Newt Gingrich Launches Broad Attack on Nation’s Courts
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Orwell that ends well.
[QUOTE]Newt Gingrich’s presidential campaign took an unusual turn on Saturday as he challenged the long-established notion that the Supreme Court should have the final say over constitutional questions.
As a historian, he made an interesting argument. As the frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination, it was a rather odd detour into the world of abstract legal theory.
In a conference call with reporters, Gingrich invoked Jefferson, Madison, Hamilton, The Federalist Papers, Lincoln, FDR and a 1958 ruling by the Warren Court to cast doubt on whether 5-4 rulings by the nation’s highest court should have legitimacy, and whether judges with what he considers abhorrent views should be removed.
The former House speaker said he is “frankly just fed up with elitist judges imposing secularism on the country” and that the court system has “run amok.”
On one level, it seemed like Gingrich wasting a news cycle by indulging his appetite for intellectual discourse, with the Iowa caucuses less than three weeks away. But out-of-control judges and the limits of the Constitution are resonant issues among the kind of conservative activists who turn out in GOP primary contests, so Gingrich was engaged in a form of narrowcasting.
He said that judges who are “so radically anti-American that they are a threat to the fabric of the country” should be hauled before Congress and possibly impeached rather than being allowed to keep their lifetime appointments. Gingrich repeatedly invoked a ruling earlier this year by U.S. District Judge Fred Biery in Texas that barred a school district from allowing public prayer or such religious words as “amen” at a high-school graduation ceremony.
Out-of-control judges and the limits of the Constitution are resonant issues among the kind of conservative activists who turn out in GOP primary contests.
Dismissing a question about whether his proposals amount to a power grab, Gingrich said the “nine appointed people” on the Supreme Court should not be “the ultimate dictators,” and that the president and Congress should jointly be able to block decisions with which they disagree. He said Justice Anthony Kennedy, a swing vote on the court, sometimes “gets up as a conservative” and sometimes “gets up as a liberal,” resulting in narrow rulings that “most people realize” are “an absurdity.”
The Founding Fathers were skeptical of the power of British judges, Gingrich said, and “the courts are forcing us into a constitutional crisis because of their arrogant overreach.”
The issue surfaced at a Fox News debate Thursday night, when anchor Megyn Kelly noted that two conservative former attorneys general have criticized Gingrich’s proposal with such words as “dangerous,” “outrageous,” and “totally irresponsible.”
The conference call was an interesting tactical move by Gingrich, who made a late decision to appear on Face the Nation on Sunday. He will appear opposite an interview with Mitt Romney on Fox News Sunday, the first appearance on a Sunday program by the former Massachusetts governor in 18 months. Unlike Gingrich, Romney has been running a press-averse campaign until this week, when he mounted a blitz that included interviews with The New York Times, The Washington Post, and Politico.
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[quote]The former House speaker said he is “frankly just fed up with elitist judges imposing secularism on the country” and that the court system has “run amok.”[/quote]
What the fuck does religion have to do with anything?
"I don't agree with them, therefor if elected president I promise to get rid of them and any other bastard who disagrees with my opinion!"
[editline]20th December 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=lulzbocksV2;33805905]What the fuck does religion have to do with anything?[/QUOTE]
Because white, southern republicans.
I read the title as New Grinch Launches... and came into this thread expecting another Christmas esque Dr. Seuss movie adaptation.
Uh... Imposing secular ideals on a country founded on secular principles...
...Alrighty.
[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;33805883]On one level, it seemed like Gingrich wasting a news cycle by indulging his appetite for [U][B]intellectual discourse[/B][/U][/QUOTE]
So that is what they call babbling now.
What was that thread on FP where we were talking about how religion in politics has actually gotten worse in the past 200 years? These guys are scary. So fucking tired of people talking as if Christianity is the law.
I'm not seeing this reported on any real news websites.
