• French demand Crown Jewels from the English Queen for the 1499 murder of Edward Plantagenet
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[quote]A French city which produced 14 English kings is demanding the Crown Jewels as compensation from the Queen for the murder of its last pretender to the throne. [B]Angers, which is in the Loire Valley west of Paris, was once the capital of the Anjou province and the House of Plantagenet. It ruled England from 1154 until 1485, providing some of the greatest monarchs in British history, including Richard the Lionheart and Henry V.[/B] But when Edward Plantagenet, the Earl of Warwick, was murdered in the Tower of London in 1499 the house's legitimate male line came to an end. 'As redress for the execution of Edward, Angers today demands that the Crown Jewels of England be transferred to Angers,' reads a petition posted on the city's official website. Recalling 25-year-old Edward's 'unfair and horrible death' at the hands of henchmen working for Henry VII, England's first Tudor king, the city believes it is owed an apology – and 513 years' worth of compensation. [B]This would amount to billions in today's currency, but Angers is prepared to accept the coronation jewels to cover it all.[/B] The petition, which has already been signed by hundreds of so-called Angevins, as well as sympathisers around France and other parts of the world, is directed at the Queen. [B]It describes a 'state crime' against a noble line which played a huge role in making Britain great, and wants the jewels to be put on public display at the Saint Aubin tower in Angers.[/B] The Queen, who speaks good French, will be sent the official petition at the beginning of September, during the Accroche-Cœurs, an annual cultural festival in Angers in which street artists conjour up the city's rich history. The fabled Plantagenet name was made popularly famous by William Shakespeare, but many remain unaware that many of those who ruled in its name were more French than English. Richard I, the iconic Lionheart who led the Third Crusade, was born near Oxford but barely spoke a word of English. Instead, he spent much of his life on his Aquitaine estates in south west France, where he died in 1199. Part of Richard's remains are in Fontevraud Abbey, near Angers, while particles of his heart are in Rouen Cathedral, in Brittany. Henry V, the hero of the Battle of Agincourt in 1415, spent the latter part of his life trying to reunite his country's throne with France's before his death in the Château de Vincennes, in the Paris suburbs, in 1422. [B]The current Crown Jewels, which are considered priceless, only date back to the coronation of Charles II – long after the Edward, the Plantagenet pretender, was killed.[/B] Originals coronation jewels which date back further were melted down by Oliver Cromwell following the execution of Charles I in 1649. A spokesman for Angers council admitted that the petition had 'little chance of success' but said the 'crime' against the Angevin monarchs was worth highlighting. He encouraged British people to visit Angers, which has medieval buildings including a magnificent castle which recall the glory days of the Plantagenets. [/Quote] Source: [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2173848/French-demand-Crown-Jewels-Queen-1499-murder-Edward-Plantagenet.html[/url] Daily Mail, I know. Thought it was amusing enough :v:
I'll make sure I take over Angers first every time when I play England in Medieval Total War.
Trolling on city/state level. Classy. I think it's about time for Czech Republic to ask Merkel for a thing or two, too.
Hand over your biggest tourist attraction and I wont be mad
they can have them
Yeah uh... Good luck with that.
First thing that came to my mind, fuck off.
This reminds me of when North Korea demanded reparations from the U.S. totalling slightly more than the GDP of planet Earth.
The Queen can speak french? That's new.
They should blame Oliver Cromwell instead. He turned Britain into a Protestant version of the Taliban for a decade as well as messing with the jewels.
seriously why do we even have crown jewels if they want them so bad I don't see why they can't have them
This is just like my French teacher who honestly believes that the English channel belongs to the French and should be called the French Channel instead.
But we have a different Royal House now so they can't be held accountable for the actions of a completely different Royal House.
[QUOTE=Coffee;36825085]But we have a different Royal House now so they can't be held accountable for the actions of a completely different Royal House.[/QUOTE] Yeah, the house of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. "Foreign foreheads forever" is inscribed on the crown probably.
I'd say they could have them back but it was a completely different bunch of royals and a completely different bunch of jewels so I couldn't justify it.
[quote]He encouraged British people to visit Angers, which has medieval buildings including a magnificent castle which recall the glory days of the Plantagenets.[/quote] So now we've just been given permission to invade Angers. Also, holy shit I just realsied this is the place thats twinned with my town. I think I can sum up the feelings of the british of this demand in one simple sentence: "Fuck off you french frog bastards"
They can have the jewels that King John lost in The Wash.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;36824975]They should blame Oliver Cromwell instead. He turned Britain into a Protestant version of the Taliban for a decade as well as messing with the jewels.[/QUOTE] god if I could travel back in time I would kill two people, Oliver Cromwell(for terrorizing Ireland) and Thomas Edison, because edison is an evil dickhead
[QUOTE=geoface;36826124]god if I could travel back in time I would kill two people, Oliver Cromwell(for terrorizing Ireland) and Thomas Edison, because edison is an evil dickhead[/QUOTE] I'd kill Jesus (as a baby) and Ayn Rand
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;36824976]seriously why do we even have crown jewels if they want them so bad I don't see why they can't have them[/QUOTE] Same reason they're not open to take any of our other historical items. Yes I get it you're anti monarchy for whatever reason you are, but I don't see how that means we should just start giving away valuable historical items left, right and centre
[QUOTE=prooboo;36826247]I'd kill Jesus (as a baby) and Ayn Rand[/QUOTE] hmm i never thought about killing jesus, since it would destroy christianity and mean that science won't be persecuted and hidden away for about 1000 years, meaning we'll be 1000 years ahead of our time in technology. but it's possible jesus didn't even exist so gonna have to kill the first christians
[QUOTE=geoface;36826570]hmm i never thought about killing jesus, since it would destroy christianity and mean that science won't be persecuted and hidden away for about 1000 years, meaning we'll be 1000 years ahead of our time in technology. but it's possible jesus didn't even exist so gonna have to kill the first christians[/QUOTE] I think it'd be much fairer to kill Constantine, I doubt what happened over the years of Catholic dominance were what the early christians really wanted.
[QUOTE=geoface;36826570]hmm i never thought about killing jesus, since it would destroy christianity and mean that science won't be persecuted and hidden away for about 1000 years, meaning we'll be 1000 years ahead of our time in technology. but it's possible jesus didn't even exist so gonna have to kill the first christians[/QUOTE] It would also remove a major catalyst from Medieval Europe. As evil as the Catholic church was at times, you can't deny it had a major impact on history.
Get your fucking longbows boys we're hopping across the channel for some sport
Viva La France!!
What you gonna do France? Invade us? Bwahahaha
This makes me Angers. Seriously though, come and take them you damn surrender monkeys. [img]http://blog.web-translations.com/wp-content/uploads_webtrans/2011/06/bulldog.jpg[/img] [editline]18th July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;36824976]seriously why do we even have crown jewels if they want them so bad I don't see why they can't have them[/QUOTE] What kind of dumb logic is that? "they want them so bad so why can't they have them?" Do I even need to give an analogy of this?
[QUOTE=Cypher_09;36827504]What kind of dumb logic is that? "they want them so bad so why can't they have them?" Do I even need to give an analogy of this?[/QUOTE] well they're just sort of lying around and taking up room
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;36828010]well they're just sort of lying around and taking up room[/QUOTE] what about all of the other historical treasures that we own?
Oh no, the french, what are they going to do? Protest in their own country. Come and get them if you want them.
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