Oh my god that bit where he ranted about the terrible partner AI and stopped counting at 50 shots for her to kill one enemy out in the open
[QUOTE=Dr.Critic;47381904]Oh my god that bit where he ranted about the terrible partner AI and stopped counting at 50 shots for her to kill one enemy out in the open[/QUOTE]
That's always been a thing, go to any FPS that isn't a simulation and you're rarely meet an AI that actually can kill shit.
[editline]23rd March 2015[/editline]
Also, someone didn't see the Bad Company vibes from the Multiplayer.
This actually makes me wish for a good singleplayer cop game now.
[QUOTE=Kljunas;47382233]This actually makes me wish for a good singleplayer cop game now.[/QUOTE]This reminds me. When they released SP trailer I commented that it looked good. I was wrong.
[QUOTE=Kljunas;47382233]This actually makes me wish for a good singleplayer cop game now.[/QUOTE]
I want a game like SWAT 4 that's just a bit less clunky
[QUOTE=Kljunas;47382233]This actually makes me wish for a good singleplayer cop game now.[/QUOTE]
The first thing that comes to my mind is Sleeping Dogs.
[QUOTE=Dr.Critic;47381904]Oh my god that bit where he ranted about the terrible partner AI and stopped counting at 50 shots for her to kill one enemy out in the open[/QUOTE]
Be honest though in a fps like this do you really want the ai taking your kills?
[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;47382882]Be honest though in a fps like this do you really want the ai taking your kills?[/QUOTE]
If it's point-based like this is, it's one thing, but in a game where points either are just for score rather than unlocks, or there's no points at all, i'd rather have teammates that aren't functionally useless.
And i was going to buy it. Guess i dodged a fucking bullet there.
[QUOTE=Devil Traitor;47382566]The first thing that comes to my mind is Sleeping Dogs.[/QUOTE]
Nah.
It's a damn good game but the main focus was on infiltrating the triads rather than being a cop.
It was more like GTA in Hong Kong as an undercover cop than an actual [i]cop game.[/i]
I'd love something like the Hardline singleplayer done right and of course in an open-world setting.
[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;47382882]Be honest though in a fps like this do you really want the ai taking your kills?[/QUOTE]Yes? It doesn't need to be an aimbotting terminator but something better than someone with a BB gun.
$60 for this? From what the game was supposed to be like, I expected it to be $20 at best. Beta wasn't interesting because the missions were over so quickly and I didn't feel like I was playing a cop. I made the right choice and not buying this game.
Remember when people were saying this game was going to kill PAYDAY 2, despite them both being different games entirely?
If anything, with people responding to modern military shooters like this these days, I think it's a sign of two things regarding the FPS. Either a new subgenre will emerge at some point, or the rise of an older subgenre (like the arena shooter) will happen.
Given how people seem to be responding well to games like TOXIKK and the new UT, I'm willing to bet on the latter.
[QUOTE=DudesonFan;47383109]And i was going to buy it. Guess i dodged a fucking bullet there.
Nah.
It's a damn good game but the main focus was on infiltrating the triads rather than being a cop.
It was more like GTA in Hong Kong as an undercover cop than an actual [i]cop game.[/i]
I'd love something like the Hardline singleplayer done right and of course in an open-world setting.[/QUOTE]
Shit, a massive part of Sleeping Dogs is that your guy gets really fucking conflicted about being a Cop or being a Triad after getting back into it all. Pretty damn cliche for what it's worth, but it doesn't really work as a classic cop vs. baddies game.
[editline]24th March 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=maddogsamurai;47383403]$60 for this? From what the game was supposed to be like, I expected it to be $20 at best. Beta wasn't interesting because the missions were over so quickly and I didn't feel like I was playing a cop. I made the right choice and not buying this game.[/QUOTE]
$20? Damn, people are really lowballing their game prices today aren't they.
It'd probably sit around the $30-$45 mark if they were touting it like say, Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon, a smaller game spun off the latest big release that has nothing to do with that release. It does seem like a standalone expansion kind of game, and that's disappointing, I was kinda hoping Visceral would do more with the story.
[QUOTE=Devil Traitor;47382566]The first thing that comes to my mind is Sleeping Dogs.[/QUOTE]
The cop missions were boring as hell in Sleeping Dogs, and even though you were playing as an undercover cop trying to infiltrate the triads, Wei would always get caught between two sides, and that pretty much became the secondary focus of the storyline.
[QUOTE=Swilly;47381990]That's always been a thing, go to any FPS that isn't a simulation and you're rarely meet an AI that actually can kill shit.[/QUOTE]
Medal of Honor Pacific Assault, it's possible if developers actually put some effort into their games.
I didn't hate the multiplayer at all but they could've done it a lot better and all in all I think I'm done buying these annual entries
Should've focused more on making good maps for heist seeing as that's probably the most enjoyable gamemode with good teams- I mean, people don't even play Crosshair or Rescue. Nobody. I've been looking for a server for a few days.
