Missouri police chief resigns after caging family’s lost puppy at a gun range and shooting it
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[url]http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/missouri-police-chief-resigns-after-shooting-lost-puppy-in-a-cage-at-a-gun-range-as-family-searched-for-it/[/url]
[url]http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-chief-catches-lost-puppy-put-cage-shot-gun-range/[/url]
[QUOTE]Police Chief Andrew Spencer resigned this week after it was revealed that he shot and killed an innocent dog that was in a cage and meant no one any harm. To make matters even worse, he took the puppy to a firing range and killed it there because he did not want to deal with finding its home.
Spencer found the dog and managed to get it into a cage using a catcher pole. He then wrote in his report that he had planned to take the dog to a shelter where it would be “destroyed,” but then he got another call about a car accident so he decided to do it himself.
The report said that he had planned to go to “the cheapest vet to destroy the dog at the cost of the city.” However, the report continued “Due to the higher priority call and the imminent destruction of the dog, I decided it was best to destroy the dog and respond to the accident.”[/QUOTE]
High priority call -> Drive out to gun range and shoot it.
Strange story.
Alternate Sources:
[url]http://fox2now.com/2015/12/10/missouri-citys-police-chief-resigns-after-shooting-dog/[/url]
[url]http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/missouri-town-s-police-chief-quits-after-killing-a-dog/article_b2ce5b13-f338-5877-94d1-2e7f219e2ba5.html[/url]
[url]http://abc13.com/news/missouri-towns-police-chief-resigns-after-shooting-dog/1117669/[/url]
????
Taking animals to no-kill shelters is easy as hell, I've done it several times and normally they're cared for properly. Especially puppies that are HIGHLY adoptable.
I have no idea why this would even be a thing that he thought was okay or that even made sense.
Why does he act as if the puppy is an item not an animal...we don't destroy animals...
Well, if he seriously called killing another living being "destroying" it, I'm glad he's not a part of the police force anymore, he sounds like the type of a policeman who could make some [I]really, really poor decisions [/I]regarding the use of firearms somewhere down the line if you know what I mean
What kind of sociopath could actually try to justify this to himself, and how the hell did he EVER end up as the chief of police?
I see some truly despicable shit done to animals as a foster home for animals on their way to more permanent arrangement. The cat we have now was taped into a box and abandoned somewhere after her owners discovered she was pregnant, and she tried so desperately to escape that she ripped all the claws out of her front paws. They were bloody and mangled when we found her. Luckily, she didn't get an infection, and now she has four adorable kittens that we get to care for until they go to their new homes next month!
Nothing pisss me off quite as much as wanton disregard for animal life. The ex-chief should be charged with animal cruelty.
this guy's talking about destroying life
ye not someone i'd trust a gun with
[QUOTE=Sableye;49323045]Why does he act as if the puppy is an item not an animal...we don't destroy animals...[/QUOTE]
Legally animals, pets or not, are considered property. If someone killed your dog accidentally, the only legal action you can take is one that gets your money that you potentially paid to buy the dog reimbursed.
This situation here really sucks, but at least he killed it humanely. His reasoning is pretty stupid and he's a lazy fuck for not handing it off to someone who has time to put it in a shelter or find the owner, though.
Putting it in a shooting range isn't really what I'd call "humane" though.
Hope he goes to prison.
[QUOTE=zombini;49323178]Legally animals, pets or not, are considered property. If someone killed your dog accidentally, the only legal action you can take is one that gets your money that you potentially paid to buy the dog reimbursed.
This situation here really sucks, but at least he killed it humanely. His reasoning is pretty stupid and he's a lazy fuck for not handing it off to someone who has time to put it in a shelter or find the owner, though.[/QUOTE]
I don't think putting a caged dog on a firing range and shooting at it is humane at all. He could have taken it to a shelter, he should have taken it to a shelter, the stuff about an urgent call was bullshit because he stopped at a gun range to shoot the thing, which doesn't seem urgent in the slightest
His story doesn't even make sense. So he picks up this dog, cages it, gets a high priority call, and decides to drive down to his local shooting range and shoot it. If he didn't catch the dog at the shooting range, then I can't imagine that even being the fasted way to get rid of it.
