Australian Cops Shut Down Ken Block's Gymkhana Nine Before It Happened
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[b]Australian Cops Shut Down Ken Block's Gymkhana Nine Before It Happened[/b]
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Tomorrow the world will bear witness to Gymkhana Nine, Ken Block’s latest video extravaganza of tire smoke and high-speed hatchback tomfoolery, much of it set against the lush and exotic backdrop of Buffalo, New York. But there was a location even more picturesque than Buffalo in mind originally, if you can believe it: Sydney, Australia. That didn’t happen, and here’s why.
A decision not to grant Block’s production company the necessary shooting permits led Australia to be scuttled, even though the Hoonigan crew offered to make, for free, a PSA after the video ran about the dangers of hooning.
Both Hoonigan Racing and officials with Australia’s New South Wales Police confirmed to Jalopnik that the production crew originally wanted to film the new video in Australia, specifically in Sydney’s Central Business District and on the Sydney Harbor Bridge. (Update: the folks from Hoonigan asked me to add that they’re partnered with Forza Horizon 3 and the game is set in Australia, so that’s why they wanted to go down there.)
Production would have required shutting down those areas so that Block could conduct his acts of vehicular insanity, just like in Dubai in Gymkhana Eight and Los Angeles in 2014's Gymkhana Seven.
That was not to be, Hoonigan’s Matt Tuccillo told us.
“The police down there started to make things difficult with the permitting process for the locations we were trying to secure, both public and private,” he said. “Apparently we were going to be ‘bad’ for Australia and as we got closer and closer to filming we started to lose more and more locations that we had secured, ultimately forcing us to abandon the concept.”
Tuccillo said the original concept for the video was to shoot in a mix of industrial and raw spaces, full of “locations that were iconic and instantly recognizable as Australia” like the Sydney Opera House.
That was not to be. A police spokesperson said that this request was deemed “not possible,” though they did not elaborate. Police said it was suggested the crew shoot on nearby Cockatoo Island in Sydney Harbor instead, but those permit applications were never submitted.[/quote]
He should have used the legendary Aussie outback instead... Mad Max style.
[editline]13th September 2016[/editline]
For those unfamiliar with Ken Block's automotive shenanigans, this is his latest (as of today) Gymkhana, in Dubai.
[hd]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hf6ke1-i3E[/hd]
A pity. I wish the government and the cops weren't such fuckwits about cars in this nation. They seem to be convinced they really can reduce our road toll to zero and are willing to stamp on everyone to achieve it.
[QUOTE=download;51042808]A pity. I wish the government and the cops weren't such fuckwits about cars in this nation. They seem to be convinced they really can reduce our road toll to zero and are willing to stamp on everyone to achieve it.[/QUOTE]
I heard you guys had a bunch of different license categories and that you are banned from owning certain vehicles until you are a certain age or something.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;51042825]I heard you guys had a bunch of different license categories and that you are banned from owning certain vehicles until you are a certain age or something.[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah.
[url=http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/geared/your_car/buying/p1_p2_prohibited_vehicles.html]http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/geared/your_car/buying/p1_p2_prohibited_vehicles.html[/url]
While this may seem harsh they're trying to limit beginner drivers from having cars that are too much for them to handle. The statistics on road fatalities since the implementation are fun reading.
It also has the added benefit of preventing Australian CubeMans.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;51042825]I heard you guys had a bunch of different license categories and that you are banned from owning certain vehicles until you are a certain age or something.[/QUOTE]
Depends on the state, I believe Queensland and maybe New South Wales has a ban on P plate drivers driving V8 engines. In my state (West Australia) theres no such restriction.
Considering how much road rage there is in Australia, I'm not surprised they are restrictive.
[QUOTE=download;51042808]A pity. I wish the government and the cops weren't such fuckwits about cars in this nation. They seem to be convinced they really can reduce our road toll to zero and are willing to stamp on everyone to achieve it.[/QUOTE]
I'm amazed you folks have a car culture at all, let alone one of the best on earth
Y'all motherfuckers gotta work for your cars and you're still crazier than everyone else.
