I just felt like playing Crysis, never had since my PC sucked before, and even though I have a powerful PC, Crysis lags like hell on Very High (makes sense), alot on High, quite alot on Medium and every once in a while on Low settings... -_-
Here's my specs:
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Édition Familiale Premium (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2
(6002.vistasp2_gdr.100608-0458)
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 7550 Dual-Core Processor (2 CPUs), ~2.5GHz
Memory: 4094MB RAM
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce G210
Display Memory: 2288 MB
Dedicated Memory: 497 MB
Shared Memory: 1791 MB
I think I added a few uneeded things and sorry for the French stuff. :P
So, any way I can increase the performance and get Crysis to run better? Or just not increase anything but still get it to run?
Update graphics card, close unnecessary processes with task manager, play Starcraft II instead.. etc.
[QUOTE=Ali Legend;25437207]Update graphics card, close unnecessary processes with task manager, play Starcraft II instead.. etc.[/QUOTE]
I'm getting a driver update, closed a fw programs (always do), and I'm NOT going to play Starcraft II. It sucks.
It's your graphics card, it's not designed for games. Everything else is fine.
See if you could afford something like uhh, a GTX460. Well...how much can you afford?
[QUOTE=Kai365;25437347]It's your graphics card, it's not designed for games. Everything else is fine.
See if you could afford something like uhh, a GTX460. Well...how much can you afford?[/QUOTE]
Like... nothing...
Too bad for me. Bought Crysis a while ago, I'll just have to play it lagging.
:I well get something new as soon as you can, calling the 210 a bottleneck in your PC would be a major understatement. [B]Unleash the power![/B]
[QUOTE=Kai365;25438121] [B]Unleash the power![/B][/QUOTE]
How? =P
YOU must use the Overlcocking(wait that's wrong)OverClocking feature(still grammarly incorrect BUT HEY)
[QUOTE=The Leader11;25437320]I'm getting a driver update, closed a fw programs (always do), and I'm NOT going to play Starcraft II. It sucks.[/QUOTE]
WHAT?
It's great.
Your PC isn't good enough for most games, your video card only has a 64-bit memory bus, 512MB of VRAM, and 500mhz GPU. That CPU isn't that great either, but thats not as big a deal as the low-end video card.
Basically, you need an upgrade. Badly.
[QUOTE=GetOutOfBox;25439737]Your PC isn't good enough for most games, your video card only has a 64-bit memory bus, 512MB of VRAM, and 500mhz GPU. That CPU isn't that great either, but thats not as big a deal as the low-end video card.
Basically, you need an upgrade. Badly.[/QUOTE]
Not really, a OC would provide some benefits, but it wont be marginal.
Besides OP you don't have the cash right? If you do Go to the PC building section NOW.
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~;25439755]Not really, a OC would provide some benefits, but it wont be marginal.
Besides OP you don't have the cash right? If you do Go to the PC building section NOW.[/QUOTE]
Overclocking won't fix the tiny memory bus-width or only having 512MB of VRAM, and anyways overclocking GPU's is usually just a novelty, they're usually factory-overclocked already, so you won't get much out of it.
[QUOTE=GetOutOfBox;25439880]Overclocking won't fix the tiny memory bus-width or only having 512MB of VRAM, and anyways overclocking GPU's is usually just a novelty, they're usually factory-overclocked already, so you won't get much out of it.[/QUOTE]
Bus is fine, fool.
And generally 512MB is really enough.(For some games anyways Crysis is being one of them if you run it at DX9)
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~;25438622]YOU must use the Overlcocking(wait that's wrong)OverClocking feature(still grammarly incorrect BUT HEY)
WHAT?
It's great.[/QUOTE]
Was that meant to be a joke? I honestly can't tell.
[QUOTE=BlkDucky;25439996]Was that meant to be a joke? I honestly can't tell.[/QUOTE]
Which one, starcraft II or OCing
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~;25439917]Bus is fine, fool.
