Muslim Wall Street Journal reporter and co-founder of the Muslim Reform Movement voted Trump. - Polidicks

[quote]This is my confession — and explanation: I — a 51-year-old, a Muslim, an immigrant woman “of color” — am one of those silent voters for Donald Trump. And I’m not a “bigot,” “racist,” “chauvinist” or “white supremacist,” as Trump voters are being called, nor part of some “whitelash.” In the winter of 2008, as a lifelong liberal and proud daughter of West Virginia, a state born on the correct side of history on slavery, I moved to historically conservative Virginia only because the state had helped elect Barack Obama as the first African American president of the United States. But, then, for much of this past year, I have kept my electoral preference secret: I was leaning toward Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump. .... But I am a single mother who can’t afford health insurance under Obamacare. The president’s mortgage-loan modification program, “HOPE NOW,” didn’t help me. Tuesday, I drove into Virginia from my hometown of Morgantown, W.Va., where I see rural America and ordinary Americans, like me, still struggling to make ends meet, after eight years of the Obama administration. Finally, as a liberal Muslim who has experienced, first-hand, Islamic extremism in this world, I have been opposed to the decision by President Obama and the Democratic Party to tap dance around the “Islam” in Islamic State. Of course, Trump’s rhetoric has been far more than indelicate and folks can have policy differences with his recommendations, but, to me, it has been exaggerated and demonized by the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, their media channels, such as Al Jazeera, and their proxies in the West, in a convenient distraction from the issue that most worries me as a human being on this earth: extremist Islam of the kind that has spilled blood from the hallways of the Taj Mahal hotel in Mumbai to the dance floor of the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Fla. ... Days before the election, a journalist from India emailed me, asking: What are your thoughts being a Muslim in “Trump’s America”? I wrote that as a child of India, arriving in the United States at the age of 4 in the summer of 1969, I have absolutely no fears about being a Muslim in a “Trump America.” The checks and balances in America and our rich history of social justice and civil rights will never allow the fear-mongering that has been attached to candidate Trump’s rhetoric to come to fruition.[/quote] Source: [url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2016/11/10/im-a-muslim-a-woman-and-an-immigrant-i-voted-for-trump/?tid=sm_fb[/url]

But wasn't Clinton going to improve Obamacare? All Trump is going to do is remove it and probably replace it with nothing.

[QUOTE]Finally, as a liberal Muslim who has experienced, first-hand, Islamic extremism in this world, I have been opposed to the decision by President Obama and the Democratic Party to tap dance around the “Islam” in Islamic State. Of course, Trump’s rhetoric has been far more than indelicate and folks can have policy differences with his recommendations, but, to me, it has been exaggerated and demonized by the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, their media channels, such as Al Jazeera, and their proxies in the West, in a convenient distraction from the issue that most worries me as a human being on this earth: extremist Islam of the kind that has spilled blood from the hallways of the Taj Mahal hotel in Mumbai to the dance floor of the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Fla.[/QUOTE] I've been saying it for years. Muslims themselves should be very afraid of Islamic extremism as they are its biggest victims. If she rated this issue very highly, its not surprising that she voted this way.

[quote]I see rural America and ordinary Americans, like me, still struggling to make ends meet, after eight years of the Obama administration[/quote] It's almost like the President isn't a dictator or something.

Its sad she feels the need to vote for such an idiot because extremists fucked up the perception of muslims in the western world. And about the healthcare, she just seems disillusioned with Obama's policies without heavily considering Trump's

[QUOTE=Pantz Master;51350562]I've been saying it for years. Muslims themselves should be very afraid of Islamic extremism as they are its biggest victims. If she rated this issue very highly, its not surprising that she voted this way.[/QUOTE] Muslims [I]are[/I] afraid of Islamic terrorism. They [I]have been[/I]. Yet people seem to jump down the throats of Muslims and somehow blame the religion for when it's been debated extensively that the shortcomings of the Middle East are predominately political, and that the biggest victims of Islamic groups have [I]always been[/I] Muslims. Though I still vehemently disagree with a lot of Trump's policies, his 7-point healthcare plan seems pretty alright (with some modifications, of course). I can see why she would vote Trump over Clinton if she's severely affected with Obamacare. Even if Clinton did get elected, she wouldn't be able to do anything with Obamacare.

