• Homeless man steals credit card to buy beer. Bartender realizes it was his credit card.
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[quote]David Weber, 53, of Miami Beach, allegedly broke into a car and lifted a credit card, which he then used to buy a beer. Unfortunately for him, the card belonged to the bartender. A celebratory beer turned out to be a bad idea for a homeless man who used a stolen credit card — which actually belonged to the bartender. David Weber, 53, allegedly broke into a car in a parking garage Monday night and lifted a credit card from inside the vehicle, according to police in Miami Beach, Fla. With his new acquisition, cops said, he walked to the popular Ocean Drive club, The Clevelander, and ordered a beer. There, he handed over the card to the barkeep — the unbeknownst victim, the Miami Herald reported. That prompted the bartender to have security summon the police. Weber was charged with theft and credit card fraud, and then placed into Miami-Dade County Jail early Tuesday on a $1,500 bond, according to inmate records. Weber told police he found the card on the ground, the Herald reported. [/quote] [url=http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/whoops-alleged-thief-stolen-card-buy-beer-bartender-victim-article-1.1158294]:v:[/url] [img]http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1158293.1347541293!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/beer14n-1-web.jpg[/img]
What an unfortunate coincidence for the thief :v:
[QUOTE=VaSTinY;37650556]What an unfortunate coincidence for the thief :v:[/QUOTE] He used it on the same day and walked down the street to a bar.
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;37650590]He used it on the same day.[/QUOTE] I would too, I'd start buying shit straight away, before they guy who owns the card cancels it.
[QUOTE=Rents;37650613]I would too, I'd start buying shit straight away, before they guy who owns the card cancels it.[/QUOTE] You would think that the car you got your credit car from would have the owner be nearby and this guy walks to a bar down the street where he worked.
A man walks into a bar and uses a credit card to buy a bottle of beer when suddenly the bartender called in the cops and had him arrested. And the reason turns out that the credit card belongs to the bartender and the man so happens to have stolen it from him Sounded like a situation comedy plot
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;37650747]You would think that the car you got your credit car from would have the owner be nearby and this guy walks to a bar down the street where he worked.[/QUOTE] uh the only people who will see a name are the people doing the transactions you could be in line at walmart and the owner could be right behind you and he still wouldnt know you're using his card (assuming you don't get flagged)
How did he know the code, or do you not use chip and pin over there? If there's no chip and pin, I'd be fucking terrified to own a card.
[QUOTE=Terminutter;37651238]How did he know the code, or do you not use chip and pin over there? If there's no chip and pin, I'd be fucking terrified to own a card.[/QUOTE] it's a creditcard and not a debitcard.
[QUOTE=Wormy;37651256]Perhaps the bartender's name was on the credit card?[/QUOTE] You missed the point Terminutter said. If that bar/credit card does not use chip and pin, real owner of a card could have been in big trouble if the bum would have taken another bar/shop. Thus Terminutter would never ever use card that does not have chip and pin. Neither would I use such card, the pin atleast slows unwanted shopping.
[QUOTE=FalconKrunch;37651281]it's a creditcard and not a debitcard.[/QUOTE] Umm, credit cards here have chip and pin as well as debit cards. You swipe the credit / debit card, and give the pin. Both are required, or nothing happens. [QUOTE=Wormy;37651256]Perhaps the bartender's name was on the credit card?[/QUOTE] Article said "which he then used to buy a beer" which implies the sale went through, and the barkeep noticed afterwards.
Credit cards don't have a pin in the USA
[QUOTE=FunnyBunny;37651705]Credit cards don't have a pin in the USA[/QUOTE] That seems like a really stupid idea. Although I do now understand why credit card theft seems so common in american tv shows.
[QUOTE=aaro1450;37651965]That seems like a really stupid idea. Although I do now understand why credit card theft seems so common in american tv shows.[/QUOTE] Yeah it's pretty silly, that's why I only use debit. In the US if you have the number and the name you're good to go, I've used and signed for a purchase on a friend's mother's credit card and no flags went up or anything (I was paying for his gas with it while he was filling up)
I have a debt card, but if you select "Credit" instead of debt and the transaction isn't too much money (like 100$ or more) then it doesn't ask for a pin.Also the whole signing your name is bullshit. I have had my trusted friend use my card to buy something, he asked how to sigh my name, I said "First letter, scribble the rest" which isn't how I sign it but it was just fine....
The lack of two factor authentication for most things in the USA really bothers me. So much stupid shit could be avoided if that was enforced even moderately, and a lot of bank problems would evaporate if the banks had their faces shoved in the dirt by the feds when their security breeches screwed over costumers (see Bank of America). Which reminds me. I once saw something where two friends swapped credit cards and couldn't get the fraud detection to work until they tried to buy stuff worth 30 grand. This including doing things such as, but not limited too, signing their names as musical scores, not signing anything at all, signing as names not on the cards, signing as names of different genders, and more. The ultimate one was that one of the cards used for this was not signed, and a clerk told him she couldn't accept a card like that, so he signed the card in front of her after asking her for a pen, then she accepted everything. Fraud detection is better, somewhat, now, but nothing protects you from the combination of incompetence and no fucks given attitude of your average minimum wage worker. It's not theirs, and they don't care. Hell, with all the commissioned workers, you can argue it's not in their interest to check for stuff like this.
[QUOTE=ratman_122;37656645]Yeah it's pretty silly, that's why I only use debit. In the US if you have the number and the name you're good to go, I've used and signed for a purchase on a friend's mother's credit card and no flags went up or anything (I was paying for his gas with it while he was filling up)[/QUOTE] I pick stuff up for my dad with his card all the time. Apparently when you sign after the purchase they don't check for drawings either... [editline]13th September 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Zephyrs;37657143] This including doing things such as, but not limited too, signing their names as musical scores, not signing anything at all, signing as names not on the cards, signing as names of different genders, and more. The ultimate one was that one of the cards used for this was not signed, and a clerk told him she couldn't accept a card like that, so he signed the card in front of her after asking her for a pen, then she accepted everything. [/QUOTE] Well it's not like the banks have to authorize every signature, If you buy little things here and there, you probably won't have any problems. I think warning signs only start going up when your card is being used in another state to buy a boat or something
[QUOTE=jaredop;37657170] Well it's not like the banks have to authorize every signature, If you buy little things here and there, you probably won't have any problems. I think warning signs only start going up when your card is being used in another state to buy a boat or something[/QUOTE] That's what they did though. They went on vacations. Everything from groceries, to 500 dollar phones, and 800 dollar TVs was bought. I wish I could find this article right now. I fully realize how ridiculous this sounds without a source.
This is why I don't give money to hobos. If I feel generous I'll buy food and give that to them.
[QUOTE=Forumaster;37659087]This is why I don't give money to hobos. If I feel generous I'll buy food and give that to them.[/QUOTE]That's pretty much exactly what most people recommend is that you don't give money to the homeless, but you offer to buy them food or whatever they say they need the money for.
[QUOTE=Zephyrs;37657143]The ultimate one was that one of the cards used for this was not signed, and a clerk told him she couldn't accept a card like that, so he signed the card in front of her after asking her for a pen, then she accepted everything.[/QUOTE] Let's be honest though; nobody checks the signatures anyway. It's just a technicality. That being said, I think it's silly the USA hasn't adopted the chip and pin system.
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