And generally 512MB is really enough.(For some games anyways Crysis is being one of them if you run it at DX9)[/QUOTE]
I could make a rage response and derail the thread but I won't, since that will only encourage you.
A 64-bit memory bus is not fine, my old Radeon 9200 had a 128-bit bus width, and it was shit. In games with high-resolution textures having a low-bus width will really drag down your FPS.
512MB is often not enough even for games like Oblivion, let alone Crysis. I have a Radeon 4850, 1GB VRAM, 750MHZ GPU, 256-bit memory bus-width and I don't get a stable 40FPS. Of course he's going to lag with the card he has.
[QUOTE=GetOutOfBox;25440021]I could make a rage response and derail the thread but I won't, since that will only encourage you.
A 64-bit memory bus is not fine, my Radeon 9200 had a 128-bit bus width, and it was shit. In games with high-resolution textures having a low-bus width will really drag down your FPS.
512MB is often not enough even for games like Oblivion, let alone Crysis. I have a Radeon 4850, 1GB VRAM, 750MHZ GPU, 256-bit memory bus-width and I don't get a stable 40FPS. Of course he's going to lag with the card he has.[/QUOTE]
Upgrade is still last choice IMO.
Anyways, bottom line something is Bottle necking it so meh. I'm always willing to scrap over clocking, IF YOU REALLY THINK IT WONT MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
I don't really want to buy a new video card just to play Crysis. Most other games work fine, like Mass Effect 2 on max graphics with an ok resolution (1280 somethin'...). I get an average 30 FPS on Mass Effect 2 and most other newer games on max graphics.
I'l just play the lottery more, hope I win and buy the best Alienware PC.
[QUOTE=The Leader11;25440120]I don't really want to buy a new video card just to play Crysis. Most other games work fine, like Mass Effect 2 on max graphics with an ok resolution (1280 somethin'...). I get an average 30 FPS on Mass Effect 2 and most other newer games on max graphics.
I'l just play the lottery more, hope I win and buy the best Alienware PC.[/QUOTE]
No build you fool.
And the only reason why you buy Alienware is for the cases.
GOD THERE SO FUCKING SEXY AND COOL.
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~;25440143]No build you fool.
And the only reason why you buy Alienware is for the cases.
GOD THERE SO FUCKING SEXY AND COOL.[/QUOTE]
And powerful, don't say they ain't powerful.
[QUOTE=The Leader11;25440180]And powerful, don't say they ain't powerful.[/QUOTE]
Also a good fucking waste of money, besides your better off learning, NO ONE CAN DENY THE GREATNESS OF LEARNING!
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~;25440211]Also a good fucking waste of money[/QUOTE]
It's not really a waste if you win the possible 100 million Euro lottery here.
[QUOTE=The Leader11;25440329]It's not really a waste if you win the possible 100 million Euro lottery here.[/QUOTE]
and that is 1 in a X
(X is how many enter)
[QUOTE=GetOutOfBox;25440021]I could make a rage response and derail the thread but I won't, since that will only encourage you.
A 64-bit memory bus is not fine, my old Radeon 9200 had a 128-bit bus width, and it was shit. In games with high-resolution textures having a low-bus width will really drag down your FPS.
512MB is often not enough even for games like Oblivion, let alone Crysis. I have a Radeon 4850, 1GB VRAM, 750MHZ GPU, 256-bit memory bus-width and I don't get a stable 40FPS. Of course he's going to lag with the card he has.[/QUOTE]
There's a lot more to gpus than just the clockspeeds, bus width and the amount of memory. You can't just compare those numbers in terms of higher quantity == faster GPU.
[editline]16th October 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=The Leader11;25436703]I have a powerful PC[/QUOTE]
Sure you do. You aren't getting any better than playable low settings with that G210 of yours.
1:Your GPU sucks alot. It isnt good at playing any games and should be replaced ASAP.
2:All alienware pc's suck and are at least 30% overpriced, they also use cheap components and horrible looking cases.
