I was just curious on what you guys thought on this pre-built for it's price: [url]http://www.aria.co.uk/Systems/Gaming+Range/Limited+Edition+PCs/Gladiator+Gaming+i7+-+Diablo+2000,+2x+R9-290+4.40GHz+Overclocked+4770K,+Windows+8.1+%2B+BATTLEFIELD+4+%26+4+GAMES+BUNDLE+?productId=58226[/url]
Could I build a better gaming computer for £2000.00 or $3200.00, or would this be a good buy?
I've seen some reviews on it, and people love it. I just wanted to get some opinions first.
I mean, you can pretty much always build for cheaper. And honestly you could go with a system with a 4670k and 780ti that would get on average better performance for loads cheaper. I can link one up if you'd like if you tell me what country you're ordering from.
[QUOTE=Levelog;43593104]I mean, you can pretty much always build for cheaper. And honestly you could go with a system with a 4670k and 780ti that would get on average better performance for loads cheaper. I can link one up if you'd like if you tell me what country you're ordering from.[/QUOTE]
I'd be ordering from the United States.
Alright, here is the build I recommend.
[url]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2DO5z[/url] Coming in around $2k.
The i5 4670k is the best gaming processor that exists. Hyperthreading actually is a detriment to most modern games. Also, SLI and Crossfire is a shot in the dark. Some games have awesome optimization to get 150% performance over just one card, while some actually decrease performance. The 780Ti is better than the r9 290, so overall you'd have noticably better performance with a single 780Ti, and I did put in a big enough PSU to allow SLI 780Ti's if you so choose in the future. The Noctua NH-D14 is one of the best air coolers iirc. If you'd rather a close-loop water, go with a corsair H100i. Both of those will give you a lot of overclocking headroom, with the NH-D14 being better. Also I upped the SSD to a 500GB one, and the HDD to a 2tb one that is faster just so you never have to worry about running out of room. Also with the 1.2k below budget it is, you could easily pick up 2 [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236307[/url] and a mount like [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824995006[/url] Plus all the top notch peripherals you could imagine.
Is it fairly simple to OC a computer? If so, is the build above able to do so? I have experience with building, just not overclocking or anything like that.
[QUOTE=Levelog;43593422]Alright, here is the build I recommend.
[url]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2DO5z[/url] Coming in around $2k.
The i5 4670k is the best gaming processor that exists. Hyperthreading actually is a detriment to most modern games. Also, SLI and Crossfire is a shot in the dark. Some games have awesome optimization to get 150% performance over just one card, while some actually decrease performance. The 780Ti is better than the r9 290, so overall you'd have noticably better performance with a single 780Ti, and I did put in a big enough PSU to allow SLI 780Ti's if you so choose in the future. The Noctua NH-D14 is one of the best air coolers iirc. If you'd rather a close-loop water, go with a corsair H100i. Both of those will give you a lot of overclocking headroom, with the NH-D14 being better. Also I upped the SSD to a 500GB one, and the HDD to a 2tb one that is faster just so you never have to worry about running out of room. Also with the 1.2k below budget it is, you could easily pick up 2 [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236307[/url] and a mount like [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824995006[/url] Plus all the top notch peripherals you could imagine.[/QUOTE]
He should get a 120/144hz monitor from asus/BenQ instead of two monitors(or both, if he feels like spending the money on it)
Or, hell, a 2560x1440 120hz
[QUOTE=RandomGamer342;43593777]He should get a 120/144hz monitor from asus/BenQ instead of two monitors(or both, if he feels like spending the money on it)
Or, hell, a 2560x1440 120hz[/QUOTE]
He could. Just in my experience I'd prefer 2 1080's to one1440 or a 120hz.
[editline]19th January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Exigent;43593674]Is it fairly simple to OC a computer? If so, is the build above able to do so? I have experience with building, just not overclocking or anything like that.[/QUOTE]
It's fairly simple, there are some nice guides around. A high end motherboard like that makes it nice and simpler.
Also, Design R4s price got increased. I suggest getting a [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-case-thorv2]THOR V2[/url] instead. It's 10-20 bucks cheaper with pre-installed cooling (3 230mm fans side front and top and a 140mm fan in the back, front fan has an LED).
Also might as well get the best [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/innovation-cooling-thermal-paste-icd7c]thermal compound on the market.[/url]
I'd also say one of the best CPU coolers on the market that beat out the D14 is probably the [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/phanteks-cpu-cooler-phtc14pebl]PH-TC14PE by Phantek.[/url]
I also suggest getting and aftermarket cooler on the GPU, like the [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-gtx780tigaming]Twin Frozr[/url] model.
[QUOTE=Death_God;43594374]Also, Design R4s price got increased. I suggest getting a [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-case-thorv2]THOR V2[/url] instead. It's 10-20 bucks cheaper with pre-installed cooling (3 230mm fans side front and top and a 140mm fan in the back, front fan has an LED).
Also might as well get the best [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/innovation-cooling-thermal-paste-icd7c]thermal compound on the market.[/url]
I'd also say one of the best CPU coolers on the market that beat out the D14 is probably the [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/phanteks-cpu-cooler-phtc14pebl]PH-TC14PE by Phantek.[/url]
I also suggest getting and aftermarket cooler on the GPU, like the [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-gtx780tigaming]Twin Frozr[/url] model.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. I couldn't find any non-reference 780ti's for whatever reason. Wonder if something was off in my search.
pcpartpicker doesn't show pictures of the aftermarket cooler ones for some odd reason with the newer cards.
