• Woman wants tea cooled down, too hot for accidental skin moisturizing
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[quote]A Winnipeg woman who was scalded by a cup of Tim Hortons tea is demanding new rules for how hot beverages should be served at restaurants. Lisa Marchant suffered second- and third-degree burns on her left side after an extra-large cup of green tea spilled on her lap following a minor car accident in February.[/quote] [url]http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/story/2013/09/10/mb-hot-tea-coffee-burns-winnipeg-iteam.html[/url] Seriously? It's that guy who sued McDonalds for not knowing his coffee was hot all over again (minus the whole suing, and the whole court case, and... okaynothinglikeit) Seriously though. Water NEEDS to be hot in order to steep tea. I'm sorry to hear she scalded the shit out of herself on accident, but come on. Just cause of an accident she wants regulations for water temperature? Next thing you know, we'll order a large tea and it'll have ice cubes in it!
insert generic response about how the mcdonald's coffee case was actually justified seeing as how they were serving the coffee at an unreasonably hot and unsafe temperature no beverage should be sold hot enough to give you third-degree burns
Looks like it was more the car accident's fault than the hot water, some people are just insufferable like that though.
[QUOTE=Noss;42158833]insert generic response about how the mcdonald's coffee case was actually justified seeing as how they were serving the coffee at an unreasonably hot and unsafe temperature no beverage should be sold hot enough to give you third-degree burns[/QUOTE] So we should steep tea at lower temperatures below recommendations just for the people who don't use simple reasoning to determine that your hot beverage is HOT? (Tea needs boiling water to steep properly)
[QUOTE=kurry;42158841]Looks like it was more the car accident's fault than the hot water, some people are just insufferable like that though.[/QUOTE] this is a picture of a third-degree burn [NSFL]https://wocn.confex.com/wocn/2006annual/techprogram/images/1688-0.jpg[NSFL] it shouldn't be served at a temperature capable of causing that
Welcome to the Southern United States, where iced tea is served in almost every restaurant.
[QUOTE=Noss;42158853]this is a picture of a third-degree burn [NSFL]https://wocn.confex.com/wocn/2006annual/techprogram/images/1688-0.jpg[NSFL] it shouldn't be served at a temperature capable of causing that[/QUOTE] How did that even stay in the cup?
[QUOTE=RoflKawpter;42158850]So we should steep tea at lower temperatures below recommendations just for the people who don't use simple reasoning to determine that your hot beverage is HOT? (Tea needs boiling water to steep properly)[/QUOTE] basically yes it can be hot without being hot enough to burn through to your fucking bone [editline]12th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Liem;42158872]How did that even stay in the cup?[/QUOTE] that particular burn isn't from a hot beverage, but this one is (from the mcdonalds case): [NSFL]http://harmfuldruginfocenter.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/mcdonalds.jpg[NSFL]
[QUOTE=Noss;42158873]basically yes it can be hot without being hot enough to burn through to your fucking bone[/QUOTE] If you're a tea afficianado, you know that water needs to be boiling to steep tea. You're recommending they don't steep tea in boiling water so they inconvenience others?
Actually the case of the elderly woman who sued McDonald's was almost completely misconstrued by the general public The coffee was around 50 degrees hotter than advertised, around 200 or so degrees Fahrenheit, when it fell on her lap. This caused severe third degree burns all over her her thighs and genital area and it kind of justifies suing the company
So basically ban restaurants from selling hot drinks because someone got hurt? Sounds glorious.
[QUOTE=Noss;42158873]basically yes it can be hot without being hot enough to burn through to your fucking bone [editline]12th September 2013[/editline] that particular burn isn't from a hot beverage, but this one is (from the mcdonalds case): [NSFL]http://harmfuldruginfocenter.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/mcdonalds.jpg[NSFL][/QUOTE] oh my god that looks so horrible no wonder she sued jesus lordy oh dear
[QUOTE=RoflKawpter;42158899]If you're a tea afficianado, you know that water needs to be boiling to steep tea. You're recommending they don't steep tea in boiling water so they inconvenience others?[/QUOTE] I'm sure in a day and age where your average home coffee maker can brew your coffee, make toast, and pet your dog that they can be made to slightly cool the drink after it has been made If not they should at least add a large warning to the cup and state the temperature that the beverage is typically served at
[QUOTE=Noss;42158961]If not they should at least add a large warning to the cup and state the temperature that the beverage is typically served at[/QUOTE] If you need a sticker to tell you that tea is made with boiling hot water, then you also need a big fat warning sticker on your microwave that states it's not for drying your pets or baby.
[QUOTE=RoflKawpter;42158899]If you're a tea afficianado, you know that water needs to be boiling to steep tea. You're recommending they don't steep tea in boiling water so they inconvenience others?[/QUOTE] McDonald's, Tim Horton's, and other chains use boilers that get the tea/coffee well beyond boiling, kept under pressure so that the steam cannot escape. It allows them to get more out of less material, and then they serve it at just below boiling. Coffee and tea are not meant to be served at 200 degrees fahrenheit, it's an unsafe practice and the damage a spill causes can be horrendous.
