jesus christ World of Warcraft used to be such a good game vanilla - BC maybe even lich king.
now its just a shit
I was thinking about playing casually in WoD but if they do this, no way will I buy it
And Blizzard sinks deeper still in shame
[QUOTE=DEMONSKUL;43570996]And Blizzard sinks deeper still in shame[/QUOTE]
Shhhh... No shame, only cash.
Yet people keep telling me the company mentality hasn't changed since it merged with Activision
I have to put down $50 every expansion and $15 a month, and a transfer for each character off my now dead "connected" server. My moneys not good enough I guess.
I'm ok with this. I've been playing since begining of BC (off and on recently, haven't played in 3 months or so) and I can tell you how annoying it is to level up through ALL the content, just to play with a friend on another server, or maybe I want to play a specific class for my guild.
Maybe not something as drastic as insta-90, but i've argued something like: If you have 2 max level characters, you get the choice of creating a character that starts at level 80 instead of 1.
I wish I'd played WoW in its heyday. When I try to play it now, I'm turned off by the dated graphics and tired mechanics. It feels like a clone of every other MMO I've played, even though they are more likely clones of it! Because of that, I just can't get into it. It's a real shame.
That, and the many expansion packs they've released throw up a wall of paid content that I'm not willing to drop fat bucks to get past.
I wonder if it might not be time for a clean slate and a complete overhaul? World of Warcraft 2. I'd check it out, for sure. Blizzard offering the ability to simply buy high level characters seems to indicate that the game is near the end of its run anyway.
It's this kind of shit that just ruined the game, what the hells the point in handing everything to the player?
It's like playing through HL2 with noclip, godmode and impulse101 on. Like yeah it's easier and faster but whats the point of playing like that
I would rather pay for a new 90 than re-do all the fucking zones again for the 20th time. It's just extremely boring.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;43571105]That, and the many expansion packs they've released throw up a wall of paid content that I'm not willing to drop fat bucks to get past.
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To be fair here, they changed it so that if you buy the base game, you get every expansion up to Cataclysm. Only extra you have to buy is Mists. So now, right from the get go, you have one of the single largest games ever made, it's just a question of if you should be playing it to begin with.
Said it before, say it again: This is an issue Blizzard can't win on.
One of the biggest complaints for years has been how hard it is for people to get friends into the game because they are faced with a figurative wall of 90 levels, soon to be 100. In addition to this has been the long held desire by existing players who may already have one or two or seven max level alts to be able to just buy another instead of spending a week going through the same content they already have done. But there are always going to be people who see it as an egregious shortcut and a dastardly bit of business from Blizzard to charge for it. They catch flak either way for it so I can't blame them for taking the route that A) lets more people play the game with their friends, and B) makes them more money.
[QUOTE=Lurklet;43570890]jesus christ World of Warcraft used to be such a good game vanilla - BC maybe even lich king.
now its just a shit[/QUOTE]
This is a new and exciting opinion that totally isn't posted everything WoW comes up.
[QUOTE=Barbarian887;43571129]It's this kind of shit that just ruined the game, what the hells the point in handing everything to the player?
It's like playing through HL2 with noclip, godmode and impulse101 on. Like yeah it's easier and faster but whats the point of playing like that[/QUOTE]
"handing everything". Do you not know how World of Warcraft works? Why would you even post in a thread you clearly don't understand? How at all is getting 9/10ths of the way to the level cap equivalent to cheating?
[QUOTE=Saxon;43571050]Yet people keep telling me the company mentality hasn't changed since it merged with Activision
I have to put down $50 every expansion and $15 a month, and a transfer for each character off my now dead "connected" server. My moneys not good enough I guess.[/QUOTE]
Activision-Blizzard is a holding company, Blizzard Entertainment makes video games, and they have their own independent development and executive branches. If this reality is too inconvenient, make sure to leave your disagrees and boxes below. God knows I don't have enough from the other two dozen times I've had to repeat this basic fact.
Also it's $40 for an expansion and I'm sorry your server is dead but that's hardly Blizzards fault, especially when they are constantly adding to cross-server gameplay.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;43571105]I wish I'd played WoW in its heyday. When I try to play it now, I'm turned off by the dated graphics and tired mechanics. It feels like a clone of every other MMO I've played, even though they are more likely clones of it! Because of that, I just can't get into it. It's a real shame.
That, and the many expansion packs they've released throw up a wall of paid content that I'm not willing to drop fat bucks to get past.
I wonder if it might not be time for a clean slate and a complete overhaul? World of Warcraft 2. I'd check it out, for sure. Blizzard offering the ability to simply buy high level characters seems to indicate that the game is near the end of its run anyway.[/QUOTE]
WoW "in the good old days" is severely overrated by bittervets. I loved TBC but it's still the finest themepark MMO on the market. From the sounds of things (tired mechanics) it might be you just don't like the genre, which means even the best example of it wouldn't be particularly palatable. As for the price, they recently bundled in the games from original to Cataclysm for $20 with Mists of Pandaria still at $40. You still have to pay a monthly fee after your first free month but their expansion pricing (something I've criticized on FP and elsewhere before) is much better now.