[QUOTE=Whomobile;51042846]Depends on the state, I believe Queensland and maybe New South Wales has a ban on P plate drivers driving V8 engines. In my state (West Australia) theres no such restriction.[/QUOTE]
Do they not realize you can make like 600 horsepower on a 4 cylinder turbo motor and 150 horse from a 5 liter flathead v8?
Who the fuck is calling these shots?
[QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;51042999]I'm amazed you folks have a car culture at all, let alone one of the best on earth
Y'all motherfuckers gotta work for your cars and you're still crazier than everyone else.
Do they not realize you can make like 600 horsepower on a 4 cylinder turbo motor and 150 horse from a 5 liter flathead v8?
Who the fuck is calling these shots?[/QUOTE]
Same sort of people who are usually behind regulations like that, I suspect
People who don't actually know the first thing about the thing they're pushing for regulations on
[QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;51042999]
Do they not realize you can make like 600 horsepower on a 4 cylinder turbo motor and 150 horse from a 5 liter flathead v8?
Who the fuck is calling these shots?[/QUOTE]
Actually in most states any turbo, V8 or performance N/A V6 are banned for P platers (provisional licence which has a multitude of other restrictions as well, such as passenger limits and only able to go upto a certain speed, which is below the actual road speed limit). As Whomobile said, Western Australia doesn't have restrictions so we're all free to drive whatever we want, with whoever we want at whatever speed we want.
The restrictions are dumb as hell because they very, very, very rarely do anything to actually prevent crashes. Only 0.02% of fatal crashes involving P platers in Western Australia involved a Turbo/V8/Performance 6 cylinder hence why we don't have rules regarding it. Another issue is that it bans you from driving a V8 Landcruiser yet it's perfectly legal to drive an MX5, Commodore, Honda S200 etc.
Honestly the hoonlaws in Australia are stupid, they are put in place to make money make it seem like the government is doing something about it when in reality it is making things worse, such as people running from the cops due to the fact places have a 1st strike inpound/crush law. The main problem is that it can be tiny offenses that get your car hoonlawed. Accidentally spin the wheels in your Daewoo lanos in the wet? Yup that's a hoon law offense, if a cop is there to see it say goodbye to your car.
Hooning on the streets isn't a good thing, but the problem is there is a lack of places to do it, the government tries to shutdown a lot of places people open up to satisfy their needs. Recently a race track in Perth, at the airport, was closed down due to noise complaints by a single person (Yet the planes don't bother him?)
[QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;51042999]Do they not realize you can make like 600 horsepower on a 4 cylinder turbo motor and 150 horse from a 5 liter flathead v8?
Who the fuck is calling these shots?[/QUOTE]
In NSW it used to be that, if you were on your provisional licence, you couldn't drive anything that had more than six cylinders, or had forced induction if it were a petrol engine. There was also a blacklist of cars you couldn't drive even if they met the criteria, such as the Skyline 350GT (was a shame, I was on the verge of buying one just before I realised I couldn't legally drive it), TVRs and Porsches.
But then they realised that it prevented P platers from driving economy cars with tiny turbocharged engines. So they changed the restrictions to a catch-all one where P platers can't drive anything that has a power-to-weight ratio greater than 130kW/metric tonne. Pretty much the fastest cars that fit within that limit are the Honda Integra Type-S, Ford Focus XR5 Turbo (Focus ST) and some Subaru Impreza WRXs. The change also meant that some cars which used to be allowed, such as the Honda S2000, were banned.
In SA they banned V6s with turbos and all V8s from P platers. Everyone who wanted a fast car instead got themselves a WRX. All it really managed to achieve was pissing off people who wanted a 4x4 which were nearly always V8s or V6 turbos.
[QUOTE=Animosus;51043035]Honestly the hoonlaws in Australia are stupid, they are put in place to make money make it seem like the government is doing something about it when in reality it is making things worse, such as people running from the cops due to the fact places have a 1st strike inpound/crush law. The main problem is that it can be tiny offenses that get your car hoonlawed. Accidentally spin the wheels in your Daewoo lanos in the wet? Yup that's a hoon law offense, if a cop is there to see it say goodbye to your car.