Here's a build optimized for quality air cooling while also giving you the best gaming processor you can buy and two of the best graphics cards:
[url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2E3YT]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2E3YT/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url] / [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2E3YT/benchmarks/]Benchmarks[/url]
[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54670k]Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] (£167.99 @ Aria PC)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/phanteks-cpu-cooler-phtc14pebk]Phanteks PH-TC14PE_BK 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler[/url] (£68.57 @ Scan.co.uk)
[b]Thermal Compound:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/antec-thermal-paste-formula7]Antec Formula 7 Nano Diamond 4g Thermal Paste[/url] (£8.92 @ Scan.co.uk)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-z87gd65gaming]MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] (£139.98 @ Ebuyer)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/patriot-memory-pv38g160c9k]Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] (£59.99 @ Amazon UK)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz7te500bw]Samsung 840 EVO 500GB 2.5" Solid State Disk[/url] (£244.99 @ Amazon UK)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm001]Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] (£60.00 @ Aria PC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvn78tghz3gd]Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card[/url] (2-Way SLI) (£629.59 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvn78tghz3gd]Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card[/url] (2-Way SLI) (£629.59 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-case-thorv2]Rosewill THOR V2 ATX Full Tower Case[/url]
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1850xxxb9]XFX 850W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] (£86.10 @ Aria PC)
[b]Operating System:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700615]Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit)[/url] (£81.50 @ Amazon UK)
[b]Total:[/b] £2177.22
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It's only got 8 GB of RAM, but that's all you'll really ever need. You might also get a little bit lower temperatures by replacing the fans (high airflow fans for the case, high static pressure for the heatsink). If you want an optical drive just buy the cheapest one that does what you want as far as reading and writing to the different types of discs. It's really not worth paying more for faster drives unless you read and write from discs a [B]lot[/B].
Keep in mind SLI gives you anywhere from about 90% to 180% the performance of the original card (10% decrease to about an 80% increase in performance from one card). It wholly depends on what game you are playing and if it's optimized for SLI. Some games will get the best performance possible, while some others will flat out crash. For this reason I really don't advise going with SLI since the 780 Ti is already absolutely amazing (I only put it in the build, because the prebuilt you linked had two). You can also downgrade to this PSU if you drop the other 780 Ti: [url]http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx600m[/url]
Furthermore, you can downgrade storage. There's really not much need for a 500 GB SSD; although, it is a bit faster than the 250GB. Of course two 250GB in RAID would be the fastest choice and the priciest choice. You also may not need to have 2 TB of offline HDD storage. It really all depends on your use case which is why I can't give you a sure fire recommendation. I personally managed to easily work with a 400GB HDD with all games I actively played installed and all of my other data on there as well including plenty of movies.
I also think the GD65 is the best motherboard for gaming configurations using two or less graphics cards right now, money aside. All of their considerations like packet prioritization and high quality on board audio are specifically tailored for gaming and that's combined with a generally awesome motherboard, so unless you are going to go for some extreme overclocking (which you cannot achieve with just air cooling), I would stick with the GD65.
He's ordering from the US, Flayne. (I was confused as well at first)
[editline]19th January 2014[/editline]
Also how do you link PCpartpicker like that?
Thanks, adjusted as necessary:
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2Ecmv]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2Ecmv/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2Ecmv/benchmarks/]Benchmarks[/url]
[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54670k]Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($225.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/phanteks-cpu-cooler-phtc14pebk]Phanteks PH-TC14PE_BK 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler[/url] ($74.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Thermal Compound:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/antec-thermal-paste-formula7]Antec Formula 7 Nano Diamond 4g Thermal Paste[/url] ($10.95 @ Amazon)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-z87gd65gaming]MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($179.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/geil-memory-gel38gb1600c9dc]GeIL EVO Leggara Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($68.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz7te500bw]Samsung 840 EVO 500GB 2.5" Solid State Disk[/url] ($309.00 @ Amazon)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm001]Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($82.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-gtx780tigaming]MSI GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card[/url] (2-Way SLI) ($715.91 @ Newegg)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-gtx780tigaming]MSI GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card[/url] (2-Way SLI) ($715.91 @ Newegg)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-case-thorv2]Rosewill THOR V2 ATX Full Tower Case[/url] ($99.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1850xxxb9]XFX 850W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($118.98 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Operating System:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700615]Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit)[/url] ($94.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Total:[/b] $2698.66
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I would have used the Twin Frozr 780 Ti to begin with, but it wasn't listed, so this build is a bit better. The alternate PSU recommendation still stands, just order it from an American vendor.
I use the BBCode Markup button to get that fancy pcpartpicker premade post.
Wait, so the two video cards are necessary? Also, I'd be needing a monitor as well, would a good monitor be able to fit into my budget with that price?
No I said I don't recommend two video cards. I put them in the build because the computer you listed had two in the OP. For the monitor I recommend a 2560x1440 or 2560x1600, because otherwise a 780 Ti is just a waste. Better yet a 120Hz one.
Wait, if you don't recommend it, could you put a build here that you would recommend for that price range? I don't need the two video cards, I was just wondering opinions on that build, and if I could build a better one for that price.
The build I recommend is the one I posted without one 780 Ti and with the alternative PSU I mentioned. I wasn't actually holding anything back because of budget. This is pretty much all top of the line. The only thing you can really get any better on is the storage, and I don't really think that's necessary. You could also water cool, or even use a custom water cooling loop, but if this is your first build, I don't recommend anything beyond closed loop water cooling your CPU.
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