What are your opinions?
Pretty much everyone in my family still habitually buys DVDs and DVDs still take up the majority of floor space in some shops.
Doesn't seem to be the case here, plenty of people use Blu-Ray and lots of shop sell a variety of old DVDs and newer Blu Rays. Most new movies aren't even on DVDs here, it seems.
Did for me at least, main attractions were its top notch quality and the fact I can make a copy in this day and age without DRM which also makes it easy as piss to play in VLC.
Blu Ray and DVD both have DRM
Yes and no. We don't buy DVD's anymore so that's a plus for Blu-ray, but we don't buy any physical media at all since we can get almost anything we want from online streaming so it doesn't really earn BR any points. Our media computer has a Blu-Ray drive, but it's a shit sandwich to play anything on it. Every time we do end up getting a new BR movie, the fucking software demands we buy the latest version to watch it. It ended up being so annoying we just bought a cheap LG blu-ray player to use instead, which put us off the whole media.
In terms of being used to transfer data between computers like people used to do with DVD's before flash drives got big and cheap, we don't use BR at all since none of our computers have BDR drives and even if they did it's easier and faster and cheaper to just use dropbox or an external hard drive. So no, as a whole, Blu-Ray didn't take off, but it does have its niche uses.
[QUOTE=Trekintosh;46659786]Yes and no. We don't buy DVD's anymore so that's a plus for Blu-ray, but we don't buy any physical media at all since we can get almost anything we want from online streaming so it doesn't really earn BR any points.[/QUOTE]
Streaming makes blu-rays pointless for a lot of people. Besides the higher video bit rate, the only advantage that comes to mind is lossless multichannel audio, and not a lot of people have the right speakers to hear the difference
I think it comes down to the area, issue is Blu-Ray players are still pretty expensive in comparison to DVD players which you can pick up for like £10 so it would depend on if the area is willing to spend more on the quality, also if people have never seen a blu-ray before they are probably unaware of the vastly superior difference
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[QUOTE=halfer;46660094]Streaming makes blu-rays pointless for a lot of people. Besides the higher video bit rate, the only advantage that comes to mind is lossless multichannel audio, and not a lot of people have the right speakers to hear the difference[/QUOTE]
I don't think I have ever found a streaming service that can out quality a Blu-Ray, both in the audio and visual perspective.
If the question was "has 3D blu-ray taken off" then I would say partially, I love them but I know some people wont even bother with them.
Streaming has taken over these past few years. They're still vital for quality purists though.
Yes, because they're used in PS3/PS4/Xbones.
[QUOTE=lordofdafood;46660738]I think it comes down to the area, issue is Blu-Ray players are still pretty expensive in comparison to DVD players which you can pick up for like £10 so it would depend on if the area is willing to spend more on the quality, also if people have never seen a blu-ray before they are probably unaware of the vastly superior difference
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I don't think I have ever found a streaming service that can out quality a Blu-Ray, both in the audio and visual perspective.
If the question was "has 3D blu-ray taken off" then I would say partially, I love them but I know some people wont even bother with them.[/QUOTE]
Depends on what you mean with "streaming service". I mean a NAS device with a nice 7200RPM HDD should output Full HD over the wire just fine.
[QUOTE=Scot;46660749]Streaming has taken over these past few years. They're still vital for quality purists though.[/QUOTE]
I think Blu-ray became the segway. Like, VHS had its time, DVDs had its time. Blu-ray just kinda introduced the Full HD stuff properly but it never had its time to shine.
Blu-ray is still expensive relative to DVD. Even Blu-ray burners are still extremely expensive.
If it hadn't taken off, they'd already have stopped selling them in masses.
Maybe if they'd stop packaging DVDs and 3D Blurays and regular Blurays and UV digital download codes together they wouldn't be so expensive and more people would buy them.
I'm buying the Bluray, why do I need a DVD too?
