Sweden Democrats Threaten to Block Budget to Create 'Political Crisis'
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Would be interesting to see if UKIP did stuff like this in the UK:
[URL]http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/sweden-democrats-plan-to-create-political-crisis-1-3622581[/URL]
[QUOTE]The far-right Sweden Democrat party has declared its intention to create a political crisis and bring down the country’s progressive Social-Democrat/Green coalition government by blocking their budget in a crucial vote this Wednesday.
The party, which holds the balance of power in the Swedish parliament and is part of UKIP’s EFDD group in Brussels, won an unprecedented 13 per cent of the vote in recent elections.
It has suggested it will vote for the opposition Conservative-Liberal budget and bring chaos to the government if its demands are not met.
The Swedish newspaper Expressen revealed on Monday a leaked email from the Sweden Democrats showing that they were planning for new elections if they should topple the government.
The party had begun cataloguing resources to see if it could fight a new election campaign, according to the newspaper.[/QUOTE]
They just went full GOP.
I swear Sweden is a containment country for radicals.
It's like they're being [i]ironic[/i] about it. When US House Republicans did the exact same thing, they pretended like it was the democrats' fault. You can't outright admit "I'm going to put my own selfish desires in front of the well being of the people". If you do it, at least have the balls to blame your opponent for it
Legit insanity, the oppositions budget does NOT prioritise what they want.
They're shooting themselves in the foot, or they want to force themselves into being the balance of power, alternatively an alliance with the right-wing.
They have similar interests like the left (improved elder care, health care etc) but still go with the right which by no account has that in mind.
In this move, SD has managed to screw over literally every single swedish voter. Not a single one of us will get what was expected.
hahahaha fuckers now you know how we feel for once
This isn't SDs fault, but rather the other parties inability to work with them. You reap what you sow, and this is only Löfven's fault. I am glad they actually had the balls to go through with this, and I am glad I voted for them.
[QUOTE=The fox;46624998]This isn't SDs fault, but rather the other parties inability to work with them. You reap what you sow, and this is only Löfven's fault. I am glad they actually had the balls to go through with this, and I am glad I voted for them.[/QUOTE]
The proposed S budget already matched some of SD's goals, like the elder care etc, when you say "work with them" do you mean "completely change party tactics and match the opposition?". If you want people working with you, you can't jsut go "waaaah" as soon as something doesn't fit you. Had SD been level-headed and not fucked up like this they would've gained eventual support and maybe even confidence among other parties. Now they will forever be known as a party that is willing to force it's demands when it can't immediately get what it wants, like a big crybaby.
Löfven tried to be in reason with some of SD's goals, especially if those goals already kind of match from both parties. There was room made for those things in the budget. But apparently both SD voters and politicians only seem to care about the immigration politics for whatever insane reason, and completely miss out on the big picture. Saying that this is Löfvens fault is like saying "If Löfven only had voted SD this would never have happened".
I wish the right could compromise with the left. Giving SD any power at all would be sooooo destructive.
They already said they would block the budget yesterday, or am i missing something
Anyway, Live link to the hearings if anyone is interested [url=http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=83&artikel=6033571]Linky[/url]
Just cooperate with them so shit wont go down
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;46627152]Just cooperate with them so shit wont go down[/QUOTE]
Which would set a horrible precedence
What really annoyed me this election was that a lot of people I know didn't want SD to have seats so bad they calculated which party they needed to vote on so that they could take seats from SD.
While I don't want SD in the government either, that's not the right way to do it. And if many others thought like this, no shit we're in this situation right now.
[QUOTE=BreenIsALie;46627166]Which would set a horrible precedence[/QUOTE]
isn't that point of politics?
like, people working together with compromises?
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;46627152]Just cooperate with them so shit wont go down[/QUOTE]
They did. The fact SD does this over one stinking thing aka immigration politics truly shows that the party and their voters literally only care about the immigration politics and nothing else.
[QUOTE=Deng;46627917]isn't that point of politics?
like, people working together with compromises?[/QUOTE]
Bluntly described; SD's "politics" consists of blaming the "immigrants" in Sweden (in reality anyone who 'looks' foreign) for any/all problems in our economics/social issues/etc. Many of the party's members are convicted criminals and/or confirmed/former nazis/fascists and there has been numerous scandals where party members are involved in racist/fascist statements and actions.