Hooning on the streets isn't a good thing, but the problem is there is a lack of places to do it, the government tries to shutdown a lot of places people open up to satisfy their needs. Recently a race track in Perth, at the airport, was closed down due to noise complaints by a single person (Yet the planes don't bother him?)[/QUOTE]
Depends on the cop and how you behave. If you act like a right dickhead with a fuck the police mentality then yeah, they'll go out of their way to defect your car. But if you act like a respectful human being, they'll probably let you off. An unmarked cop car pulled me over for doing a burnout once but he let me off with a warning because I wasn't a piece of shit to him.
And honestly, the owners of most cars that get impounded deserve it because most of the time the owner absolutely ruins an otherwise fine car by slamming it, giving it huge wheels with paper-thin tyres, cutting the muffler off etc. The only time I approve of a literal fashion police.
[QUOTE=Animosus;51043035]Hooning on the streets isn't a good thing, but the problem is there is a lack of places to do it, the government tries to shutdown a lot of places people open up to satisfy their needs. Recently a race track in Perth, at the airport, was closed down due to noise complaints by a single person (Yet the planes don't bother him?)[/QUOTE]
Oh shit I remember that, something similar happened to a hockey club near me. It's a pretty shitty situation too because they really help the bowls club building/space they operate out of.
European licenses make perfect sense to me instead.. Why cant everyone adopt something like them.
For the first years after acquiring a license you can only drive cars under 75hp/ton, and not more than 95hp total. After that you can drive everything.
Would be better off actually teaching people how to drive rather than imposing restrictions
[QUOTE=maxolina;51043267]European licenses make perfect sense to me instead.. Why cant everyone adopt something like them.
For the first years after acquiring a license you can only drive cars under 75hp/ton, and not more than 95hp total. After that you can drive everything.[/QUOTE]
We've already pretty much got this in vic.
[editline]13th September 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Animosus;51043278]Would be better off actually teaching people how to drive rather than imposing restrictions[/QUOTE]
Yep, restrictions don't stop fuckin idiot drivers
We have enough teaching. The problem is the government (as usual) like to blame every young driver for the actions of a tiny minority.
[QUOTE=download;51043297]We have enough teaching. The problem is the government (as usual) like to blame every young driver for the actions of a tiny minority.[/QUOTE]
What? Driving training in Australia is a joke at best. It's all about how to pass the test and not how to drive. If they were serious about it there would be testing on what to do on an emergancy situation (not just a quick paragraph in the book), how to correct if you get into a slide as well as basic car maintanence along with common courtsey on the roads.
imo it should be a series of tests that's part of high school rather than a "be all end all" test that you do once. Would definitely make things more natural and less nerve racking.
[QUOTE=maxolina;51043267]European licenses make perfect sense to me instead.. Why cant everyone adopt something like them.
For the first years after acquiring a license you can only drive cars under 75hp/ton, and not more than 95hp total. After that you can drive everything.[/QUOTE]
what.
We have A, B, C, D, +E/+e
B is normal car (up to 3500kg), and you can drive whatever the fuck you want once you get it. A is for bikes, C is for trucks and D for bus. E is for trailer, i.e I have BECE license which means I can tow a >750kg trailer with a normal car and whatever trailer with a truck
[QUOTE=Animosus;51043340]What? Driving training in Australia is a joke at best. It's all about how to pass the test and not how to drive. If they were serious about it there would be testing on what to do on an emergancy situation (not just a quick paragraph in the book), how to correct if you get into a slide as well as basic car maintanence along with common courtsey on the roads.[/QUOTE]
I dunno about other states, but getting my license in SA wasn't the easiest thing ever + most schools offered a shitton of mandatory and optional driving courses/lessons
[QUOTE=HAKKAR!!!;51043560]I dunno about other states, but getting my license in SA wasn't the easiest thing ever + most schools offered a shitton of mandatory and optional driving courses/lessons[/QUOTE]
We used to have lessons at high school in WA but they canned it as not many people seemed to have intrest in it.