He's an idiot for taking care of it the way he did, but as far as his use of the word "destroy", I'm pretty sure people have always used that language in these situations.
[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;49323208]Hope he goes to prison.[/QUOTE]
Hope he gets thrown in the deepest, darkest dungeon and then completely forgotten about.
His choice of the word "destroy" is disturbing.
[QUOTE=NeverGoWest;49323390]Hope he gets thrown in the deepest, darkest dungeon and then completely forgotten about.[/QUOTE]
At rate at which people wish to throw others into such place, they can band together and free themselves and overthrow the world.
Atleast he no longer has a job, if he's willing to take his sweet time from a high priority call to drive to a range to blast a caged dog then I'd hate to see how he'd handle a suspect.
Jesus christ "destroy" it's like this guy doesn't even recognize the animal as a living thing. Isn't that a warning sign for some psychological issue?
Also, the logic behind his actions don't seem right, if he was truly prioritizing the "higher priority call" it would have made more sense to postpone the animal's "destruction", respond to the call, then drive out the gun range to destroy the animal.
[QUOTE=inebriaticxp;49323383]He's an idiot for taking care of it the way he did, but as far as his use of the word "destroy", I'm pretty sure people have always used that language in these situations.[/QUOTE]
No destroy is talking about an inanimate object. This was a living creature and the term that is used by people is euthanize. Cause that dog had a life. This man clearly does not care about a living creature's well being. So what does that say about any one else in his eyes. I'm a living creature. Whats to say if this cop found a kid and couldn't find his parents that he would take it to a gun range and put the kid down cause well this kids is just going to go into the system and cost us money. (I know that is a bit overboard but my point that I am getting at is that he saw money more important then a life.) This is fucking disgusting I'm glade he lost his job should face animal abuse charges for what he did but since he was a chief of police I doubt they would go that far.
Destroying is an actual term also used in place of euthanasia when putting any animal down. It isn't like this guy wanted to absolutely demolish it from the face of the earth with extreme prejudice. Not that intertwining the two words affects this at all, being that what the fuck was he thinking taking it to a firing range to dispose of it.
[QUOTE=zombini;49323178]Legally animals, pets or not, are considered property. If someone killed your dog accidentally, the only legal action you can take is one that gets your money that you potentially paid to buy the dog reimbursed.
This situation here really sucks, but at least he killed it humanely. His reasoning is pretty stupid and he's a lazy fuck for not handing it off to someone who has time to put it in a shelter or find the owner, though.[/QUOTE]
Animals actually exist in a sort of weird double state in most legalities. While they are considered property, they are often considered property of special nature that has many unique characteristics due to being alive and having a will of it's own.
[QUOTE=zombini;49323178]Legally animals, pets or not, are considered property. If someone killed your dog accidentally, the only legal action you can take is one that gets your money that you potentially paid to buy the dog reimbursed.
This situation here really sucks, but at least he killed it humanely. His reasoning is pretty stupid and he's a lazy fuck for not handing it off to someone who has time to put it in a shelter or find the owner, though.[/QUOTE]
"Humanely" my ass, he took it to a firing range and shot it. Using a fucking family pet as target practice is not humane in any sense of the word.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49322995][url]http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/missouri-police-chief-resigns-after-shooting-lost-puppy-in-a-cage-at-a-gun-range-as-family-searched-for-it/[/url]
[url]http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-chief-catches-lost-puppy-put-cage-shot-gun-range/[/url]
High priority call -> Drive out to gun range and shoot it.
Strange story.[/QUOTE]
Any sources that dont have an anti-police slant? Not defending the guy or anything, just curious.
