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[quote=arstechnica]
[B]Comcast is planning a nationwide online video service with short-form content to compete against YouTube, The Information reported yesterday.
Comcast has so far not offered online video services outside of its cable territory.[/B]
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"Streampix" was launched in 2012 to help Comcast compete against online video.
"The proposed video service would mark a brand new chapter for Comcast, which would be able to play in a loosely regulated market, reach a national audience, and possibly even make its service available outside the US," the report said. "It also may be necessary move, given that younger viewers have been gravitating toward Web videos made by a new generation of artists. One purpose of the service is to add new types of shows to Comcast’s cable package, allowing people to watch them on TV screens."
Comcast has been working on the project "for at least a year and a half" but decided not to move forward until after the government finished reviewing its proposed Time Warner Cable (TWC) merger, the report said.
[B]US government officials ultimately prevented Comcast from buying TWC because they believed greater size would give Comcast power to stifle competition from online video. Comcast argued that it had no incentive to harm online competition because its own online video service was only available within its cable territory and only for Comcast's Internet and cable TV customers. Comcast's Streampix online video service launched in 2012 but has not been successful.[/B]
From a technical standpoint, Comcast would probably have little trouble operating a nationwide video service. Besides providing Internet access to homes, Comcast uses its extensive fiber and cable infrastructure to sell transit and content delivery network services to businesses.
[B]By making the service more like YouTube than Netflix, Comcast could avoid the problem of securing nationwide programming rights from the biggest content owners. Last year, Comcast said that cable companies have not found a viable business model for launching online video outside their cable territories, partly because of "the difficulty of obtaining national programming rights."[/B]
[B]But Comcast could have a difficult time making a YouTube-like service popular with consumers and artists. Comcast would have to appeal to the kinds of video creators who upload video to YouTube in order to create demand. Videos could be free and supported by ads or delivered via subscriptions by content owners.[/B]
[B]Comcast has not set a launch date, and there's even "an outside chance" that the company could scrap the project "because of shifting priorities or new acquisitions," The Information report said. "But the company has specifically hired employees from YouTube to help with the video effort, according to a person familiar with the moves."[/B]
We contacted Comcast about the report today but haven't heard back[/quote]
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not sure how to feel on this; On one hand it's about time something cropped up to take on youtube for some direct competition, I definitely think competition is good for the consumer. But on the other hand.. it's comcast and that alone makes me iffy with their implementation of it
More like Cumcast
Wouldn't vimeo count as a competitor to Youtube?
It'll probably fail.
This will rank highly along the rest of Comcast's highly competitive and successful services, including but not limited to
Yeah, like any content creators will actually move over to something owned by fucking comcast, meaning normal people won't either.
Get fucked Comcast.
[QUOTE=BFG9000;47657322]More like Cumcast
Wouldn't vimeo count as a competitor to Youtube?[/QUOTE]
There's Dailymotion as well. There exists a number of 'competitors' to YouTube, just none of them can compare to YouTube's popularity in the slightest. Comcast will be no different.
It'll probably be as successful as Google's Facebook/Tumblr hybrid competitor.
If they do go forward with this, who is to say that they won't block the access of Youtube and only allow access of their video streaming service to their subscribers. Then again maybe I'm just looking at the overly extreme scenario.
Honestly I wouldn't know how this would turn out. Competition is good and would force YouTube to pick up the pace. Though what kinda has me worried is the server quality, I don't usually hear much sparkling service with them. Care to prove me wrong?
[QUOTE=Kahgarak;47657336]It'll probably fail.[/QUOTE]
It will 100000% fail in the first month, then it will hemorrhage money until comcast realise everyone fucking loathes them to the core.
But how will people be able to enjoy the great Comcast content with their trademark speeds?
Comcast, you have no momentum when trying to compete with a Google subsidiary. Have you not watch anyone else who tried?
[QUOTE=BFG9000;47657322]More like Cumcast
Wouldn't vimeo count as a competitor to Youtube?[/QUOTE]
Vimeo is mostly geared towards artists and short films.
I think also the quality MIGHT be better on Vimeo but I'm not certain.
Good luck
[QUOTE=coolgame8013;47657372]If they do go forward with this, who is to say that they won't block the access of Youtube and only allow access of their video streaming service to their subscribers. Then again maybe I'm just looking at the overly extreme scenario.
