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DECANI, Kosovo (Reuters) - Kosovo Albanian protesters hurled stones at an armored motorcade carrying Serbian President Boris Tadic Friday as he marked Orthodox Christmas in the former Serbian province, where Serb-Albanian tensions have resurfaced.
Kosovo's population is 90 percent ethnic Albanian, and it became the last state to emerge from the remains of federal Yugoslavia when it declared independence from Serbia in 2008.
Serbia rejects the secession, and tensions have been rising since July last year when Kosovo's government tried to stamp its authority on a largely lawless slice of north Kosovo inhabited by minority Serbs.
A crowd of some 200 Kosovo Albanians in the western town of Decani lobbed stones at Tadic's convoy, which was escorted by officers of the European Union's police and justice mission in Kosovo.
Kosovo police secured the route, jostling with protesters to keep them back from the road. The convoy managed to enter the grounds of the Decani Orthodox monastery, where Tadic will mark Serbian Orthodox Christmas.
"A number of stones were thrown, a number of cars received minor damage. President Boris Tadic's car was not hit," said Nicholas Hawton, spokesman for the EU mission, EULEX.
Tadic traditionally visits the 14th century marble monastery in Decani to mark Serbian Orthodox Christmas on January 7.
Steeped in Serb history and myth, Kosovo is dotted with centuries-old Orthodox religious sites and considered by many Serbs as the cradle of their nation.
But Serbia lost control over the territory in 1999 when NATO bombed it for 11 weeks to halt the killing and expulsion of Albanian civilians by Serb forces fighting a two-year counter-insurgency war under then strongman Slobodan Milosevic.
Previous visits by Tadic have generally passed without incident.
But a row between Serbia and Kosovo over trade and control of a disputed stretch of the border between them has triggered violence in north Kosovo between minority Serbs and NATO peacekeepers over the past six months.
The spike in tensions last month cost Serbia official candidate status for membership of the European Union.[/release]
[URL]http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-kosovo-serbiatre8051kh-20120106,0,5639516.story[/URL]
Why can't everyone just get along :(
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;34080625]
Why can't everyone just get along :([/QUOTE]
Because if everyone just got along, this world would be one boring place.
But seriously, you'd think people would be using more advanced weapons to attack a president than with rocks.
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;34080625]
Why can't everyone just get along :([/QUOTE]
Probably because of the huge atrocities committed in the 90s in the Balkans
Well Serbia gave independence to everyone in the region that had a right to get independence. Kosovo is a different story and there's a fucking reason why Kosovo is not recognised internationally as a sovereign country unlike, per say, Montenegro.
Kosovo is a part of Serbia, no matter what the Serbs have done in the past, it still is, was and will be part of Serbia.
Serbia gets so much shit.
please be nice with serbia
Fucking savages, why didn't we let the Serbs finish the job?
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[QUOTE=Crhem van der B;34080716]Well Serbia gave independence to everyone in the region that had a right to get independence. Kosovo is a different story and there's a fucking reason why Kosovo is not recognised internationally as a sovereign country unlike, per say, Montenegro.
Kosovo is a part of Serbia, no matter what the Serbs have done in the past, it still is, was and will be part of Serbia.[/QUOTE]
oh and what the fuck is that reason
also it is recognized by all the important countries the in Western world
[quote]As of 30 December 2011, 86 UN states recognise the independence of Kosovo and it has become a member country of the IMF and World Bank as the Republic of Kosovo.[/quote]
Albanians (Kosovo Albanians in this case) are really nothing more than violent gypsies of the Balkan world.
[QUOTE=Contag;34080800]oh and what the fuck is that reason
also it is recognized by all the important countries the in Western world[/QUOTE]
I'll explain it to you so even you can understand, it's as if Malaysians would take over Canberra and proclaim it an independent republic.
[QUOTE=Gentlemanne;34080837]I'll explain it to you so even you can understand, it's as if Malaysians would take over Canberra and proclaim it an independent republic.[/QUOTE]
translation:
"I can't explain it properly because I'm a fucking idiot, so have this incredibly hyperbolic bullshit"
[editline]7th January 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=FPChris;34080740]Serbia gets so much shit.
please be nice with serbia[/QUOTE]
Serbia might get a bit less shit if they didn't use the same vicious and brutally violent methods as their enemies did during the Balkans conflicts
oh god his name is Boris and everything
[QUOTE=Crhem van der B;34080716]Well Serbia gave independence to everyone in the region that had a right to get independence. Kosovo is a different story and there's a fucking reason why Kosovo is not recognised internationally as a sovereign country unlike, per say, Montenegro.
Kosovo is a part of Serbia, no matter what the Serbs have done in the past, it still is, was and will be part of Serbia.[/QUOTE]
Not according to the United Nations.
[QUOTE=Contag;34080911]translation:
"I can't explain it properly because I'm a fucking idiot, so have this incredibly hyperbolic bullshit"[/QUOTE]
Kosovo is the historical Serb heartland and remained Serb in character even after they had to swear vassalage to the Ottomans, enduring systematic oppression, murder, kidnapping and pillaging by the Ottoman authorities until the Ottomans got the bright idea to settle Albanians by the cartloads, since Albanians, a more servile people, had no compunctions about taking it in the ass from the Sultan.
Or 3.5 fifths of the United Nations Security Council
[editline]7th January 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Gentlemanne;34080999]Kosovo is the historical Serb heartland and remained Serb in character, enduring systematic oppression, murder, kidnapping and pillaging by the Ottoman authorities until the Ottomans got the bright idea to settle Albanians by the cartloads, since Albanians, [B]a more servile people[/B], had no compunctions about taking it in the ass from the Sultan.[/QUOTE]
I'd take your posts seriously if you weren't being extremely racist.