[QUOTE=TheLolrus;46661304]Maybe if they'd stop packaging DVDs and 3D Blurays and regular Blurays and UV digital download codes together they wouldn't be so expensive and more people would buy them.
I'm buying the Bluray, why do I need a DVD too?[/QUOTE]
I never understood that, it's like packaging a cheap burger with a really expensive steak... pointless.
[QUOTE=TheLolrus;46661304]Maybe if they'd stop packaging DVDs and 3D Blurays and regular Blurays and UV digital download codes together they wouldn't be so expensive and more people would buy them.
I'm buying the Bluray, why do I need a DVD too?[/QUOTE]
I can see the point when its like a TV show that was shot in Standard Definition being put in a boxset with Blu-rays for the rest of the show that was shot in HD. But I totally agree with the example you give.
Which leads me to the next point, while VHS to DVD was relatively straight forward (Hell even stuff made on video looks better on DVD given the right treatment) the problem with DVD to Blu-ray is that some stuff is just not worth putting on Blu-ray due to the fore-mentioned fact that they were shot in standard definition possibly even on videotape so it is pointless to bring it over and also run the risk of misleading the public.
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;46661964]While yes you could argue that digital downloads aren't for everyone and nor are streaming services (I'm talking like people who can't afford to wait on their craptastic internet or non at all or just simply can't afford to shed their precious data cap)[/QUOTE]
this is a big thing for me, I can't rely on streaming stuff like Spotify or Netflix, most of my media is locally stored
I just realized how cheap Blu-Ray (the disc itself) has become.
You can get a writer for like $60 and a 5-pack of 25GB discs for $4. So I'm not sure why it hasnt took off as a archiving format.
Movies still cost around $25-30 here, which is alright but Disney just announced they wont be bringing any of their (including subsidiaries like Marvel) new releases here starting with the Guardians of the Galaxy.
The fuck. I know this is the golden land of piracy but you dont leave us much choice. It's gonna be all 2009 again when I had to order stuff from abroad or buy them when I was out there.
I still don't have anything that can read BD disks.
Blu-Ray is fairly popular amongst the "general population", but anyone that knows anything about technology is just going to be using streaming, or download services.
[QUOTE=Adam.GameDev;46659627]Blu Ray and DVD both have DRM[/QUOTE]
You might as well say DVDs don't have DRM since it's so easily bypassed.
BD DRM on the other hand is ridiculously intrusive and invasive that it's easier to buy the BD movie, rip it to a file with AnyDVD HD and then watch it. because fuck BD players and them jacking around with the system or deciding to not run at all because it doesn't like my hardware.
Blu-ray is great in countries like Australia where the internet is shit. But the issues ive had are with the software.
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[QUOTE=GiGaBiTe;46662843]You might as well say DVDs don't have DRM since it's so easily bypassed.
BD DRM on the other hand is ridiculously intrusive and invasive that it's easier to buy the BD movie, rip it to a file with AnyDVD HD and then watch it. because fuck BD players and them jacking around with the system or deciding to not run at all because it doesn't like my hardware.[/QUOTE]PowerDVD keeps telling me to update the GPU driver despite having the latest one.
[QUOTE=Kecske;46662454]I just realized how cheap Blu-Ray (the disc itself) has become.
You can get a writer for like $60 and a 5-pack of 25GB discs for $4. So I'm not sure why it hasnt took off as a archiving format.[/QUOTE]
Because in some cases, [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_Tape-Open]tapes are still popular[/url] for archiving in businesses.
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Cost-wise, all I'm finding is "1.3 cents per gigabyte". But to give them credit, those LTOs can hold up to [url=http://www.lto.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/ValueProp_Capacity.pdf]2.5TB[/url].
inc 4k blu-rays now.
i've bought at least 150 blu-rays since buying my new TV in March.
i'd opt for streaming, but I like physical copies, plus I'd have something to take with me on the go or if the net went down. I never buy blu-rays over $10 though, like ever.
and usually I buy the combo packs, with the DVD and ultraviolet or digital copies.