[QUOTE=pebkac;25442973]There's a lot more to gpus than just the clockspeeds, bus width and the amount of memory. You can't just compare those numbers in terms of higher quantity == faster GPU.
[editline]16th October 2010[/editline]
Sure you do. You aren't getting any better than playable low settings with that G210 of yours.[/QUOTE]
Really, what else is there to GPU's other than bus-width/speed, VRAM capacity, GPU clock, and interface? In fact thats exactly how you decide a better GPU. For example, according to your logic, just because the Radeon 5890 has hugely superior specs to that of a RIVA TNT2 video card, the RIVA could still be better.
[QUOTE=GetOutOfBox;25445201]Really, what else is there to GPU's other than bus-width/speed, VRAM capacity, GPU clock, and interface? In fact thats exactly how you decide a better GPU. For example, according to your logic, just because the Radeon 5890 has hugely superior specs to that of a RIVA TNT2 video card, the RIVA could still be better.[/QUOTE]
You've missed the fundamental thing about the GPUs that makes them as great as they are: They don't process a single piece of data at once, instead they do many operations at the same time. They're basically a cluster of many simple processors. You have texture mapping units, shader units(also called stream processors/CUDA cores/whatever the hell you want to call them), and other processing units in a GPU, each doing their own job. In image rendering and processing, all these processors can get utilised really efficiently, since an image is made out of many pixels. Each of the processing units can simultaneously work on their own pixels, meaning more processing units = more pixels get processed in the same amount of time.
Seriously, why do you think that GPUs double in performance in every generation, when clockspeeds much slower? For example, a 5870 is about twice as fast as a 4870, even though it's clockspeed isn't much higher (850 vs 750MHz). The 5870 has 1600 shaders, 4870 has only 800. 5870 has 80 TMUs, 4870 has 40, etc.
Also the amount of RAM is irrelevant. As long as it's enough to store all the needed data, adding more won't increase the performance.
I think you should Get Out Of The Box :smug:
[QUOTE=pebkac;25446343]You've missed the fundamental thing about the GPUs that makes them as great as they are: They don't process a single piece of data at once, instead they do many operations at the same time. They're basically a cluster of many simple processors. You have texture mapping units, shader units(also called stream processors/CUDA cores/whatever the hell you want to call them), and other processing units in a GPU, each doing their own job. In image rendering and processing, all these processors can get utilised really efficiently, since an image is made out of many pixels. Each of the processing units can simultaneously work on their own pixels, meaning more processing units = more pixels get processed in the same amount of time.
Seriously, why do you think that GPUs double in performance in every generation, when clockspeeds much slower? For example, a 5870 is about twice as fast as a 4870, even though it's clockspeed isn't much higher (850 vs 750MHz). The 5870 has 1600 shaders, 4870 has only 800. 5870 has 80 TMUs, 4870 has 40, etc.
Also the amount of RAM is irrelevant. As long as it's enough to store all the needed data, adding more won't increase the performance.
I think you should Get Out Of The Box :smug:[/QUOTE]
First off I think I should just put it out there that this isn't some kind of contest of who can show the other up, we're trying to help the OP out. Acting smug and making snide comments isn't going to help anyone.
Second of all, what you've just said changes nothing, since its not like his GPU has crappy clock speeds/bus width/etc but has an insane amount of stream processors, everything's still to scale. His card was not made for gaming. Period.
Last but not least, the amount of RAM is always relevant in todays gaming world, many games push the limit on 1GB of VRAM. Game's like Crysis still perform below many people's standards with 1GB of VRAM. People SLI/Crossfire two or even 3 GPU's together and still don't get the performance they want, and you're arguing that his card should somehow be capable of running Crysis at a normal framerate?
Can we all just agree that the OP's card isn't up to the challenge?
Also, what DX level are you running Crysis at, OP?
How did you end up with a 210 in such a decent computer?
[QUOTE=that guy;25454766]How did you end up with a 210 in such a decent computer?[/QUOTE]
Typical prebuilt.
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