• Bernie Sanders Calls For Supporters to Run for Governmental Office in National Address
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[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzHSNjctOCk[/media] Speech Starts at 2:45, Part about the organized push to take control of government is at 21:00. Literally, he is setting up an organized way to get people to run for office under his banner - all sorts of offices. This seems like an interesting way to go about it. In the below link it literally is a form and a box to check for "I want to run for office" which leads to other questions. [url]www.Berniesanders.com/win[/url] No news sources yet that aren't super fringe.
Good to see that he's actually taking the "political revolution" beyond the election and trying to make change from the ground up.
[QUOTE=BigJoeyLemons;50536406]Good to see that he's actually taking the "political revolution" beyond the election and trying to make change from the ground up.[/QUOTE] This plus news Debbie wasserman Schultz is no longer the DNC head, His talk with clinton went well.
That's pretty incredible. Goes to show Sanders has serious conviction and goals.
[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;50536423][B]This plus news Debbie wasserman Schultz is no longer the DNC head[/B], His talk with clinton went well.[/QUOTE] This is certainly new to me.
See BernieBros, it's not over just because he lost the presidency. So hold your Clinton spite and don't go vote Trump because that will just make Bernie's other attempts at changing the government harder.
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;50536499]See [B]BernieBros[/B], it's not over just because he lost the presidency. So hold your Clinton spite and don't go vote Trump because that will just make Bernie's other attempts at changing the government harder.[/QUOTE] I wish people would stop with this dumb shit already, it's an incredibly misleading term for the supporters of Bernie. It's just as bad as people saying "Crooked Hillary" every single time you say her name or "Crazy Trump" every time you say his.
I wasn't going to post this immediately this was CNN, People expected her to last until the election, But... [URL="http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/16/politics/hillary-clinton-campaign-dnc/"]Brandon Davis to be the new DNC[/URL] Basically she's Gone after the Democratic Convention. She has limited power right now. [editline]16th June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=phygon;50536509]I wish people would stop with this dumb shit already, it's an incredibly misleading term for the supporters of Bernie. It's just as bad as people saying "Crooked Hillary" every single time you say her name or "Crazy Trump" every time you say his.[/QUOTE] I'm fucking tired of the media trying to paint us as a crazy cult, Sure you may not see it online, But a majority of us will vote for Hillary. And a lot of us will partake in this thing.
[QUOTE=phygon;50536509]I wish people would stop with this dumb shit already, it's an incredibly misleading term for the supporters of Bernie. It's just as bad as people saying "Crooked Hillary" every single time you say her name or "Crazy Trump" every time you say his.[/QUOTE] By Berniebros I mean the Bernie or Bust people that are going to vote for Trump because Bernie lost, not Bernie voters in general. I thought that's what they called themselves, sorry for the misunderstanding.
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;50536545]By Berniebros I mean the Bernie or Bust people that are going to vote for Trump because Bernie lost, not Bernie voters in general. I thought that's what they called themselves, sorry for the misunderstanding.[/QUOTE] It's a derogatory term created by the Clinton campaign to say the only reason men are voting for Bernie is because he's a man too. literally sexism in action. [editline]16th June 2016[/editline] and look how effective that was really, not even a question about it, just the assumption that's what people want to be referred to. Fucking branding is way too effective at this kind of nonsense.
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;50536545]By Berniebros I mean the Bernie or Bust people that are going to vote for Trump because Bernie lost, not Bernie voters in general. I thought that's what they called themselves, sorry for the misunderstanding.[/QUOTE] and only ~7% of those voters would actually vote for Trump.
