• Kids in Denmark do science and discover Wi-Fi signals inihibit plantgrowth
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[quote]Five ninth-grade young women from Denmark recently created a science experiment that is causing a stir in the scientific community. They found that when garden cress seeds are placed near Wi-Fi, they simply will not grow. It started with an observation and a question. The girls noticed that if they slept with their mobile phones near their heads at night, they often had difficulty concentrating at school the next day. They wanted to test the effect of a cellphone's radiation on humans, but their school, Hjallerup School in Denmark, did not have the equipment to handle such an experiment. So the girls designed an experiment that would test the effect of cellphone radiation on a plant instead. The students placed six trays filled with Lepidium sativum, a type of garden cress into a room without radiation, and six trays of the seeds into another room next to two routers that according to the girls calculations, emitted about the same type of radiation as an ordinary cellphone Over the next 12 days, the girls observed, measured, weighed and photographed their results. Although by the end of the experiment the results were blatantly obvious — the cress seeds placed near the router had not grown. Many of them were completely dead. While the cress seeds planted in the other room, away from the routers, thrived. The experiment earned the girls (pictured below) top honors in a regional science competition and the interest of scientists around the world.[/quote] Source: [url]http://beyondblindfold.com/9th-grade-science-project-finds-plants-dont-grow-near-wi-fi/[/url] Well I guess FP is safe should we ever get invaded by sentient plants. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Crappy blog source" - SteveUK))[/highlight]
I've been sleeping with my phone next to my head, while charging and the router in my room on, 24/7 for the past 10 years. Fuck the world.
Considering that this was done by ninth-graders, I'd like to see more trials before I start believing anything.
[QUOTE=Stopper;42498500]I've been sleeping with my phone next to my head, while charging and the router in my room on, 24/7 for the past 10 years. Fuck the world.[/QUOTE] Don't worry at worst you're just as stupid as you were 10 years ago.
The seeds are too busy browsing funny videos on youtube, so they don't grow.
As someone with my wifi router right under my grow table, you might want to tell the plants that. This isn't even a study. This is middle school bullshit. In fact, BRB. I'm going to go sew some seeds right on top of the router.
A concerning discovery, but requires further study in a professional environment before we push it out there fully.
[QUOTE=SamPerson123;42498516]Considering that this was done by ninth-graders, I'd like to see more trials before I start believing anything.[/QUOTE] Yeah, considering how out there the results are (it completely killed some plants?) compared to other studies, I'm inclined to assume there were issues with the experiment.
When I actually see some peer-reviewed articles about this sorta thing, then I'll take it seriously.
I live within a 5 minutes worth of walking walk from of a 200m tall radio transmitter with radio transmitters working on pretty much all thinkable frequencies menacing from it like off a Christmas tree. You can sometimes hear some random radio station faintly just by having a computer speaker connector in the air, not connected to anything. If a low output wifi did jack shit, I would have to be dead by now, and nothing would grow around this place.
[QUOTE=Grimhound;42498566]As someone with my wifi router right under my grow table, you might want to tell the plants that. This isn't even a study. This is middle school bullshit. In fact, BRB. I'm going to go sew some seeds right on top of the router.[/QUOTE] Actually, [sp]it's high school bullshit[/sp]
[img]http://puu.sh/4O8Ta.png[/img] What an amazing source :v:
Bullshit, I have a cane plant in my backyard that grows feet by the week every year
I have 2 routers underneath my bed and beside me my phone and tablet are charging while I sleep... [sp]I'm an A* student[/sp]
This was debunked as bad science. [url]http://www.pepijnvanerp.nl/2013/05/danish-school-experiment-with-wifi-routers-and-garden-cress-good-example-of-bad-science/[/url] Points include: Not properly controlled Not blinded Publication bias - not reporting negative results. Misleading representation of the result in the press. Faulty statistical analysis. Biased towards a particular result. Cherry picking.
The source is a website that promotes the belief that big pharma is actively hindering cancer research. Just saying.
