• Apple rejects order to unlock phone
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Holy shit, they actually told them to fuck off. I was [url=https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1506524&p=49757764&viewfull=1#post49757764]almost right[/url]. :v: The feds are going to rip them apart.
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Is iPhone security [I]really [/I]that good that even the FBI is somehow incapable of getting the data off a locked phone?
Wow that was fast
[QUOTE=ScottyWired;49758074]Is iPhone security [I]really [/I]that good that even the FBI is somehow incapable of getting the data off a locked phone?[/QUOTE] Yeah, that's what I asked in the last thread; if this issue is important enough then they should be willing to invest the amount of resources it would take to get whatever's on that phone.
[QUOTE=ScottyWired;49758074]Is iPhone security [I]really [/I]that good that even the FBI is somehow incapable of getting the data off a locked phone?[/QUOTE] Well it's all encrypted. They want Apple to stop the phone from erasing the data after 10 failed attempts to get into it and implement a way for them to brute force the passcode without having to enter it into the phone manually.
I don't know why Apple should be obligated to spend their own resources and manpower circumventing their own devices for the FBI. Feds should figure out a way to do it them selves.
Rejecting and contesting are two completely different things. Thread title is misleading. Good on Apple for this. Everyone should have their phone encrypted.
[QUOTE=Code3Response;49758197]Rejecting and contesting are two completely different things. Thread title is misleading. Good on Apple for this. Everyone should have their phone encrypted.[/QUOTE] I shouldn't need to have my phone encrypted, but I do, and that's depressing
[QUOTE=J!NX;49758202]I shouldn't need to have my phone encrypted, but I do, and that's depressing[/QUOTE] i feel the more depressing part is that you don't need it encrypted to protect yourself from criminals but from our own government
[QUOTE=ScottyWired;49758074]Is iPhone security [I]really [/I]that good that even the FBI is somehow incapable of getting the data off a locked phone?[/QUOTE] They might have a way which is really expensive so they are kicking up a storm so they can push their backdoor idea through the government easier
[QUOTE=ScottyWired;49758074]Is iPhone security [I]really [/I]that good that even the FBI is somehow incapable of getting the data off a locked phone?[/QUOTE] Even if you tried to bruteforce the encryption, it would delete the data after 10 failed attempts. It's a simple but effective system.
[QUOTE=paul simon;49758800]Even if you tried to bruteforce the encryption, it would delete the data after 10 failed attempts. It's a simple but effective system.[/QUOTE] well, the feds would normally have the resources to break the encryption from the flash memory itself instead of going through the phone, so I don't know why they're making such a big fuss about it.
[QUOTE=Map in a box;49758851]well, the feds would normally have the resources to break the encryption from the flash memory itself instead of going through the phone, so I don't know why they're making such a big fuss about it.[/QUOTE] They can't, from what I can tell it's AES-256 which even the NSA can't currently get through. In fact the US government itself uses AES-256 for top secret intelligence files and stuff.
[QUOTE=Map in a box;49758851]well, the feds would normally have the resources to break the encryption from the flash memory itself instead of going through the phone, so I don't know why they're making such a big fuss about it.[/QUOTE] it's still encrypted...
[QUOTE=smurfy;49758987]They can't, from what I can tell it's AES-256 which even the NSA can't currently get through. In fact the US government itself uses AES-256 for top secret intelligence files and stuff.[/QUOTE] They wouldn't use AES-256 to encrypt the entire memory, thats a horrible idea, and they already wanted to brute it through the interface which would be less effective than bruting the flash itself. AES-256 was a US Government designed crypto, as well, so they're probably the most eligible to crack it if they wanted. Its not that cracking AES-256 is impossible, it just takes a long time which the feds should have plenty of.
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