Oh look once again we have another WoW related thread so that people can remind other people that they like and dislike things. I look forward to the next WoW related thread so people can yet again remind other people that they like and dislike things.
People need to wrap their head around another fact. The paid 90 upgrade will NOT be cheap. And that will put off a lot of people that don't like to just throw money at things.
Cosmetic paid changes are 15-20$
Realm and faction changes 30$ each with restrictions.
Due to this you can easily expect this to also cost 30$ Which in the grand scheme is cheaper then having to make a new account and re-buying all the ex-pacts with can easily net you $100+
The expansion so far have been around 30 - 40$ with the collectors edition and premium digital DL being around 60 -80$
So if players are willing to spend the equivalent of another expansion for a free lvl boost to 90, then they have deep pockets or really hate old content. That said the leveling arc in WoW is super streamlined that you can very easily get from 1 - max level in under a week. Even less if your leveling with a friend.
At the end of the day this issue is just a water-cooler discussion for the sake of being upset over anything. Personally i don't see the worth in paying even more money for an alt that may or may not get played for more then a week or specifically for a guild raid.
I really don't see what the fuss is all about. It's a free level 90, not a free level 100.
People who are complaining about this probably haven't played WoW enough to the point where they know that leveling is a hassle more than anything at this stage of the game.
[QUOTE=smoothkriminal;43575663]People who are complaining about this probably haven't played WoW enough to the point where they know that leveling is a hassle more than anything at this stage of the game.[/QUOTE]
That, or never tried playing WoW with a friend who gawked at the number 90.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;43575854]That, or never tried playing WoW with a friend who gawked at the number 90.[/QUOTE]
Yeh, recruit a friend helped some guildies hit lvl 60 in about 2 hours. Which is insane to me. I remember when it took like 7 days played time for the average person to hit lvl 80. I hit 90 in about 3 and a quarter this time...
man what a joke
I'm giving Blizzard this one last expansion to fix their shit, because there's actually a chance that they'll do so.
They're revamping stats, they're finally changing scaling to battle stat inflation (I saw a warlock with 1.1 million HP like a week ago, what the fuck?), and most importantly, they managed to distract Metzen for a while with "Hey Metzen, pandas are cool, go make an expansion".
Oh and they're basically going "oh, the shit that happened in the last few expansions, that never happened, because time travel and the previous lore sucked".
I don't see the problem with this.
The cap is 100, not 90. 100 levels to grind through before you get to what Blizzard themselves say is the strong point of the game is just Meh. Who the hell wants to grind through the entire WoW game, Then BC, Then Lich, Then Cataclysm, Then Pandas, then the newest expansion. Questing to a lot of people, AKA, Be NPC BitchBoy running the same types of errands just across different landscapes, is not fun. It just isn't. Selling the boost, however, is kind of a cunty dick move. They say the end game is where the fun is, then they know that people would rather grind some levels rather than 100, so they'll sell it. I mean god damn. You already charge for the game, expansions and a monthly fee, and have a cash shop for $50 horses and shit.
Games like Guild Wars 2 branch out a little from the format to change it up some. Not a lot, but enough to make it seem less like a job
At least the base game + Pandas is $60 right now, rather than when you still had to buy WoW, Lich, Cataclysm and it cost over $100, and I still think that's way too much and refuse to bother with it
i thought they already were giving an insta-90 for one character when you get the x-pack
[QUOTE=Sableye;43582573]i thought they already were giving an insta-90 for one character when you get the x-pack[/QUOTE]
The offer is for only one character. This is for people who want more.
I thought the deal was they were going to start selling flasks that boost xp by 300%, similar to the ones you can get now by farming rares. I'm indifferent either way
[QUOTE=Syrex;43582619]I thought the deal was they were going to start selling flasks that boost xp by 300%, similar to the ones you can get now by farming rares. I'm indifferent either way[/QUOTE]
those are only for Asian markets as their online time is limited by the government/ISP or some stupid shit like that.
I wish you could just run 1-60 and then instantly get popped to 90, for free.
1-60 is awesome, well, except for 58-60, because Hellfire Peninsula is kind of mandatory at that point because of how much better the gear there is, and how much more XP you get.
I think insta-70 would be better. The old content+BC is slow and boring as shit.
[QUOTE=Xyrec;43587673]I think insta-70 would be better. The old content+BC is slow and boring as shit.[/QUOTE]
you realize that 1-60 [I]is[/I] new content now, right
[QUOTE=RetaDepa;43573301]Oh look once again we have another WoW related thread so that people can remind other people that they like and dislike things. I look forward to the next WoW related thread so people can yet again remind other people that they like and dislike things.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure that in that next WoW related thread you'll be there to try and sarcastically dissuade people from discussing the game the thread is about
[QUOTE=nikomo;43577957]Oh and they're basically going "oh, the shit that happened in the last few expansions, that never happened, because time travel and the previous lore sucked".[/QUOTE]
That is not even close.
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