[QUOTE=Pantz Master;51350562]I've been saying it for years. Muslims themselves should be very afraid of Islamic extremism as they are its biggest victims. If she rated this issue very highly, its not surprising that she voted this way.[/QUOTE] I'm not quite sure how a muslim ban will really factor into that long term though Muslims should be, but the US isn't looking to help them anymore other than to "Kill the families of ISIS members" so, who knows, maybe Trump will solve it single handedly, or maybe this is going to get worse.

[QUOTE=DaMastez;51350580]It's almost like the President isn't a dictator or something.[/QUOTE] What is that supposed to mean? Like Obama is just going to force everyone to have more money or something?

[QUOTE] I wrote that as a child of India, arriving in the United States at the age of 4 in the summer of 1969, I have absolutely no fears about being a Muslim in a “Trump America.” The checks and balances in America and our rich history of social justice and civil rights will never allow the fear-mongering that has been attached to candidate Trump’s rhetoric to come to fruition.[/QUOTE] May be right (hopefully) about the checks and balances but it's not really fear-mongering to say that Trump wants to ban Muslims when he says he wants to ban Muslims. This is a key rhetorical trick I've seen throughout the campaign, where people respond to legitimate criticisms based on what Trump or his campaign have actually said with "that's just media fearmongering". Well it isn't. He said these things.

[QUOTE=Primigenes;51350818]You don't have to any of those things to make stupid decisions[/QUOTE] Are you generalizing Trump voters as people who make stupid decisions?

[QUOTE=PsycheClops;51350879]Are you generalizing Trump voters as people who make stupid decisions?[/QUOTE] I would definitely classify quite a few as uninformed. In the real world, when I converse with them, it quickly becomes apparent to both parties that they have little solid idea on what they are talking about. However, I still approach them kindly and respectfully, most are willing to learn and eventually change opinions.

[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;51350776]What is that supposed to mean? Like Obama is just going to force everyone to have more money or something?[/QUOTE] it means the president can't pass anything without congressional approval and he was cockblocked by 8 years by the republicans.

[QUOTE=da space core;51350963]I would definitely classify quite a few as uninformed. In the real world, when I converse with them, it quickly becomes apparent to both parties that they have little solid idea on what they are talking about. However, I still approach them kindly and respectfully, most are willing to learn and eventually change opinions.[/QUOTE] Case in point one of the first things I heard when I got to work was someone saying that the one thing that caused them to vote for Trump instead of Clinton was Benghazi. [editline]10th November 2016[/editline] If we can't acknowledge that that is an [B]objectively ignorant position[/B] to take without being told that it will push people towards Trump then there is no longer any reason for discourse.

[QUOTE=Kyle902;51350975]it means the president can't pass anything without congressional approval and he was cockblocked by 8 years by the republicans.[/QUOTE] So whats better; proposing something you know will be gutted by the Republicans and fuck over the majority of Americans, or not proposing anything at all? Yea Obama was facing tough opposition his entire presidency but you can't blame everything ever on the Republicans.

[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;51351352]So whats better; proposing something you know will be gutted by the Republicans and fuck over the majority of Americans, or not proposing anything at all? Yea Obama was facing tough opposition his entire presidency but you can't blame everything ever on the Republicans.[/QUOTE] but I'm not blaming the republicans for everything?

[QUOTE=da space core;51350963]I would definitely classify quite a few as uninformed. In the real world, when I converse with them, it quickly becomes apparent to both parties that they have little solid idea on what they are talking about. However, I still approach them kindly and respectfully, most are willing to learn and eventually change opinions.[/QUOTE] I'm sure those people are extremely grateful to be taught by you while you're on your high horse. [editline]11th November 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Kyle902;51351358]but I'm not blaming the republicans for everything?[/QUOTE] I didn't mean you in particular, that was a more general "you". I should have been more specific.

[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;51351361]I'm sure those people are extremely grateful to be taught by you while you're on your high horse.[/QUOTE] would you rather people spout epic zingers at each other and not try to understand the other sides viewpoint?

