[QUOTE]DIWANIYA, Iraq - Ali Hussein Kadhim, an Iraqi soldier and a Shiite, was captured with hundreds of other soldiers by Sunni militants in June and taken to the grounds of a palace complex in Tikrit where Saddam Hussein once lived.
The militants, with the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, separated the men by sect. The Sunnis were allowed to repent for their service to the government. The Shiites were marked for death, and lined up in groups.
[B]Mr. Kadhim was No. 4 in his line.[/B][/QUOTE]
[url=http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/04/world/middleeast/surviving-isis-massacre-iraq-video.html?_r=1]video in source[/url]
Wow it actually works.
Interesting that the New York Times is showing clips of people getting executed.
if you manage to survive anything from these psychos you deserve some kind of medal
Fuck, this is very depressing.
I will never understand how these people can brutally and systematically execute thousands of unarmed recruits, I don't think I could ever bring myself to kill one man, let alone assist with the death of thousands.
How do they recognize Sunnis from Shiites?
If a Catholic was gonna kill me for being Protestant, I'd just fake being catholic and throw in a few hail Mary's, I'm sure Jesus would understand
Holy shit
[QUOTE=Jmir 54;45904216]How do they recognize Sunnis from Shiites?
If a Catholic was gonna kill me for being Protestant, I'd just fake being catholic and throw in a few hail Mary's, I'm sure Jesus would understand[/QUOTE]
Mostly names, my friend who got out of Irak after the US invasion told me that extremists would make random checkpoints on the road, ask for your ID and just shoot you if your name seemed shiite or sunni
[QUOTE=racerfan;45904201]Fuck, this is very depressing.
I will never understand how these people can brutally and systematically execute thousands of unarmed recruits, I don't think I could ever bring myself to kill one man, let alone assist with the death of thousands.[/QUOTE]
It's OK. Allah wants you to do it. And if your Allah does not then it's a different Allah and you're a soon-to-be-shot infidel pig.
[QUOTE=Jmir 54;45904216]How do they recognize Sunnis from Shiites?
If a Catholic was gonna kill me for being Protestant, I'd just fake being catholic and throw in a few hail Mary's, I'm sure Jesus would understand[/QUOTE]
They quiz you on what prayers the Sunnis perform and whatnot I think. If you don't convince them otherwise they execute you.
They pulled over some truck drivers who couldn't prove them that they were "true" Sunnis (even though they claimed they were), so they shot both of them in the head.
His story plays out exactly like someone escaping a concentration camp from World War II. ISIS is literally sub-human.
God damn that man is full of luck, not only survives a massacre but survives a few weeks deep in ISIS territory with the help of Sunni's who weren't going to betray a fellow Iraqi despite him being Shiite
[QUOTE=Jmir 54;45904216]How do they recognize Sunnis from Shiites?
If a Catholic was gonna kill me for being Protestant, I'd just fake being catholic and throw in a few hail Mary's, I'm sure Jesus would understand[/QUOTE]
His blood soaked clothes?
now ISIS will quadruple tap everyone
Make sure you watch the video.
yeah they let him suffer to death, but now surely they're gonna make sure everyone is completely dead
Scary. I don't know what I would do in that situation.
[QUOTE=Prez;45904293]His story plays out exactly like someone escaping a concentration camp from World War II. ISIS is literally sub-human.[/QUOTE]
Demonising them does nothing but put us on the same level. They need to be taken out, one way or another (and that's coming from a pacifist), but turning them into monsters just leads to us committing the same atrocities upon them.
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;45904591]Demonising them does nothing but put us on the same level. They need to be taken out, one way or another (and that's coming from a pacifist), but turning them into monsters just leads to us committing the same atrocities upon them.[/QUOTE]
True enough, I didn't mean to position my post in that way because I agree with you.
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;45904591]Demonising them does nothing but put us on the same level. They need to be taken out, one way or another (and that's coming from a pacifist), but turning them into monsters just leads to us committing the same atrocities upon them.[/QUOTE]
There's a philosophy thing I read that talks about how the disgust response can be triggered towards people who commit heinous acts, and it's a way of distancing oneself from the evil to call them monsters and not human. However, they are people and it should make us more aware of the evil human nature is capable of (not that we aren't capable of great good things)
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;45904591]Demonising them does nothing but put us on the same level. They need to be taken out, one way or another (and that's coming from a pacifist), but turning them into monsters just leads to us committing the same atrocities upon them.[/QUOTE]
Not how the real world works.
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;45904591]Demonising them does nothing but put us on the same level. They need to be taken out, one way or another (and that's coming from a pacifist), but turning them into monsters just leads to us committing the same atrocities upon them.[/QUOTE]
"I'm a pacifist and don't think we should go to war ever under any circumstance, but I think we should go to war just this one time."
If you're a pacifist, then war is never justifiable. If you want ISIS to be gotten rid of, then you're not a pacifist. And don't go on about "only monsters can kill/create monsters" line of bullshit; the real world isn't pre-teen young-adult novel. ISIS are obviously a group of monsters who rape, maim, and murder; warring against them or calling them names doesn't stoop us to their level.
[editline]6th September 2014[/editline]
The fuck is with SN's pseudo-philosophy mantra as of late?
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;45904591]Demonising them does nothing but put us on the same level..[/QUOTE]
I'm not gunning people down and forcing women into slavery soooooooo...
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;45904591]Demonising them does nothing but put us on the same level. They need to be taken out, one way or another (and that's coming from a pacifist), but turning them into monsters just leads to us committing the same atrocities upon them.[/QUOTE]
Hey bud, I'm no fan of that "ISIS are all psychotic sub-human scum" talk either, but it's a bit silly to say that modern western militaries are institutionally capable of the same extent of open, systematic brutality that ISIS is.
This man survived ISIS. That's a feat to remember.
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;45904591]Demonising them does nothing but put us on the same level. They need to be taken out, one way or another (and that's coming from a pacifist), but turning them into monsters just leads to us committing the same atrocities upon them.[/QUOTE]
Killing a murderer is not stooping to the same level.
Systematically slaughtering each and every one of these animals is still being MILES above their level.
Stop being dumb and open your eyes.
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;45904591]Demonising them does nothing but put us on the same level. They need to be taken out, one way or another (and that's coming from a pacifist), but turning them into monsters just leads to us committing the same atrocities upon them.[/QUOTE]
No, it fucking doesn't. Demonising a group of people who do nothing but kill people, destroy cities, invade countries, and kill more people isn't "being on the same level". They are literally nazis. There is nothing wrong with demonising them, because demons is exactly what they are.
Pacifism on a personal level is good, but worldwide that aint gonna work
[QUOTE=Foxton;45904441]yeah they let him suffer to death, but now surely they're gonna make sure everyone is completely dead[/QUOTE]
Well at least they're gonna waste more ammo
That part where they just drag some guy to the riverbank, bust a bullet in his head and just kick him in made me sick.
This guy.. fucking hell..
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