How religion (and blasphemy) is giving me problems
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--- Originally sent as an anonymous confession, but felt like it deserved more attention.
[QUOTE]I'm a 15 year old male.
I was born in a catholic family, I was taught catholic precepts since I was a child.
For about 11 years, I didn't really care about my religion.
I didn't often go to church, and the few times I went there I always found it boring and unnecessary.
Before going to sleep I would pray god to keep me and my family happy and alive.
When I was about 12-13 I started asking myself questions about god. Also, me being a internet addict, I
started browsing YouTube and started looking at videos of atheists fighting against theists and viceversa.
At first, I thought the atheists were right. But then, since I was stupid and ignorant, I got convinced
that atheists were wrong by VenomFangX. For those who don't know who VenomFangX is, I can only tell you
he was a crazy christian with crazy and ignorants ideas and facts. He just convinced me because I was
young and easily manipulable.
In September, school started again. I was going at catholic high school at the time, and it was
new for me. New people, new teachers, etc. 75% of my male classmates were atheists and liked to swear to god,
write blaspheme things, etc. I first thought they were wrong and were going to burn in hell, but I tried reasoning
with them, and, being an open-minded guy, I started looking on the internet about reasons and proof about the
existance of god. After some months I was totally convinced a god couldn't exist. I still am. I'm an atheist.
Now, me and my friends did crazy blaspheme shit. Being my school a catholic one, we had a nun teaching us religion.
She was very old, stupid, didn't make us study anything and let us do anything. She was that kind of nun who didn't understand
a fuck. Once, one of my friends brought a bible to the religion hour and some food. He ate the food in front of the nun,
then ripped some pages from the bible and cleaned up his mouth/hands. The nun didn't notice anything. I found that hilarious.
Well, if anyone would have discovered that we were atheists and did blaspheme stuff we would've been kicked from the school.
In the country I live in, we can "curse to god" in a very offensive way. I will refer to that as "cursing" for the rest of
the confession.
Anyway, time passed. We liked to curse, to write curses, etc.
Once, one of my friends pulled a prank on me: while I was in the bathroom he wrote some curses on my maths book. When I
came back from the bathroom my friend asked me to take a look at my book and I saw the curses. We laughed, and I was about
to erase them. However the teacher called me to the blackboard. After that, me and my friend both forgot about the curses.
Some time later, my family found out about them. They were very pissed off and I lied to them: "I don't know anything about
this stuff, or anyone that could've done this."
They wanted to show the curses to the school manager but I convinced them otherwise.
Two months have passed, and they found another piece of paper with curses on it. This time, however, there was more than
curses written on the piece of paper: "666", "Kill the pope", a satanist star. And mostly important some stuff written
in english (I live in a non-english speaking country): "Jesus under acid rain without an umbrella". We wrote this stupid
shit around the beginning of the school year, and I didn't realize I still had the piece of paper.
I'm really fucked now. My family really wants to show both this and the other curses to the school manager. I told them
again that I didn't know anything about them. The sentence written in english is one of the biggest problem: only me and
another guy can speak english fluently and compose sentences like that (yeah my classmates are stupid), and the other guy
is the friend who wrote that. Also, they can always check the handwriting. I wrote some of the curses and my friends wrote
more. Checking the handwriting and realizing that the sentence written in english could only be written by certain people
will probably get us caught.
What do I do? I realize we've been stupid.
I can either:
1. Confess to my family I'm an atheist and convince them that I made a mistake and I won't curse again. Without revealing the
friends who did this with me.
2. Keep lying and hope they don't bring anything to the school manager.
3. Take the piece of paper with the curses and destroy it. Then lie about its disappearence.[/QUOTE]
Bonus fourth option: if my parents ever say stuff about the piece of paper again I tell them I wrote it in a bad moment of my life where I thought there was no god, but then after a while realized I've been stupid and that I'm very sorry for it and I was too scared to tell them at the beginning. I'm sorry blah blah
catholic church fucks you up and they're not really fun, attend a Baptist church before making your confession to your parents my heavenly brother.
god bless
This guy lives in Italy. Here we curse to god in every sentence.