This is probably just the same hippie bullshit as this. These people disregard all real peer reviewed science. [URL="http://rense.com/general70/microwaved.htm"]" Microwaved Water - See What It Does To Plants "[/URL]
WiFi is 2.4GHz, in the non-ionizing spectrum (radio) [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/33/EM-spectrum.png[/IMG] They don't have enough energy to "knock" electrons off atoms and mutate cells
This is bullshit. They grew both in different rooms. One was standing next to a router, which are the second hottest equipment next to nvidia GPUs in existance. They didn't even bother to put the router in the other room and repeat the experiment.
Radio killed the plants But not really
Meanwhile Ultraviolet light burns skin causing painful rashes.
[QUOTE]It started with an observation and a question. The girls noticed that if they slept with their mobile phones near their heads at night, they often had difficulty concentrating at school the next day.[/QUOTE] News just in Danish girls has discovered what being tired is like :v:
Its bullshit that its ionizing, however it could be nuclear magnetic resonance as water resonants at 2.45GHz (Same as WiFi and Microwaves), just heats up the water molecules in the plants. EDIT: Typos
I'm so happy that Facepunch isn't the "WiFi gives you autism" kind of group
I grow my pot (legal, medical) in my basement with a router close by, I might move my router upstairs and if my next harvest is more abundant. [editline]12th October 2013[/editline] Never mind this study is bullshit, fuck moving my routers
[QUOTE=J!NX;42499538]I'm so happy that Facepunch isn't the "WiFi gives you autism" kind of group[/QUOTE] Well Facepunch is a gaming community And the pro-est of gamers (like Facepunch) always uses cable.
This was in danish media ages ago, does that warrant late?
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;42499541]I grow my pot (legal, medical) in my basement with a router close by, I might move my router upstairs and if my next harvest is more abundant. [editline]12th October 2013[/editline] Never mind this study is bullshit, fuck moving my routers[/QUOTE] Kids in Denmark do science and discover Wi-Fi signals [B]inihibit [/B]plantgrowth
This article is like 1 year late, and there has been no 'scientific' stir caused by this. The project was done so incredibly shoddily there was no actual scientific value to this whole project. More than 10 variables were discovered between the test and control group. [CODE]The exposure to 'wi-fi' was done by placing the seeds next to a laptop. This is wrong and stupid, since a laptop does not radiate Wi-Fi. It only picks it up... so they might as well have put it next to a dishwasher. What a laptop does do however is blow hot and cold cooling air which is a growth inhibiting factor for developing seeds to have.[/CODE] [CODE]There was no blind testing done.[/CODE] [CODE] They did not report negative results, and kept quiet about results that pointed towards their hypothesis being wrong.[/CODE] [CODE]The press picked up heavily on this, and evangelized it as being "100% accurate and scientific" and treated it as such, even though it didn't meet the criteria needed to qualify as such"[/CODE] [CODE] I don't remember what, but there were problems with their analysis as well. Basically they had arithmetical errors in their statistics[/CODE] And much more. Denmark is a country which is very anti-radiation in it's mindset, and the teacher only provided literature towards the endresult she wanted to achieve. The point of this was never to scientifically determine if Wi-Fi is damaging, just to promote an agenda. The teacher formed an hypothesis and then steered the students towards developing that endresult instead of doing a proper unbiased study and then form a conclusion. I've looked into this, written an essay about it in Dutch, and gave a speech about it at Nijmegen University in the Netherlands. This whole project is unreliable, I promise you.
People who don't understand technology will always hear "radiation" and assume that it is going to affect you negatively. I suppose it is a little understandable to make that mistake when the term has a strong association with nuclear weapons, but the truth of the matter is electromagnetic radiation and ionizing radiation are two separate things that have vastly different effects on living things and the environment. They should really be learning exactly what wi-fi is and how it works rather than trying to prove a hypothesis that they formulated themselves, since I doubt they understand the principles involved other than "radiation sends information from one place to another and this radiation can get inside people and plants".
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