Ha, I don't see him bleating about Citizen's United, the worst case of activist judging ruining our political system since Dred Scott. Gingrich just wants to get rid of judges that don't use their positions to force HIS agenda on everyone.
And that's why Gingrich's poll numbers are falling like a shit from heaven.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;33807635]Ha, I don't see him bleating about Citizen's United, the worst case of activist judging ruining our political system since Dred Scott. Gingrich just wants to get rid of judges that don't use their positions to force HIS agenda on everyone.
And that's why Gingrich's poll numbers are falling like a shit from heaven.[/QUOTE]
Nothing besides this one article from this one website says he is talking about ANY Supreme Court decisions. This article is what is commonly referred to as a "lie."
When the tea party says they want a smaller government, I hope they don't mean a larger more powerful executive and a weaker judiciary. You know, the kind of thing that the founding fathers explictly didn't want.
[QUOTE=Ridge;33808008]Nothing besides this one article from this one website says he is talking about ANY Supreme Court decisions. This article is what is commonly referred to as a "lie."[/QUOTE]
And in this article, there is something commonly referred to as "quotations". Every single major news sources have an article around this.
I know you're absolutely certain your party is infallible, but do try and read.
[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;33810121]And in this article, there is something commonly referred to as "quotations".[/quote]
"Don't believe everything you see on the internet." -- Abraham Lincoln
[quote]Every single major news sources have an article around this. [/quote]
I checked the major news sources last night when I first posted, and didn't see an article resembling this. I also didn't see any sources in the article you linked. Would you mind sharing them with the rest of us?
[quote]I know you're absolutely certain your party is infallible, but do try and read.[/QUOTE]
I don't know why you refer to them as my party. I am only a Republican because I want to change the party in the primaries. I'm really a Libertarian, and the only contender I like in the least is Ron Paul, and I still see his shortcomings. I especially despise Gingrich, as he is part of the old guard of when the Republican party turned into the shitty group it is today.
But go on, continue with your misconceptions.
[QUOTE=Ridge;33811319]"Don't believe everything you see on the internet." -- Abraham Lincoln
I checked the major news sources last night when I first posted, and didn't see an article resembling this. I also didn't see any sources in the article you linked. Would you mind sharing them with the rest of us?
I don't know why you refer to them as my party. I am only a Republican because I want to change the party in the primaries. I'm really a Libertarian, and the only contender I like in the least is Ron Paul, and I still see his shortcomings. I especially despise Gingrich, as he is part of the old guard of when the Republican party turned into the shitty group it is today.
But go on, continue with your misconceptions.[/QUOTE]
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It was on NPR last night, Ill let someone else link you to other news sites since I'm on my phone.
Yeah, didn't have time to check but this should be what the OP is talking about? [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/newt-gingrich-takes-aim-at-activist-judges-concerning-some-in-gop/2011/12/19/gIQAv5uD5O_story.html"]http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/newt-gingrich-takes-aim-at-activist-judges-concerning-some-in-gop/2011/12/19/gIQAv5uD5O_story.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=Miskav;33811550]Yeah, didn't have time to check but this should be what the OP is talking about? [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/newt-gingrich-takes-aim-at-activist-judges-concerning-some-in-gop/2011/12/19/gIQAv5uD5O_story.html"]http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/newt-gingrich-takes-aim-at-activist-judges-concerning-some-in-gop/2011/12/19/gIQAv5uD5O_story.html[/URL][/QUOTE]
Thank you for posting a reliable source. It's not quite as sensationalist as OPs, but the gist of the story appears to be the same. Recommence hatred.
Really sounds like this small-government conservative is vying to be a dictator
[QUOTE=Ridge;33819773]Thank you for posting a reliable source. It's not quite as sensationalist as OPs, but the gist of the story appears to be the same. Recommence hatred.[/QUOTE]
you seriously couldn't find that article?
[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;33823782]you seriously couldn't find that article?[/QUOTE]
Couldn't you?
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