The problem here is that, obvious differences aside, the leftists and the social democrats and SD agrees on many points in the budget; SD even used some of it as leverage in their election campaign, but now they are prioritizing their own (and ultimately, the right-wing and upper class) agendas and goals instead of the people's needs and requests. Which shows that they really only care about gaining power and leverage so they can achieve their own fascist/racist-tinged goals.
[QUOTE=BuddieBBB;46628152]Bluntly described; SD's "politics" consists of blaming the "immigrants" in Sweden (in reality anyone who 'looks' foreign) for any/all problems in our economics/social issues/etc. Many of the party's members are convicted criminals and/or confirmed/former nazis/fascists and there has been numerous scandals where party members are involved in racist/fascist statements and actions.
The problem here is that, obvious differences aside, the leftists and the social democrats and SD agrees on many points in the budget; SD even used some of it as leverage in their election campaign, but now they are prioritizing their own (and ultimately, the right-wing and upper class) agendas and goals instead of the people's needs and requests. Which shows that they really only care about gaining power and leverage so they can achieve their own fascist/racist-tinged goals.[/QUOTE]
How come they won so many seats then? If their non-immigration policies are similar to the other parties, then why did people vote for the SD rather than other parties?
Isn't that how democracy is supposed to work?
Seriously, fuck SD. There's a new scandal surrounding this party on a weekly basis and they've done so much shit I'm surprised that people are still supporting them. This news alone should be enough to turn people off from SD, but it won't.
[QUOTE=Deng;46628162]How come they won so many seats then? If their non-immigration policies are similar to the other parties, then why did people vote for the SD rather than other parties?
Isn't that how democracy is supposed to work?[/QUOTE]
Because islamophobia and racism is on the rise in Sweden. Sweden accepts a lot of immigrants, more so than we should, and this has created a "us vs them" sort of mentality in Sweden, where the Sweden Democrats are rallying people against foreigners (muslims in particular).
The issue is a lot more complicated than I'm making it seem, but in its most basic form that's the situation we're in.
[QUOTE=Deng;46628162]How come they won so many seats then? If their non-immigration policies are similar to the other parties, then why did people vote for the SD rather than other parties?
Isn't that how democracy is supposed to work?[/QUOTE]
From my own perspective I honestly don't know. But I suppose there is an allure in looking for the easiest scapegoat and answers in tougher times (compared to before that is). Also many of SD's new voters this election came from our right-wings biggest party, which either shows that they voted for SD to support more social-democratic/leftist goals without "getting the whole package" so to speak (which is rather ironic considering that they are blocking the budget), or because they simply agree with their xenophobic views.
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That's the thing with Åkesson; he has the ability to look so cute and innocent
[QUOTE=proboardslol;46624615]It's like they're being [i]ironic[/i] about it. When US House Republicans did the exact same thing, they pretended like it was the democrats' fault. You can't outright admit "I'm going to put my own selfish desires in front of the well being of the people". If you do it, at least have the balls to blame your opponent for it[/QUOTE]
Uh... I'm pretty sure it takes more balls to be upfront about it than to blame the opposition, which is the default stance of most parties anyway. Neither makes it good though - you're still screwing with the people because you're a fucking child.
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He looks like that kid in class who always reminds the teacher about the homework.
i know its not gonna happen but a reelection would be sweet
[QUOTE=Deng;46628162]How come they won so many seats then? If their non-immigration policies are similar to the other parties, then why did people vote for the SD rather than other parties?
Isn't that how democracy is supposed to work?[/QUOTE]
Because the voters only want one thing and thinks everything hangs on that one thing. Nevermind the fact that Sweden has had a lot of prosperity while accepting immigrants for almost 30 years.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/ePcyoiS.png[/t]
Translation: "RIGHT NOW: GOVERNMENT RISKS FALLING"
Sensationalism at its finest :v:
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[img]http://i.imgur.com/Y49hAAF.jpg[/img]
"This is a Tragedy" says Magdalena Andersson(S)
[QUOTE=G-Strogg;46628298]Because the voters only want one thing and thinks everything hangs on that one thing. Nevermind the fact that Sweden has had a lot of prosperity while accepting immigrants for almost 30 years.[/QUOTE]
So i guess You are one of those voters Who thinks that You are a huge racist and nothing else because you vote for SD? I Never understood why People thinks that.
Vote happened. SD voted no, the budget proposal was denied. S and MP have a "dramatic" press conference in 13 minutes.
[editline]3rd December 2014[/editline]
Oh also, a spokesman for SD got some air time and spent the majority of it talking about immigration. Of course.
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