I feel like they lost the message of quality over quantity, basically. Doesn't really matter to them since they still got my 60$, but whatever
Hardline's levels feel like Unreal Tournament levels. Just a very static box with stuff in it. Bad Company 2's levels were good, and they changed drastically over the course of a large fight, with craters from explosions, walls being blown out, buildings tumbling down... they were excessive and worked for just about every structure in the game. Awesome.
Battlefield 3. Less of that, craters still appear, holes can be blown in walls, plenty of houses can be toppled, but LEVOLUTION which is just a single scripted event that happens once per map the same way every time you play it oh joy. Battlefield 4, same as 3 but even less destruction than 3 with the exception of two maps. Hardline.. um... Well you can break windows
Hardline is a technically stripped down expansion pack to Battlefield 4 asking for $35 more than it's worth. That's the best way to describe it
If you want a good Cops & Robbers type game... Swat 3 and Swat 4 are a couple of the best. Both of these games are AMAZING in Co-op with some friends
The last good cop drama game was L.A Noire back in 2011/2012?
I wouldn't mind another new IP with the cop setting again. It's definitely more refreshing then military fighting evil russian terrorists or zombie survival dominating the market.
I don't want to watch a 40 minute video so I was wondering if someone can just sum it up for me.
[QUOTE=Xonax;47386228]I don't want to watch a 40 minute video so I was wondering if someone can just sum it up for me.[/QUOTE]
Basically he said that there was not enough new and interesting content to warrant it being a full-priced standalone game. It also was trying to make Battlefield into something that wouldn't work for the franchise's gameplay and it shows. In the end he gave it a 5/10.
[QUOTE=Xonax;47386228]I don't want to watch a 40 minute video so I was wondering if someone can just sum it up for me.[/QUOTE]
Hardline had hardly any content for the $60 its wanting. Hardline has 4 guns for the mechanic class compared to BF4 that has 30.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;47383184]Yes? It doesn't need to be an aimbotting terminator but something better than someone with a BB gun.[/QUOTE]
and then people would complain that they can beat missions without firing a single shot
[editline]24th March 2015[/editline]
even squad based gameplay (Mass Effect, Spec Ops, Rainbow Six) has useless teammates unless you tell them to do something
nobody wants to play a game where your AI teammates can kill by themselves, that's retarded
I agree, Hardline isn't as good as Battlefield 4; it's noticeably better and a higher quality offering.
[QUOTE=Dr.Critic;47381904]Oh my god that bit where he ranted about the terrible partner AI and stopped counting at 50 shots for her to kill one enemy out in the open[/QUOTE]
You shouldn't ever buy a battlefield game with the key aim being to play singleplayer.
Battlefield just isn't a singleplayer series and it's the wrong series to look into if you're someone that enjoys singleplayer games
[QUOTE=Raidyr;47386786]I agree, Hardline isn't as good as Battlefield 4; it's noticeably better and a higher quality offering.[/QUOTE]
I know taste in games is opinion but it's objectively far worse than BF4.
[QUOTE=ImperialGuard;47387956]I know taste in games is opinion but it's objectively far worse than BF4.[/QUOTE]BF4 has tons of content compared to Hardline for same price. Hardline feels like Battlefield Lite but costs like a complete one.
[QUOTE=ImperialGuard;47387956]I know taste in games is opinion but it's objectively far worse than BF4.[/QUOTE]
How do you define "objectively worse"? Because when it comes to technical aspects like how well the game runs and how well the network copes with the action, Hardline is undeniably in a much better spot at launch than Battlefield 4 ever was. BF4 was garbage, one of the worst launch experiences I've had for a AAA game. It was so bad it made longtime Battlefield friends of mine quit the series because they paid $60 for a facelift to Battlefield 3 that didn't even run as well. Meanwhile Hardline runs smooth as butter and the hit detection is markedly better. I don't care what anyone thinks about how much Hardline should have cost with the amount of content it came with (though frankly Joes $15 price point is absurd and I'm sure even he knows that) but from a sheer quality assurance standpoint, Hardline is the best launched Battlefield game I've played that I can remember, while Battlefield 4 was one of the worst video game launches I've ever had to endure.
[editline]24th March 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=itisjuly;47388036]BF4 has tons of content compared to Hardline for same price. Hardline feels like Battlefield Lite but costs like a complete one.[/QUOTE]
Yeah cool Battlefield 4 had 8 guns for engineer half of which were ports from Battlefield 3 too bad you couldn't use them because you crashed every 3 minutes and none of your bullets worked anyway.
I quantify the quality of a product not by how much shit is in it but how well that shit works, and shit just works in Hardline a hell of a lot better than it works in Battlefield 4.
WOOP WOOP! IT'S NOT IN THE GAME! rofl
Hardline bores me, everything I liked about battlefield has been stripped out or toned down.
I usually found vehicle whoring in BF4 to be super annoying, but now that they're all paper its basically just an infantry war which I get tired of after a few hours. The only thing I liked is it feels like air power is properly balanced in that department.
Also one of my favorite guns is a preorder bonus/deluxe edition thing. This game can get fucked
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