[QUOTE=catbarf;42159000]McDonald's, Tim Horton's, and other chains use boilers that get the tea/coffee well beyond boiling, kept under pressure so that the steam cannot escape. It allows them to get more out of less material, and then they serve it at just below boiling. Coffee and tea are not meant to be served at 200 degrees fahrenheit, it's an unsafe practice and the damage a spill causes can be horrendous.[/QUOTE] Read the article, the hottest they've found served was 89 C. That's below boiling. Below what's recommended to steep tea in. What's the issue?
[QUOTE=RoflKawpter;42159096]Read the article, the hottest they've found served was 89 C. That's below boiling. Below what's recommended to steep tea in. What's the issue?[/QUOTE] Can't you get third degree burns from 60 C anyway?
[QUOTE=Noss;42158853]this is a picture of a third-degree burn [NSFL]https://wocn.confex.com/wocn/2006annual/techprogram/images/1688-0.jpg[NSFL] it shouldn't be served at a temperature capable of causing that[/QUOTE] That's a fourth degree burn. Reddening of skin is first degree. Blisters or peeling of skin is second degree. Skin burnt through is third degree. Muscle, fat or bone damage is fourth degree.
I for one see no issue with tea being let to cool down 5 minutes before it is handed to you. Even without an accident I can recall many times when a bit sloshed out of the cup and onto my hand, effectively making me curse in pain.
Why does my city always make it into the news for the dumbest shit? Also winnipegfap reunion is bound to happen in this thread
[QUOTE=RoflKawpter;42158850]So we should steep tea at lower temperatures below recommendations just for the people who don't use simple reasoning to determine that your hot beverage is HOT? (Tea needs boiling water to steep properly)[/QUOTE] There's hot, and there's grievous bodily harm scald your mouth as you drink it hot
[QUOTE=The golden;42159166]According to the article, you can get 3rd degree burns from as low as 56C.[/QUOTE] Shows I didn't read the article, but I wasn't far off at least
[QUOTE=Riller;42159202]That's a fourth degree burn. Reddening of skin is first degree. Blisters or peeling of skin is second degree. Skin burnt through is third degree. Muscle, fat or bone damage is fourth degree.[/QUOTE] I've never heard of that system being used, just 1-2-3 [editline]11th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=wallyroberto_2;42159306]I've never heard of that system being used, just 1-2-3[/QUOTE] I guess it is used in some circles, nvm!
[QUOTE=Noss;42158873]basically yes it can be hot without being hot enough to burn through to your fucking bone [editline]12th September 2013[/editline] that particular burn isn't from a hot beverage, but this one is (from the mcdonalds case): [NSFL]http://harmfuldruginfocenter.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/mcdonalds.jpg[NSFL][/QUOTE] Fun Fact: a third or fourth degree burn is actually painless because the nerve endings that experience pain have been completely cauterized, so it just feels like a large patch of numb skin. Of course, depending on how it happened, the area [I]around[/I] the burn might not have been so "lucky." Also, third degree burns feel like leather if you touch them (which you shouldn't).
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;42159226]I for one see no issue with tea being let to cool down 5 minutes before it is handed to you. Even without an accident I can recall many times when a bit sloshed out of the cup and onto my hand, effectively making me curse in pain.[/QUOTE] Where's my bloody drink? Sorry sir, we cant let you drink it for 5 minutes due to safety regulations
[QUOTE=Cone;42159328]Fun Fact: a third or fourth degree burn is actually painless because the nerve endings that experience pain have been completely cauterized, so it just feels like a large patch of numb skin. Of course, depending on how it happened, the area [I]around[/I] the burn might not have been so "lucky." Also, third degree burns feel like leather if you touch them (which you shouldn't).[/QUOTE] Talking as someone who has had plenty of everything up to 3rd degrees.. Yeah. First is by [I]far[/I] the worst, pain-wise. Second is a little less bad, really, until the skin starts peeling off. Third is just.. Well, they're terrifying to have, and the surrounding area hurts like hell, but for an open hole into your arm or whatever, they're quite pleasant. They suck at healing, though. One I got three weeks ago is still kinda fucked, and it's a small one.
I just get my water just as it starts to boil, throw the bag in, and come back in like a minute once it's done with its shit. There should be simple rules: don't serve the cup itself at above boiling. it can be brewed at higher than such, because it's proper and afaik the best way to, but there's no point in anyone handling it above/at boiling.
[QUOTE=Riller;42159363]Talking as someone who has had plenty of everything up to 3rd degrees.. Yeah. First is by [I]far[/I] the worst, pain-wise. Second is a little less bad, really, until the skin starts peeling off. Third is just.. Well, they're terrifying to have, and the surrounding area hurts like hell, but for an open hole into your arm or whatever, they're quite pleasant. They suck at healing, though. One I got three weeks ago is still kinda fucked, and it's a small one.[/QUOTE] I burned myself while soldering some copper pipes together when molten solder landed on my wrist. Twas fun for a month while it healed!
[QUOTE=RoflKawpter;42159578]I burned myself while soldering some copper pipes together when molten solder landed on my wrist. Twas fun for a month while it healed![/QUOTE] Three weeks ago, I got 180 degrees hot cooking oil all over my right forearm and hand.
[QUOTE=Riller;42159597]Three weeks ago, I got 180 degrees hot cooking oil all over my right forearm and hand.[/QUOTE] Got on oil burn on my ankle once, huge splotch turned into one big blister.
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