Before I got my Ps I did ten hours of training with a professional instructor (they counted as triple in my logbook - so instead of doing 120 hours on my Ls, I only had to do 100 hours). Cost like $400 or so I think, honestly can't remember, but it helped a lot. Something like that should be mandatory although obviously that can get quite expensive.
whats a professional instructor? Do you otherwise get tutored by shit drivers?
[QUOTE=SEKCobra;51045132]whats a professional instructor? Do you otherwise get tutored by shit drivers?[/QUOTE]
The majority of your logbook hours are done behind the wheel while with someone else in the passenger seat who is on their full licence, regardless of whether they've had it for 20 days or 20 years. Professional instructors are registered and you can be sure that they will teach you well, unlike parents or friends who aren't necessarily good drivers. Hence why every hour with a professional instructor counts for three hours in the logbook.
I was one of the very few people who actually did every one of the 100 hours in my logbook. A lot of people fake the hours in their logbook because it's hard for the RTA to prove otherwise. Of course at the end of it all there's a comprehensive driving test on public roads in your own car with a RTA tester in the passenger seat (where they test you for safe driving, at intersections, roundabouts, merging onto highways, reverse-parallel parking, u-turns etc), where you're only allowed up to two very minor mistakes before they'll fail you.
[QUOTE=Animosus;51043035]Actually in most states any turbo, V8 or performance N/A V6 are banned for P platers (provisional licence which has a multitude of other restrictions as well, such as passenger limits and only able to go upto a certain speed, which is below the actual road speed limit). As Whomobile said, Western Australia doesn't have restrictions so we're all free to drive whatever we want, with whoever we want at whatever speed we want.
The restrictions are dumb as hell because they very, very, very rarely do anything to actually prevent crashes. Only 0.02% of fatal crashes involving P platers in Western Australia involved a Turbo/V8/Performance 6 cylinder hence why we don't have rules regarding it. Another issue is that it bans you from driving a V8 Landcruiser yet it's perfectly legal to drive an MX5, Commodore, Honda S200 etc.
Honestly the hoonlaws in Australia are stupid, they are put in place to make money make it seem like the government is doing something about it when in reality it is making things worse, such as people running from the cops due to the fact places have a 1st strike inpound/crush law. The main problem is that it can be tiny offenses that get your car hoonlawed. Accidentally spin the wheels in your Daewoo lanos in the wet? Yup that's a hoon law offense, if a cop is there to see it say goodbye to your car.
Hooning on the streets isn't a good thing, but the problem is there is a lack of places to do it, the government tries to shutdown a lot of places people open up to satisfy their needs. Recently a race track in Perth, at the airport, was closed down due to noise complaints by a single person (Yet the planes don't bother him?)[/QUOTE]
Actually this is no longer correct, most states now run on a power to weight restriction. P platers can't drive cars with a power to weight ratio over 130kw/t.
Not surprising they moved it here to Buffalo. Lots of abandoned shit and industrial sites.
So it's even worse in Australia than in the UK? And I thought the Brits had it tough.
[QUOTE=sb27;51043079]Depends on the cop and how you behave. If you act like a right dickhead with a fuck the police mentality then yeah, they'll go out of their way to defect your car. But if you act like a respectful human being, they'll probably let you off. An unmarked cop car pulled me over for doing a burnout once but he let me off with a warning because I wasn't a piece of shit to him.
And honestly, the owners of most cars that get impounded deserve it because most of the time the owner absolutely ruins an otherwise fine car by slamming it, giving it huge wheels with paper-thin tyres, cutting the muffler off etc. The only time I approve of a literal fashion police.[/QUOTE]
Oh man you are super cool, they definitely deserve to lose projects that can easily become tens of thousands of bucks because people don't understand that some folks actually know how to drive
[QUOTE=No Party Hats;51049221]Oh man you are super cool, they definitely deserve to lose projects that can easily become tens of thousands of bucks because people don't understand that some folks actually know how to drive[/QUOTE]
you dont even have to go that far, any cheap manual econobox can chirp its tires coming off the line, especially if the driver is new to a car or clutch, its almost unavoidable. ive heard stories from my friends who started on manuals of getting tickets for chirping their tires on accident at a light and a cop who was having a bad day/needed to fulfill their quota gave them a ticket for it.
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