopped.
[QUOTE=Forumaster;37379721]Okay, so here's how I see him seeing it:
A woman (one life) wants to abort her fetus (another life), so I'll [I]SHOOT THE WOMAN[/I] (which will kill the fetus since it's not developed enough to survive on its own.
So he's killing it to prevent her from killing it.
I just.
My brain.
Stopped.[/QUOTE]
No, he would shoot the doctor performing the abortion.
[QUOTE=Forumaster;37379721]Okay, so here's how I see him seeing it:
A woman (one life) wants to abort her fetus (another life), so I'll [I]SHOOT THE WOMAN[/I] (which will kill the fetus since it's not developed enough to survive on its own.
So he's killing it to prevent her from killing it.
I just.
My brain.
Stopped.[/QUOTE]Its Mass-Effect-3 Syndrome.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;37379742]No, he would shoot the doctor performing the abortion.[/QUOTE]
That's just ridiculous. It's an invasive procedure that's signed and authorized by the patient in legal areas. If the Sheriff murders someone over performing legal abortions then how is it any different than allowing the abortion? It just makes people not want to pursue medical professions for a nobler reason than money: To help those who need it.
[QUOTE=Roukan;37379839]That's just ridiculous. It's an invasive procedure that's signed and authorized by the patient in legal areas. If the Sheriff murders someone over performing legal abortions then how is it any different than allowing the abortion? It just makes people not want to pursue medical professions for a nobler reason than money: To help those who need it.[/QUOTE]
Because this guy thinks being Sheriff turns him into fucking Judge Dredd.
So what's he going to do to stop abortions? Shoot the mother?
Why are all the biggest douchebags named Szabo
who the fuck names their kid "Szabo"
how the fuck do you even pronounce that
Well it's a last name that is common in Hungary but many assholes have that name: the head of the Hungarian nazi party, this sheriff, me...
I always thought it was funny how more effort is put into defending unborn children than live ones.
this guy is a nut
yeah go ahead and tell everyone that you're planning on doing stupid shit thats extreme and outside your fucking job
excellent way to convince people that you're the right person for the position
[quote][B]Szabo said he doesn't have any background in law enforcement, but he said his business background gives him the experience to run for the position of sheriff.[/B][/quote]
Oh, fucking [I]really?[/I]
[QUOTE=Kinversulath;37381295]Oh, fucking [I]really?[/I][/QUOTE]
This shouldn't even be allowed. To run for a [i]law enforcement position[/i] you should absolutely be required to have a goddamn law enforcement background. Maybe if he had a background in law enforcement he'd understand that it isn't his place to decide what's "lawful," because that's basically taking the law into your own hands which is illegal. This is not only incredibly stupid, but how the hell would he even enforce this? Just kick down the doors of abortion clinics at random to make sure the doctors weren't doing their job, and if they were he'd consider using deadly force against them?
[QUOTE=Kinversulath;37381295]Oh, fucking [I]really?[/I][/QUOTE]
I'm starting to think this is all some joke played by a guy who is bored or wants to send a message.
[QUOTE=person11;37380485]Well it's a last name that is common in Hungary but many assholes have that name: the head of the Hungarian nazi party, this sheriff, me...[/QUOTE]
Have you felt a desire to be a nazi sheriff recently?
I have recently desired hunting wild boars with my bow and eating its heart raw to gain its power.
Hungarians are badass, assholes or not.
Mostly assholes though.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;37379428]So undeveloped fetuses are now "full-grown human beings"? What the fuck?[/QUOTE]
Guess we can claim them on tax returns then.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;37382024]Guess we can claim them on tax returns then.[/QUOTE]
At 200 million sperm/wank wasted, I can claim 200 million children on my tax return per day :v:
[editline]23rd August 2012[/editline]
I'll have more than 10x the amount of people on Earth in a year as children
The hypocrisy is mind-fucking-blowing
When I saw the title I wondered what backwards ass state he was from.
I live 15 minutes away :( I don't want this guy as my sheriff
[quote]Szabo said he doesn't have any background in law enforcement, but he said his business background gives him the experience to run for the position of sheriff.
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I have no background in auto mechanics, but my IT background gives me the experience to repair a Lamborghini.
what if a fetus, being a full-grown person, decides that it wants to abort itself
what then
[QUOTE=Ezhik;37383143]what if a fetus, being a full-grown person, decides that it wants to abort itself
what then[/QUOTE]
Assisted suicide is not "lawful" and therefore any attempts for the fetus to abort itself will be met with deadly force.
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