[QUOTE=PsycheClops;51350879]Are you generalizing Trump voters as people who make stupid decisions?[/QUOTE] Well, Trump voters all made at least one very stupid decision. ;)

[QUOTE=Omilinon;51350730]Muslims [I]are[/I] afraid of Islamic terrorism. They [I]have been[/I]. Yet people seem to jump down the throats of Muslims and somehow blame the religion for when it's been debated extensively that the shortcomings of the Middle East are predominately political, and that the biggest victims of Islamic groups have [I]always been[/I] Muslims. Though I still vehemently disagree with a lot of Trump's policies, his 7-point healthcare plan seems pretty alright (with some modifications, of course). I can see why she would vote Trump over Clinton if she's severely affected with Obamacare. Even if Clinton did get elected, she wouldn't be able to do anything with Obamacare.[/QUOTE] Trumos health plan MUST include provisions that health insurance companies can no longer refuse coverage to people with preexisting conditions if it wants to be functional at even a basic level. That was an absolutely critical component of the ACA and it simply cannot be lost. Insurance companies should not be able to decide that some people aren't profitable enough to receive lifesaving medical care.

[QUOTE=Primigenes;51351555]If you voted Trump in the primary or general election you made a stupid decision. There is no "generalizing" [/QUOTE] Right, right, mainly because of civil rights. I'm all for civil rights. I am willing to [I]fight[/I] against any regression of civil rights, but I think it's time for another issue like economics to catch up. I mean, Obama did increase the number of jobs, but he didn't lessen the income gap. What I'm possibly afraid of is in the long term, if this income gap keeps spreading apart, middle class would die (it already is dying), and possibly, it might undo what the Progessivism movement did. If I recall correctly, Trump wanted to slower the progress of technological innovation, right? I believe this is a good thing to protect the jobs of Americans, especially the blue collar workers. One example is that se have these self driving automobiles. For common people, yeah, it could be a good thing. But what about truck drivers, taxi drivers, Uber drivers? If we have automobiles that are designed to work on a computer perfectly with no flaws, what's the point of having the drivers? What I want is not a regression of one movement and increase another, what I want is for them to catch up with each other. Funny, you could say that this sort of situation is for civil rights. Told you, I'm willing to fight for it.

i'm really surprised about the amount of support for trump, even here. even the newspaper thats popular here, Arab News supported Trump and people say he wont be that bad.

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51351546]Well, Trump voters all made at least one very stupid decision. ;)[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;GLG9g7BcjKs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLG9g7BcjKs[/video] Reckon you should watch this, BDA.

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51351546]Well, Trump voters all made at least one very stupid decision. ;)[/QUOTE] Statements like this are what got Trump more supporters.

[QUOTE=Tudd;51354261]Statements like this are what got Trump more supporters.[/QUOTE] So two very stupid decision then. One is supporting Trump despite his objectively awful policies Two is voting because of their thin skin No apologies, almost everyone who voted Trump is an idiot, either because they had a stupid reason to vote for him, or they're too stupid to research his policies to see how bad they are for America in every possible way and just go off "murica fuck yer" kind of American Exceptionalism. If you wanna have an actual conversation about why Trump's policies are bad and unconstitutional, I'd be more than happy to talk with you and provide you with good sources and systematically destroy every single position you hold that made you vote for Trump, but I also have a right to call Trump supporters retards, and if their thin skin (just like Trump's) is too fragile to go beyond that, then whatever lol, I'm not running for pres so I don't have to appeal to moronic middle-school rejects who struggle with words more than 3 syllables long.

[QUOTE=EcksDee;51354277]So two very stupid decision then. One is supporting Trump despite his objectively awful policies Two is voting because of their thin skin No apologies, almost everyone who voted Trump is an idiot, either because they had a stupid reason to vote for him, or they're too stupid to research his policies to see how bad they are for America in every possible way and just go off "murica fuck yer."[/QUOTE] i think its hilarious that people like you continue to dig this hole and give trump more support no really keep going on and speaking without thinking, all its doing is making my candidate more powerful

[QUOTE=Bazsil;51354285]i think its hilarious that people like you continue to dig this hole and give trump more support no really keep going on and speaking without thinking, all its doing is making my candidate more powerful[/QUOTE] I think before (almost) every post I make, and I don't have to do anything to "give Trump more support". The more of his awful policies get through the more manchild Trump supporters will realize how they're better off with a lobotomy than a Trump presidency. That'll be the reason he ends his term with like, below 35% approval rating and a qualitatively worse political climate in the world. [B]And I'll TOXX that too. [/B] If Trump ends his 4 year term with more than 35% approval rating ban me. Escape clause: I'll rap the Worldwide Choppers in its entirety after chugging a gallon of milk, while doing a handstand