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;50536545]By Berniebros I mean the Bernie or Bust people that are going to vote for Trump because Bernie lost, not Bernie voters in general. I thought that's what they called themselves, sorry for the misunderstanding.[/QUOTE] "Bernie bros" is a term created by Clinton to imply that everyone who supports Bernie is some sort of frat boy [editline]s[/editline] Think this dude [IMG]http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/southpark/images/d/d8/PC_Principal.png/revision/latest?cb=20150919151808[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Chaitin;50536467]This is certainly new to me.[/QUOTE] yea but is this new person any better
[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;50536594]yea but is this new person any better[/QUOTE] He's was the Directer of the Service Employees International Union.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50536552]It's a derogatory term [B]created by the Clinton campaign to say the only reason men are voting for Bernie is because he's a man too. literally sexism in action.[/B] [editline]16th June 2016[/editline] and look how effective that was really, not even a question about it, just the assumption that's what people want to be referred to. Fucking branding is way too effective at this kind of nonsense.[/QUOTE] Could I get a source on that. First uses I ever saw were in late 2015 about people who talked about Sanders to the point of annoyance. First instance I ever found, and I'm pretty sure the origin, with no hint of sexist angles? [url]http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/10/here-comes-the-berniebro-bernie-sanders/411070/[/url]
[QUOTE=plunger435;50536631]Could I get a source on that. First uses I ever saw were in late 2015 about people who talked about Sanders to the point of annoyance. First instance I ever found, and I'm pretty sure the origin, with no hint of sexist angles? [url]http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/10/here-comes-the-berniebro-bernie-sanders/411070/[/url][/QUOTE] that is literally an entire article of talking down to "BernieBros". [editline]16th June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE]The Berniebro is not every Bernie Sanders supporter. Sanders’s support skews young, but not particularly male. The Berniebro is male, though. Very male.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50536650]that is literally an entire article of talking down to "BernieBros".[/QUOTE] I didn't say it wasn't a derogatory term, but I don't see any evidence in there that Clinton created it to represent people voting for Sanders because he's a man.
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[QUOTE=plunger435;50536656]I didn't say it wasn't a derogatory term, but I don't see any evidence in there that Clinton created it to represent people voting for Sanders because he's a man.[/QUOTE] Maybe Clinton didn't, but your OWN fucking article outs it as an entirely sexist angle [editline]16th June 2016[/editline] I mean clearly, when a writer takes the time to go and do THAT kinda quote, it's not sexist at all in anyway shape or form [editline]16th June 2016[/editline] Like did you even read your own article?
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50536664]Maybe Clinton didn't, but your OWN fucking article outs it as an entirely sexist angle [editline]16th June 2016[/editline] I mean clearly, when a writer takes the time to go and do THAT kinda quote, it's not sexist at all in anyway shape or form [editline]16th June 2016[/editline] [B]Like did you even read your own article?[/B][/QUOTE] I did read the article, and it says nothing about Clinton inventing the term. Nor that it's people voting for Sanders purely because he's a male. What you said was just outright false.
[QUOTE=plunger435;50536677]I did read the article, and it says nothing about Clinton inventing the term. Nor that it's people voting for Sanders purely because he's a male. What you said was just outright false.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]The Berniebro is not every Bernie Sanders supporter. Sanders’s support skews young, but not particularly male. The Berniebro is male, though. Very male.[/QUOTE] Nope no sexist overtones, undertones, nothing at all! NOPE NOT A FUCKING THING I already, just said(Though you didn't read it) that maybe Clinton didn't. But I'm done arguing with you. It's sexist as evidenced in your own article, and you're going to just say I'm wrong flat out on that until the end of time. It's sexist. That quote is sexist. The piece is derogatory as fuck, and littered with bits of sexism and bullshit just like that.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50536682]Nope no sexist overtones, undertones, nothing at all! NOPE NOT A FUCKING THING I already, just said(Though you didn't read it) that maybe Clinton didn't. But I'm done arguing with you. It's sexist as evidenced in your own article, and you're going to just say I'm wrong flat out on that until the end of time. It's sexist. That quote is sexist. The piece is derogatory as fuck, and littered with bits of sexism and bullshit just like that.[/QUOTE] You can try to deflect all you want, but you originally said. [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50536552][B]It's a derogatory term created by the Clinton campaign to say the only reason men are voting for Bernie is because he's a man too.[/B] literally sexism in action.[/QUOTE] Which has now been proven false.
[QUOTE=plunger435;50536696]You can try to deflect all you want, but you originally said. Which has now been proven false.[/QUOTE] Yes and as much as you want to ignore it, I'm perfectly allowed to change my statements after I make them. I conceded it was not made by Clinton. You're standing strong on saying it's not sexist in anyway shape or form. So I'm done. Thank you for the enlightening conversation, you have shown me for sure that it wasn't made by Clinton, but that it was made in purely sexist tones regardless of your opinion on the issue.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50536701]Yes and as much as you want to ignore it, I'm perfectlyallowed to change my statements after I make them. I conceded it was not made by Clinton. You're standing strong on saying it's not sexist in anyway shape or form. So I'm done. Thank you for the enlightening conversation, you have shown me for sure that it wasn't made by Clinton, but that it was made in purely sexist tones regardless of your opinion on the issue.[/QUOTE] Well unless you assume he's lying it also wouldn't be sexist, since he was purely talking about people he encountered personally on his Facebook, who happened to be upper middle class white males. [QUOTE]Men, mostly my age, mostly of my background, mostly with my political beliefs, were hectoring their friends about how great Bernie was even when their friends wanted to do something else, like talk about the NBA.[/QUOTE] Unless you think he's racist too for saying the messages he saw were also from white people.