Historical claims don't count for shit in international politics
If Serbians in Kosovo were treated like normal people, then I'd have no qualms with Kosovo as a sovereign state.
Until then I feel UNMIK should be put back in place with greater enforcement measures, backed by NATO involvement until they can sort their shit out
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;34080979]Not according to the United Nations.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but proper countries get recognised by 100% of the world (or 99%). Kosovo is not recognised by everyone, thus it is a part of Serbia. Unless Serbia it self recognises Kosovo independence, Kosovo will never truly be independent.
As I said before, for some reason Serbia agreed on Montenegro's independence, however, they do not recognise Kosovo for shit. I think that says something, now does it?
No, not really.
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I'd take your posts seriously if you weren't being extremely racist.[/QUOTE]
Maybe I expressed myself coarsely, but it doesn't make it any less true.
[QUOTE=Contag;34081002]Historical claims don't count for shit in international politics[/QUOTE]
So you're arguing for might makes right?
[QUOTE=Contag;34081002]If Serbians in Kosovo were treated like normal people, then I'd have no qualms with Kosovo as a sovereign state.[/QUOTE]
And now you're a humanitarian? Make up your mind.
[QUOTE=Contag;34081002]Until then I feel UNMIK should be put back in place with greater enforcement measures, backed by NATO involvement until they can sort their shit out[/QUOTE]
Placing a peacekeeping force will only stall the issue. The issue being Albanians occupying Kosovo. As long as either Serbs or Kosovo Albanians exist, this issue will not be resolved.
[QUOTE=Gentlemanne;34081335]
So you're arguing for might makes right?[/quote]
That's how the system works
[quote]
And now you're a humanitarian? Make up your mind.[/quote]
What are you talking about?
[quote]
Placing a peacekeeping force will only stall the issue. The issue being Albanians occupying Kosovo. As long as either Serbs or Kosovo Albanians exist, this issue will not be resolved.[/QUOTE]
well you've got a big fucking problem when there are only 5% ethnic serbs left in Kosovo
[QUOTE=Contag;34081391]That's how the system works[/QUOTE]
I'm not disputing that.
[QUOTE=Contag;34081391]What are you talking about?[/QUOTE]
You seem confused, first you argue that morality should not be a factor and then you say that you'd support the Albanians if they acted morally towards the Serbs.
[QUOTE=Contag;34081391]well you've got a big fucking problem when there are only 5% ethnic serbs left in Kosovo[/QUOTE]
There's a few more of them in the rest of Serbia.
[QUOTE=Gentlemanne;34080746]Fucking savages, why didn't we let the Serbs finish the job?[/QUOTE]
Yeah man 8000 men and teenagers wasn't enough, they should have just killed everyone forever ever maaaan
oh excuse me 11000 civilians in Kosovo on top of that
[QUOTE=Crhem van der B;34081260]Yeah, but proper countries get recognised by 100% of the world (or 99%). Kosovo is not recognised by everyone, thus it is a part of Serbia. Unless Serbia it self recognises Kosovo independence, Kosovo will never truly be independent.[/QUOTE]
That's not true at all. Only 23 countries officially recognize the existence of the Republic of China/Taiwan, and it's a proper country. Are you going to tell me that Taiwan isn't a country, just because the majority of the world doesn't officially recognize it? Conversely, the ROC does not recognize China/PRC.
Israel isn't recognized by 32 UN states. North Korea isn't recognized by Japan or S. Korea.
Kosovo has all the major nations recognizing it, either officially or not. The only thing stopping them from being a sovereign nation is Serbia. I'm not familiar with the conflict with Kosovo or the politics behind it, so I can't say for certain that they should or should not be a separate nation, but they have the backing of much of the world. Enough of the world.
[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];34081537']text.[/QUOTE]
Read the thread if you'd like some perspective.
[QUOTE=Gentlemanne;34080746]Fucking savages, why didn't we let the Serbs finish the job?[/QUOTE]
Condoning genocide. Nice.
[QUOTE=Florence;34081614]Condoning genocide. Nice.[/QUOTE]
It's not so much genocide as beating back an invading force. The Albanians have a land of their own, it's called Albania.
[QUOTE=Gentlemanne;34081634]It's not so much genocide as beating back an invading force. The Albanians have a land of their own, it's called Albania.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gornje_Obrinje_massacre[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_at_Velika_Kru%C5%A1a[/url]
Good job beating the invaders.
[QUOTE=Stonecycle;34080660]
But seriously, you'd think people would be using more advanced weapons to attack a president than with rocks.[/QUOTE]
Why? Rocks are cheap and everywhere and usually don't get return fire from defenders
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;34081784][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gornje_Obrinje_massacre[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_at_Velika_Kru%C5%A1a[/url]
Good job beating the invaders.[/QUOTE]
Stepping stone to greatness homie. (I'm liking this thread, hearkens back to the ITN of hallowed antiquity.)
I hoped it was about A Convoy with all its passengers high :smith:
[QUOTE=Crhem van der B;34080716]Well Serbia gave independence to everyone in the region that had a right to get independence. Kosovo is a different story and there's a fucking reason why Kosovo is not recognised internationally as a sovereign country unlike, per say, Montenegro.
Kosovo is a part of Serbia, no matter what the Serbs have done in the past, it still is, was and will be part of Serbia.[/QUOTE]
Gave it? You do realize that we split through war, right?
[QUOTE=Gentlemanne;34081634]It's not so much genocide as beating back an invading force. The Albanians have a land of their own, it's called Albania.[/QUOTE]
Albanians had the whole western Balkan region before the Slavs came in during the Migration Periods after the fall of Rome. If you want to go with the 'historical claims' bullshit argument, you should be supporting Albanians.
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