• Man Uses Corporate Personhood to Fight Carpool Lane Ticket
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[quote]Corporate personhood takes a new leap forward Monday as a Marin County motorist challenges his traffic ticket by arguing it was OK to drive in the carpool lane because his corporation was with him. Jonathan Frieman, a local activist and nonprofit consultant, was ticketed Oct. 2 for driving in the carpool lane during restricted hours; the officer apparently wasn't impressed when Frieman showed him his incorporation papers. A traffic court hearing is scheduled for Monday afternoon. The fine for such a violation is $478, but Frieman, 59, of San Rafael, says that if the court rules against him Monday, he's prepared to appeal the case all the way to the California Supreme Court in an effort to expose the impracticality of corporate personhood. Corporate personhood, of course, has been at the heart of the ongoing debate over campaign finance ever since the U.S. Supreme Court's 2010 Citizens United ruling unleashed a torrent of corporate contributions. "Corporations are imaginary entities, and we've let them run wild," Frieman said in a news release. "Their original intent 200 years ago at the dawn of our nation was to serve human beings. So I'm wresting back that power by making their personhood serve me." California Vehicle Code section 470 defines a "person" as "a natural person, firm, copartnership, association, limited liability company, or corporation." Section 21655.5, under which Frieman was cited, states that "no person shall drive a vehicle upon lanes except in conformity with the instructions imparted by the official traffic control devices." Ford Greene, Frieman's attorney and a San Anselmo councilman, said the Vehicle Code makes "person" and "corporation" equivalent, so "when a corporation is present in one's car, it is sufficient to qualify as a two-person occupancy for commuter lane purposes. When the corporate presence in our electoral process is financially dominant, by parity it appears appropriate to recognize such presence in an automobile."[/quote] Source: [url]http://www.chicoer.com/ci_22325083/marin-man-uses-corporate-personhood-fight-carpool-lane[/url] Probably won't change anything but it would be awesome if it did.
Watch him win the ticket battle and get out of the ticket, just so corporations can stay people.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;39138122]Watch him win the ticket battle and get out of the ticket, just so corporations can stay people.[/QUOTE] They'll change the law when the common man can abuse it.
so he did it on purpose good on him
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;39138122]Watch him win the ticket battle and get out of the ticket, just so corporations can stay people.[/QUOTE] The second you do that, you open the goddamn [b]floodgates[/b]. I welcome either ruling, because on one hand we can do away with the insanity that is "Citizens United", where on the other hand as long as I hold a job in a corporation I'm free to use the carpool lane :v:
They will probably rule against him simply stating that the papers, not the corporation were in the car with him, and the papers do not = a person or corporation as a whole. Therefore the idea of corporate personhood continues to never be turned over and he still has to pay his ticket
[QUOTE=KorJax;39138311]They will probably rule against him simply stating that the papers, not the corporation were in the car with him, and the papers do not = a person or corporation as a whole. Therefore the idea of corporate personhood continues to never be turned over and he still has to pay his ticket[/QUOTE] If the papers aren't "the corporation", then what physical manifestation of the corporation is there? If there isn't, how can there be any "corporations are people"?
on a slightly related and funny note, courts have ruled in favor of pregnant mothers using carpool lanes, citing the fetus as a second passanger
The idea that corporations are people is something that only the american officials could come up with. I wonder what googles favorite movie is.
[QUOTE=Dr. Fishtastic;39139994]on a slightly related and funny note, courts have ruled in favor of pregnant mothers using carpool lanes, citing the fetus as a second passanger[/QUOTE] Ahahaha, That's what the conservatives get for citing a unborn baby is a person no matter how old it actually is.
If Corporations are people, doesn't that mean the managers of Hostess are guilty of voluntary manslaughter? Does it mean Bain Capital is a serial killer? Corporate personhood doesn't make any sense, and it's clearly just a fucked up twist in logic that the Supreme Court used to subvert the constitution.
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