[QUOTE=plunger435;50536713]Well unless you assume he's lying it also wouldn't be sexist, since he was purely talking about people he encountered personally on his Facebook, who happened to be upper middle class white males. Unless you think he's racist too for saying the messages he saw were also from white people.[/QUOTE] I don't understand how you've pulled these mental gymnastics to make it not sexist to describe the larger general group of male bernie voters as "Berniebros" based on the writers personal anecdotes but you have. It's impressive
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50536715]Your pedantism is so fucking strong it's fucking mind blowing[/QUOTE] It's not being pedantic, it's the entire core of the issue. He wrote about what he was seeing on his Facebook feed, which was white upper/middle class young white men, if it was lower class African Americans he would have said that instead. Nor is the article even about them being men aside from the single sentence you posted. The fact is it's not a sexist term, it's insulting die hard Sander's supporters, not men.
[QUOTE=plunger435;50536726]It's not being pedantic, it's the entire core of the issue. He wrote about what he was seeing on his Facebook feed, which was white upper/middle class young white men, if it was lower class African Americans he would have said that instead. Nor is the article even about them being men aside from the single sentence you posted. The fact is it's not a sexist term.[/QUOTE] So he can apply his personal facebook feed(a fucking anecdote) against the rest of the nations voters, and describe those people in a purely deragatory, gender focused way, and its not sexist? Cool It's sexist. The whole origin of "BernieBros" is derogatory and insulting and part of that is based upon sex of the person in question so it's fucking sexist.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50536737]So he can apply his personal facebook feed(a fucking anecdote) against the rest of the nations voters, and describe those people in a purely deragatory, gender focused way, and its not sexist? Cool It's sexist. The whole origin of "BernieBros" is derogatory and insulting and part of that is based upon sex of the person in question so it's fucking sexist.[/QUOTE] The term clearly has no gender: [QUOTE]Meanwhile, the girlfriends and boyfriends of Berniebros who allow themselves to be dragged to Sanders events are, of course, Bernieboos. [/QUOTE] The originator even says that it was misappropriated to mean: [QUOTE]Then other writers employed it to other ends. “Berniebro” came to imply that some men only supported Sanders because he was male.[/QUOTE] But that wasn't the original intent. If you read his articles and zerod in on: "He must hate men" instead of "He doesn't like die hard Sander's supporters" then you clearly didn't read past the first sentence you quoted in the thread. It's insulting to Sander's supporters, not men.
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;50536499]See BernieBros, it's not over just because he lost the presidency. So hold your Clinton spite and don't go vote Trump because that will just make Bernie's other attempts at changing the government harder.[/QUOTE] Cool propaganda, thanks for being part of the reason Sanders will lose! Did your Woman Card™ arrive in the mail yet? [editline]17th June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=plunger435;50536753]The term clearly has no gender: The originator even says that it was misappropriated to mean: But that wasn't the original intent. If you read his articles and zerod in on: "He must hate men" instead of "He doesn't like die hard Sander's supporters" then you clearly didn't read past the first sentence you quoted in the thread. It's insulting to Sander's supporters, not men.[/QUOTE] Your own quotes agree that regardless of "intended" meaning, the word has come to represent fanatical male Sanders supporters. You're performing the same argument as the children in middle school who say faggot isn't pejorative because it's "intended" to mean a pile of sticks. The term was coined by The Atlantic but it was popularized by the Clinton campaign and their supporters who have used it to demean male Sanders supporters under the assumption they're just voting for Sanders based on gender. Any source on the origin and meaning of the word confirms this, including the sources you've posted.
[QUOTE=srobins;50539047]Cool propaganda, thanks for being part of the reason Sanders will lose! Did your Woman Card™ arrive in the mail yet? [editline]17th June 2016[/editline] [/QUOTE] Do you actually believe any of what Bernie Sanders stands for and wants to change will happen under Trump, let alone have an easier time happening under Trump rather than Clinton? Because that's what you're essentially saying by insulting him like a conspirator for Clinton's campaign. lol "propaganda"
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