[QUOTE=EcksDee;51354277]So two very stupid decision then. One is supporting Trump despite his objectively awful policies Two is voting because of their thin skin No apologies, almost everyone who voted Trump is an idiot, either because they had a stupid reason to vote for him, or they're too stupid to research his policies to see how bad they are for America in every possible way and just go off "murica fuck yer" kind of American Exceptionalism. If you wanna have an actual conversation about why Trump's policies are bad and unconstitutional, I'd be more than happy to talk with you and provide you with good sources and systematically destroy every single position you hold that made you vote for Trump, but I also have a right to call Trump supporters retards, and if their thin skin (just like Trump's) is too fragile to go beyond that, then whatever lol, I'm not running for pres so I don't have to appeal to moronic middle-school rejects who struggle with words more than 3 syllables long.[/QUOTE] I can't believe you're sitting behind your monitor writing this utter drivel with a serious face. Have fun with more Trump in 2020 by the looks of it. You're part of the problem, heck, you are [I]the[/I] problem. Go watch the video I posted. And if you did, and it didn't make you rethink anything or change something about your behaviour or way of thinking, you [I]deserve[/I] Trump. Keep thinking that talking down to people will get you votes. It worked so well for Brexit and Trump, didn't it?

[QUOTE=EcksDee;51354277]So two very stupid decision then. One is supporting Trump despite his objectively awful policies Two is voting because of their thin skin No apologies, almost everyone who voted Trump is an idiot, either because they had a stupid reason to vote for him, or they're too stupid to research his policies to see how bad they are for America in every possible way and just go off "murica fuck yer" kind of American Exceptionalism. If you wanna have an actual conversation about why Trump's policies are bad and unconstitutional, I'd be more than happy to talk with you and provide you with good sources and systematically destroy every single position you hold that made you vote for Trump, but I also have a right to call Trump supporters retards, and if their thin skin (just like Trump's) is too fragile to go beyond that, then whatever lol, I'm not running for pres so I don't have to appeal to moronic middle-school rejects who struggle with words more than 3 syllables long.[/QUOTE] Have fun never learning from your mistakes. I have and can argue my points perfectly fine, it's just shit you will never agree with. I ain't even a entrenched Trump supporter, but at this point with how ludicrously unaware you are to how you are turning off borderline people, I might aswell enjoy the one side I chose out of the two shit choices given.

[QUOTE=Bazsil;51354285]i think its hilarious that people like you continue to dig this hole and give trump more support no really keep going on and speaking without thinking, all its doing is making my candidate more powerful[/QUOTE] im glad you couldnt vote in my country's election

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51354457]To everybody who says "calling Trump supporters stupid is making me vote Trump go ahead :^)" I am not gonna tell somene who voted for Trump that they are stupid one one one in real life. I will ask why they did that, and I will try to tell them why what they did was a mistake. But this is a fairly small vidya gaem forum and hardly anyone but locals will read these posts. So almost all of us are anti-Trump here so we are almost talking amongst ourselves. To you, little amount of Trump supporters. [I]Dont you dare[/I] say "peoples aggression made me vote for Trump". On this forum for a year, a lot of [I]kind [/I]people explained to you why Trump is retarded [I]hundreds of times[/I]. Dont you cherrypick insults. All your questions were answered. All the arguments were done time and time again. Unlike the 40 year old busy and stressed out middle class white Rust Belt citizen, you cant claim frustration, you cant claim ignorance, you cant claim anything. There is no excuses. You made a plain stupid decision out of [B]spite[/B]. After a year of discussion -we did discuss, a lot, dont you claim otherwise- just let people call all Trump supporters stupid. They have earned it. This forum is mostly liberal but you cant ever claim you are only getting insults and never proper discussion. That would be a flat boldfaced lie. [editline]11th November 2016[/editline] He didnt make any mistakes. He isnt a DNC employee, and this is a stupid forum and the election is over. And Trump supporters are stupid, get offended. You on the other hand made a gross mistake, whether "entrenched" or not, and will continue to make it [I]just to spite people[/I]. How pathetic is that.[/QUOTE] And you're writing this post to spite trump supporters. What a wonderful exercise in absolutely nothing except stroking your own ego and justifying your beautiful high horse. This forum is gonna be fun for the rest of the year. If you're outright claiming you're in your right to call people "stupid" because you feel it's entirely logical and justified in your own sphere of thought, don't be surprised if other people hurl utterly meaningless insults to you in return, following the same logic, in their own sphere of thought. You're opening yourself up for trouble, and you deserve it for continuing to be a butthurt, confrontational, divisive individual.