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;49324048]Any sources that dont have an anti-police slant? Not defending the guy or anything, just curious.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.news-leader.com/story/news/local/christian-county/2015/12/09/sparta-police-chief-submits-resignation-after-shooting-dog-department-set-have-zero-officers/77059072/[/url]
[QUOTE=Swiket;49323479]His choice of the word "destroy" is disturbing.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=zeroXSBK;49323815]Jesus christ "destroy" it's like this guy doesn't even recognize the animal as a living thing. Isn't that a warning sign for some psychological issue?
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correct me if I'm wrong, but isnt "destroy" the official verbiage typically used in these situations by kill shelters/animal control/the police?
like it does sound seriously sociopathic when you think about it, but I'm pretty sure that[I] is[/I] the technical term for putting an animal down
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;49324048]Any sources that dont have an anti-police slant? Not defending the guy or anything, just curious.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://fox2now.com/2015/12/10/missouri-citys-police-chief-resigns-after-shooting-dog/[/url]
[url]http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/missouri-town-s-police-chief-quits-after-killing-a-dog/article_b2ce5b13-f338-5877-94d1-2e7f219e2ba5.html[/url]
[url]http://abc13.com/news/missouri-towns-police-chief-resigns-after-shooting-dog/1117669/[/url]
OP did list some super shitty sources. Better watch out, Ranger. I'll destroy you.
[QUOTE=Kite_shugo;49324073][url]http://www.news-leader.com/story/news/local/christian-county/2015/12/09/sparta-police-chief-submits-resignation-after-shooting-dog-department-set-have-zero-officers/77059072/[/url][/QUOTE]
cheers!
[editline]15th December 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Pascall;49323018]????
Taking animals to no-kill shelters is easy as hell, I've done it several times and normally they're cared for properly. Especially puppies that are HIGHLY adoptable.
I have no idea why this would even be a thing that he thought was okay or that even made sense.[/QUOTE]
I think some of the less biased sources tell the story a bit better
[quote]
The report says Spencer was responding to a medical call on the afternoon of Nov. 10 when he was informed of an animal call nearby. The caller had told police a pit bull was loose in the area, barking at people.
[B]Spencer then later responded to the animal call after a second caller said her husband was going to get a gun and shoot the dog, according to the report.[/B]
It said a resident told Spencer that the dog was roaming the streets and feared the animal would hurt children. [B]Pit bulls are prohibited in Sparta.[/B]
[B]The report says Spencer caught the dog, but was unable to find a shelter that would take it.[/B]
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the real fuck-up is that he shot it so quickly as opposed to waiting the required 5 days to find the owners:
[quote]Harry Styron, city attorney for the city of Sparta, told the News-Leader in November the city requires loose dogs to be held for five days after they are picked up, and the fact that pit bulls are a prohibited breed in Sparta doesn't change that.[/quote]
jesus sounds like a fucking psychopath
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;49324081]cheers!
[editline]15th December 2015[/editline]
I think some of the less biased sources tell the story a bit better
the real fuck-up is that he shot it so quickly as opposed to waiting the required 5 days to find the owners:[/QUOTE]
Which brings us back to the old debate about dog breed bans, which have been proven over and over again to be ill-conceived and ultimately worthless. Pit bulls, nor any other dog breed, are inherently violent towards people. Major studies have concluded beyond all shadow of a doubt that prohibiting certain breeds of dogs does not address the factors that lead to dog attacks in the first place, and are thus not effective. The vast majority of dog attacks that occur are attributed to [I]external[/I] factors or socialization issues as a result of abuse or neglect, not breed.
[QUOTE=notlabbet;49324156]jesus sounds like a fucking psychopath[/QUOTE]
Naw, he wouldn't of resigned if he was. Nor would anyone even know he did it.
The term "destroy" is used by groups like the spca. Don't get your panties in a knot over it.
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