Honestly I wouldn't know how this would turn out. Competition is good and would force YouTube to pick up the pace. Though what kinda has me worried is the server quality, I don't usually hear much sparkling service with them. Care to prove me wrong?[/QUOTE]
So, being the number one ISP, with the whole FCC and the Net Neutrality, and knowing how pissed people get when facebook goes down, yeah, not going to work
We do need an eventual alternative to Youtube, on the same scale of Youtube, though.
Or at least big changes to Youtube itself.
:suicide:
Looks like Comcast want to milk the content creator too.
I bet they will slow down your internet speed when you are on YouTube and make their website running better.
Fortunately I live far away from any Comcast business
I really don't get how stupid you'd have to be to even attempt this. Like, how fucking close minded are they to think that this will actually work when a good majority of people hate Comcast.
This will guaranteed fail.
[QUOTE=Grandzeit;47657355]It'll probably be as successful as Google's Facebook/Tumblr hybrid competitor.[/QUOTE]
Why would it? The only reason Google + really took off is because Google forced people using other services of there's (YouTube and android stuff) to make a Google + account at the threat of reduced functionality. Comcast doesn't have that kind of sway.
[QUOTE=Xron;47657652]Why would it? The only reason Google + really took off is because Google forced people using other services of there's (YouTube and android stuff) to make a Google + account at the threat of reduced functionality. Comcast doesn't have that kind of sway.[/QUOTE]
Google + took off?
the only way this will succeed is if they somehow fuck with copyright issues so that it becomes easier to share material that is based in comcast subscriptions on the site
ie if suddenly blue jean joe can pop on comcastyoutube.com and view the most hilarious clips from last nights duck dynasty then maybe it'll take off
maybe
[QUOTE=Maegord;47657693]Google + took off?[/QUOTE]
Hangouts part of it, p. good, better than skype.
[QUOTE=Xron;47657652]Why would it? The only reason Google + really took off is because Google forced people using other services of there's (YouTube and android stuff) to make a Google + account at the threat of reduced functionality. Comcast doesn't have that kind of sway.[/QUOTE]
funny seeing how according to a survey not ran by google g+ has the second highest 30-day actives behind facebook and in front of twitter
Better comefast, or you wont comeback
[QUOTE=Glitchman;47657394]Vimeo is mostly geared towards artists and short films.
I think also the quality MIGHT be better on Vimeo but I'm not certain.[/QUOTE]
Vimeos quality is A LOT higher than what you get on YouTube.
[QUOTE=Maegord;47657693]Google + took off?[/QUOTE]
G+ has found huge success in the business market as part of Googles 365 competitor, admittedly way way more than in the consumer market but google for work is a huge thing and people seem to forget about that.
It continues to exist because it's target audience is different to that of facebook/twitter etc - much like how vimeo & youtube have very different audiences and users
haaha they are gonna flop
[QUOTE=General J;47657576]We do need an eventual alternative to Youtube, on the same scale of Youtube, though.
Or at least big changes to Youtube itself.[/QUOTE]
I'd like to see a youtube clown (or youtube branching off) into two forms: One being model of youtube for content creators. People who want to treat it like a job or a tv show. They want to regularly put out content, in some sense of a formula, and post on a schedule. This one would be balanced better for things like SEO and page layout, plus not just putting pewdiepie on the front page every day. Instead having a system for what shows up on the front page based on certain metrics (every time someone subscribes from a video on your channel, that video gets a "point" and whatever 5 videos have the most points in the last 24 hours show up on the front page, or something)
Maybe there's a main 'front page of yt' thing with 5 or so videos or channels from the site as a whole, but there's also another for your preferred genre/channel type. For example you would go to the site and the first thing you'd see is 5 videos from the site as a whole, and maybe the most recently subbed Lets Plays and the video that people were subbing because of. That would benefit the user just as much as the content creator.
the other being the classic "yo look at this funny random video" kind of youtube, it might not even be paid. It could have an aggregate system built in to build better communities that dont need monetization because thats not what kind of video it is.
[QUOTE=Maegord;47657352]There's Dailymotion as well. There exists a number of 'competitors' to YouTube, just none of them can compare to YouTube's popularity in the slightest. Comcast will be no different.[/QUOTE]
Once this comes out I think youtube will mysteriously run VERY slowly for comcast users, and uploads will more often then not fail
[QUOTE=viperfan7;47659060]Once this comes out I think youtube will mysteriously run VERY slowly for comcast users, and uploads will more often then not fail[/QUOTE]
That's possible. I think they used these type of tactic against competitor websites.
I think they even banned some TV/Media services on Ps and Xbox
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