Like english people say "fuck" or "shit".
Ah ha ha VenomFangX, that crazy stupid motherfucker. And tell them you're an atheist, hope you have a good family and they don't disown you for it.
you should pray to god for forgiveness as you have sinned and are hellbound
im sorry but your only option is to live out the rest of your days piously
Congrats, starting another religion war thread.
On topic: Tell your parents how you feel, get over it, and move on.
You should go with the first option, you're in enough trouble as it is now without lying to everyone.
I've talked to my friends and they told me the best thing to do is wait for my parents to say something else about the piece of paper, then I will tell them that I had an "atheism moment" and I regret that. I will tell them I'm sorry and I've already prayed god for forgiveness, also that I don't want to reveal the names of the others who did that because I've talked with them and we agreed that we were stupid and we won't do anything like that ever again.
Chances are my parents will never tell the school manager anything, so I'll keep an eye on them, and if they want to do something I will tell them what I wrote above.
I don't really feel like confessing to my parents because knowing them they would just bring me to a priest or just be pissed off and won't let me go out. They're 'that' close-minded.
Grow a pair of stones and tell them you looked at evidence and don't believe in a god, sit down calmly explain to them why you feel that way and hope you can see it from your point of view and admit that you were being fucking retarded, just cause you're an atheist doesn't mean you have to start writing shit like "Hurp durp jesus in acid rain hurpy durpy derrr"
Tell them the thing about you being in a bad part of your life and not believing in god at that point. You're still young and you still live in their house. It'll be living shit if they A)know you're atheist or B)find out you're lying about stuff and trying to conceal that you believe these things.
Seriously, just tell them that you're atheist when you're out of the house and on your own. It's the best thing to do.
Remember, you're just lying to spare both yourself [I]and[/I] them misery, and they'll find out later when you tell them. It's not a big deal.
[QUOTE=bravehat;23514142]Grow a pair of stones and tell them you looked at evidence and don't believe in a god, sit down calmly explain to them why you feel that way and hope you can see it from your point of view and admit that you were being fucking retarded, just cause you're an atheist doesn't mean you have to start writing shit like "Hurp durp jesus in acid rain hurpy durpy derrr"[/QUOTE]
True we didn't have to write that stuff. It was just for shits n' giggles. I would tell them the truth but they wouldn't understand. They're close minded. Seriously. They believe that the devil can enter in people's souls and make them do bad things. They believe that holy water has MAGICAL POWERS so they pour it every-fucking-where. Everywhere, I'm not shitting you. My house is full of pictures of Jesus and Holy Mary. I have about 6 pictures in the wall right behind my monitor, then more behind me and at my sides. One of my family member walks around the house with a book of prayers ALL THE FUCKING DAY. When they see that something bad happened on TV they say "WE SHOULD PRAY FOR THEM!". Once there was heavy rain and the house was a little damaged, so some water got in the walls. A face-like figure appeared (because of the water) and they were like "IT'S JESUS TAKE PHOTOS FAST!".
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Age of majority is 18 in Italy. Fuck. Idk what to tell you bro, I guess just be happy you don't do that crazy shit, and realize there's a lot more people out there that think like you (except with the whole cursing thing kinda not necessary)?
EDIT: And yea I would suggest lying in this situation, you could stand up for your "principles" but it seems like it would do a lot more bad than good with the kind of family you've got. Not that lying is good, but the alternative looks worse
Just tell them you're an atheist and refuse to go to Church. The family row will probably give you a headache.
Alternatively, say you're Catholic and deal with Catholicism until you leave your home, which will be a massive headache to you.
