[media]https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/875046482201591808[/media]
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40281300[/url]
[quote]Tim Farron has stepped down as leader of the Liberal Democrats after the general election.
In a statement, he said he was "torn between living as a faithful Christian and serving as a political leader".
He said he should have dealt "more wisely" with questions relating to his faith during the election campaign, including his views on gay sex.
He insisted he had taken the decision voluntarily and he retained the support of his party.[/quote]
Perhaps this is for the best
No formal candidates to replace him yet, but there are only 11 other Lib Dem MPs so the next leader will be one of these people:
[quote]Tom Brake
Vince Cable
Alistair Carmichael
Ed Davey
Wera Hobhouse
Christine Jardine
Norman Lamb
Stephen Lloyd
Layla Moran
Jamie Stone
Jo Swinson[/quote]
Taking a step back, it's pretty remarkable that we've just had a major politician resign because people didn't trust him because he was a Christian
[QUOTE=Bob The Knob;52359331]No formal candidates to replace him yet, but there are only 11 other Lib Dem MPs so the next leader will be one of these people:[/QUOTE]
Jo Swinson and Vince Cable are the most likely I've been told.
Just joined the party finally, will be able to vote on the next leader hopefully :dance:
[QUOTE=Thomo;52359333]This is surprising I thought he was doing pretty well, despite the questions hasn't he always voted through the stuff in parliament in regards to LGBT rights or whatever?[/QUOTE]
He actually lost votes for the lib dems overall and barely held onto his seat.
My hometown constituency has been represented by Norman Lamb for over a decade he's very good at getting things done. I reckon he should make a good go at it.
Shame about Mr Farron he did some good wisecracks here and there but I've never really found him to be amazing.
just goes to show what a horrible, vindictive society we live in. his thoughts on gay sex, abortion and so on are moot because his actions show that he would fight for people's rights to do these things. i lay the blame firmly on our atrocious mainstream media (the daily mail & the sun), who exonerate theresa may for selling weapons to totalitarian regimes but condemn tim farron for not wanting to tie his personal thoughts to party policy, as if The Sun and Co. gave a singular shit about LGBT rights.
[QUOTE=JustExtreme;52359436]My hometown constituency has been represented by Norman Lamb for over a decade he's very good at getting things done. I reckon he should make a good go at it.
Shame about Mr Farron he did some good wisecracks here and there but I've never really found him to be amazing.[/QUOTE]
Lamb will probs run, he lost to Farron in the last leadership election
[QUOTE=EXPLOOOSIONS!;52359437]just goes to show what a horrible, vindictive society we live in. his thoughts on gay sex, abortion and so on are moot because his actions show that he would fight for people's rights to do these things. i lay the blame firmly on our atrocious mainstream media (the daily mail & the sun), who exonerate theresa may for selling weapons to totalitarian regimes but condemn tim farron for not wanting to tie his personal thoughts to party policy, as if The Sun and Co. gave a singular shit about LGBT rights.[/QUOTE]
Except he literally voted against the equality act and abstained from voting on gay marriage. It's clear that his personal views and political views weren't totally separate.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;52359462]Except he literally voted against the equality act and abstained from voting on gay marriage. It's clear that his personal views and political views weren't totally separate.[/QUOTE]
If that's the case, good riddance.
People can have whatever stupid beliefs they want until they have the power to effect the way others live their lives.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;52359462]Except he literally voted against the equality act and abstained from voting on gay marriage. It's clear that his personal views and political views weren't totally separate.[/QUOTE]
why would someone with those views decide to join the Lib Dems of all parties
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;52359462]Except he literally voted against the equality act and abstained from voting on gay marriage. It's clear that his personal views and political views weren't totally separate.[/QUOTE]
[url]https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/11923/tim_farron/westmorland_and_lonsdale/votes[/url]
this would disagree with you, except for [B]once[/B] in 2007
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oh, and [del]one[/del] three absences, if we're just going from the 'equal gay rights' tab
[QUOTE=Bob The Knob;52359331]No formal candidates to replace him yet, but there are only 11 other Lib Dem MPs so the next leader will be one of these people:[/QUOTE]
Even all them could replace the former leader, I think most them will destroy party again with signed new coalition with Conservatives.
[editline]14th June 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;52359391]He actually lost votes for the lib dems overall and barely held onto his seat.[/QUOTE]
I would thanks to SNP for taking most all voters from them.
[QUOTE=ChadMcGoatMan;52360184]Even all them could replace the former leader, I think most them will destroy party again with signed new coalition with Conservatives.
[editline]14th June 2017[/editline]
I would thanks to SNP for taking most all voters from them.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure anyone in the Lib Dems is suicidal enough to repeat that mistake to be honest. Though considering that during the coalition, the Tories were actively hindered from doing their worst for a bit due to not having a real majority it could work out again.
Until the LDs are used as the fall guys for every bad thing and the Tories abuse that to take even more control. Because they're all cunts with no self restraint.
[QUOTE=zupadupazupadude;52359665]why would someone with those views decide to join the Lib Dems of all parties[/QUOTE]
Politics is money, doesn't matter who gives it to you
There's been something fundamentally wrong with the Lib Dem leaders lately.
Pretty refreshing tone from [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40281300]his resignation statement[/url] i.e. explicitly [I]not[/I] attacking the media
[quote]Journalists have every right to ask what they see fit. The consequences of the focus on my faith is that I have found myself torn between living as a faithful Christian and serving as a political leader.[/quote]
And again, kind of astounding that a Christian politician is in this position
[quote]Even so, I seem to be the subject of suspicion because of what I believe and who my faith is in.
In which case we are kidding ourselves if we think we yet live in a tolerant, liberal society.[/quote]
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;52359462]Except he literally voted against the equality act and abstained from voting on gay marriage. It's clear that his personal views and political views weren't totally separate.[/QUOTE]
I just saw this crop up on my facebook feed (I always find the coincidence of running into related articles like this bizarre, but given it's current discussion I really shouldn't):
[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/jennie-rigg/tim-farron-lgbt-record_b_16095906.html[/url]
Particularly the first point:
[quote=Jennie Rigg]1. With one exception, Tim Farron voted fully in favour of same sex marriage. The one time he abstained? That was because he was trying to get an amendment passed on the Spousal Veto, a really nasty little clause which shafts trans people.[/quote]
I should look further into this and verify everything. Every day it gets harder and harder to not find yellow journalism.
maybe they could get someone more charismatic, like a fish or something
[QUOTE=Untouch;52364700]maybe they could get someone more charismatic, like a fish or something[/QUOTE]
But yet again with a voting system like First Past The Post, It wouldn't get Party higher to close SNP polling.
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