[QUOTE=Kecske;46662454]I just realized how cheap Blu-Ray (the disc itself) has become.
You can get a writer for like $60 and a 5-pack of 25GB discs for $4. So I'm not sure why it hasnt took off as a archiving format.
Movies still cost around $25-30 here, which is alright but Disney just announced they wont be bringing any of their (including subsidiaries like Marvel) new releases here starting with the Guardians of the Galaxy.
The fuck. I know this is the golden land of piracy but you dont leave us much choice. It's gonna be all 2009 again when I had to order stuff from abroad or buy them when I was out there.[/QUOTE]I've heard something about BD-XL disc being 100GB with 4 layers, but I don't know if that took off.
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[QUOTE=Stonecycle;46664086]Because in some cases, [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_Tape-Open]tapes are still popular[/url] for archiving in businesses.
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Cost-wise, all I'm finding is "1.3 cents per gigabyte". But to give them credit, those LTOs can hold up to [url=http://www.lto.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/ValueProp_Capacity.pdf]2.5TB[/url].[/QUOTE]TV Stations/Networks sill use [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDCAM#HDCAM_SR]HD Tape[/url] for internal source formats. I think it holds a fair bit of data, it's compatible and with RS422 controllers and it's also rugged. But given that the earthquake in Japan effected tape production, companies have been moving away from it since 2011.
iirc Facebook was going to back up everything on bluray disks. Or did already. Something like that.
see, this i find worth it.
[url]http://www.amazon.com/Robocop-Blu-ray-Joel-Kinnaman/dp/B00JL6L4WC?tag=slicinc-20&ascsubtag=741aad2b77574eac9e48786e43a2c359[/url]
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and those are the deals I buy, which I just did.
[QUOTE=ClaBrendon;46664748]see, this i find worth it.
[url]http://www.amazon.com/Robocop-Blu-ray-Joel-Kinnaman/dp/B00JL6L4WC?tag=slicinc-20&ascsubtag=741aad2b77574eac9e48786e43a2c359[/url]
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and those are the deals I buy, which I just did.[/QUOTE]
Can you get the original at that price? Because that remake sucked.
[QUOTE=RoboChimp2;46663798]PowerDVD keeps telling me to update the GPU driver despite having the latest one.[/QUOTE]
If my 21" CRT is plugged into my system, it will refuse to work and purposefully go out of its way and use extra CPU time to degrade the picture quality to 480p.
They also stop supporting versions of their software (ie. adding new decryption keys so you can watch new BD releases) after a year or two and force you to rebuy a $100+ new copy.
[QUOTE=Stonecycle;46664086]Because in some cases, [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_Tape-Open]tapes are still popular[/url] for archiving in businesses.
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Cost-wise, all I'm finding is "1.3 cents per gigabyte". But to give them credit, those LTOs can hold up to [url=http://www.lto.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/ValueProp_Capacity.pdf]2.5TB[/url].[/QUOTE]
There were experimental 16 layer BD discs that could hold up to 400 GB but I don't think those ever gained much traction.
[QUOTE=RoboChimp2;46664866]Can you get the original at that price? Because that remake sucked.[/QUOTE]
no, but for $6 can't really go wrong.
agreed though. original was way better.
[QUOTE=GiGaBiTe;46665265]If my 21" CRT is plugged into my system, it will refuse to work and purposefully go out of its way and use extra CPU time to degrade the picture quality to 480p.
They also stop supporting versions of their software (ie. adding new decryption keys so you can watch new BD releases) after a year or two and force you to rebuy a $100+ new copy.
There were experimental 16 layer BD discs that could hold up to 400 GB but I don't think those ever gained much traction.[/QUOTE]I downloaded a trial of the latest PowerDVD and it still says I need to updated the GPU driver for some reason. Doesn't make any sense to me.
The PowerDVD I had in 2009 had no issues until it needed updating in 2011, I used to use my Sony G420 19inch CRT at 1920x1440, Movies looked amazing.
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