[QUOTE=SupahVee;23514195]True we didn't have to write that stuff. It was just for shits n' giggles. I would tell them the truth but they wouldn't understand. They're close minded. Seriously. They believe that the devil can enter in people's souls and make them do bad things. They believe that holy water has MAGICAL POWERS so they pour it every-fucking-where. Everywhere, I'm not shitting you. My house is full of pictures of Jesus and Holy Mary. I have about 6 pictures in the wall right behind my monitor, then more behind me and at my sides. One of my family member walks around the house with a book of prayers ALL THE FUCKING DAY. When they see that something bad happened on TV they say "WE SHOULD PRAY FOR THEM!". Once there was heavy rain and the house was a little damaged, so some water got in the walls. A face-like figure appeared (because of the water) and they were like "IT'S JESUS TAKE PHOTOS FAST!".
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:lol:
Oh wow that's fucking glorious.
Then lie, lie through your teeth, and make it a ludicrous lie, so ludicrous it has to be true, one of the atheist devils nicknamed legion wrote them all in your book, or a muslim you might be able to start a crusade that way :v:
[QUOTE=bravehat;23514253]:lol:
Oh wow that's fucking glorious.
Then lie, lie through your teeth, and make it a ludicrous lie, so ludicrous it has to be true, one of the atheist devils nicknamed legion wrote them all in your book, or a muslim you might be able to start a crusade that way :v:[/QUOTE]
Idk, i'd say don't overdo the lie, we don't want an exorcism happening up in here
Tell your parents you didn't write them you don't know who did and tell them to cram religion up their arseholes.
Excorcism is fine as long as he ain't the one getting excorcised :v:
[QUOTE=bravehat;23514311]Excorcism is fine as long as he ain't the one getting excorcised :v:[/QUOTE]
That's what I meant, we don't want him to be the target of that holy water. Though you could throw your friend under the bus and say he's in league with the devil and forced you to write such reprehensible things through his demonic powers, and watch his ass get exorcised. It'd be good for shits and giggles
VenomFangX?
Haha your silly.
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;23514329]That's what I meant, we don't want him to be the target of that holy water. Though you could throw your friend under the bus and say he's in league with the devil and forced you to write such reprehensible things through his demonic powers, and watch his ass get exorcised. It'd be good for shits and giggles[/QUOTE]
Why not, it would be pretty funny to have holy water thrown at you and some priest shout "the power of christ compels thee!" at you and you just writhe around in pain for a few seconds then get up and get a towle and dry off and just say "stop doing that you're just being retarded now" :colbert:
I would tell the truth.
If they hate you for it, move out as soon as possible. Parents are supposed to love their children regardless of religious, political or sexual orientation. If they can't, then they're shit parents.
Still, it's up to you to decide.
you could always grow a pair and tell your fucking family you're an atheist.
[QUOTE=bravehat;23514425]Why not, it would be pretty funny to have holy water thrown at you and some priest shout "the power of christ compels thee!" at you and you just writhe around in pain for a few seconds then get up and get a towle and dry off and just say "stop doing that you're just being retarded now" :colbert:[/QUOTE]
Actual exorcisms are a tad different than The Exorcist. Being abused and screamed at by friends and family for hours on end trying to beat/chase out some non-existent devil isn't a laughing matter
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:colbert:
I gave you an funny rating for the story, trying to find proof of god on the internet.
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;23514468]Actual exorcisms are a tad different than The Exorcist. Being abused and screamed at by friends and family for hours on end trying to beat/chase out some non-existent devil isn't a laughing matter
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:colbert:[/QUOTE]
Then you beat em back and tell em since they are being barbaric bastards you're holding your ground.
Don't be a little bitch. Man up and say you're an atheist.
Tell them you fucked a nun too.
[QUOTE=bravehat;23514588]Then you beat em back and tell em since they are being barbaric bastards you're holding your ground.[/QUOTE]
Then you end up getting the "devil" beat out of you more for doing such demonic things.
Then break the priests jaw and make him eat fucking pavement :argh:
Then you're just fucking dead now look where you've gotten us :saddowns:
Stand up for your Atheism. Refuse to be knocked around because they don't approve of what a thinking individual decides.
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