UN envoy calls situation in Syria "extremely bad and getting worse"
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[QUOTE]The situation in Syria is "extremely bad and getting worse", UN envoy Lakhdar Brahimi has said.
He spoke after briefing the Security Council about his first trip to Syria since taking the post on 1 September.
Mr Brahimi said he would return soon, but admitted he did not have a full plan on how to bring peace to Syria.
The statement comes as violence continues across the country. Activists said the government was bombing parts of the second city, Aleppo.
Speaking at UN headquarters in New York, Mr Brahimi said: "There is no disagreement anywhere that the situation in Syria is extremely bad and getting worse, that it is a threat to the region and a threat to peace and security in the world."
He said there was "no prospect for today or tomorrow to move forward".
But he added: "I think that we will find an opening in the not too distant future." Mr Brahimi said he believed "reasonable people" would know that they cannot go backwards.
The BBC's Barbara Plett at the UN says Mr Brahimi's mission to forge a political solution seems almost impossible, with the two parties intent on fighting rather than talking, and the Security Council deeply divided.
The UN says more than 20,000 people have been killed since anti-government protests began in Syria in March 2011. Activists put the death toll as high as 30,000.
Also on Monday, Syrian Deputy Foreign Minister Faisal Mekdad blamed the violence on foreign-backed "terrorist groups".
He told the BBC that Syria was carrying "a message of peace and national reconciliation" to the UN's General Assembly, which starts its annual debate on Tuesday.
Call for truce
On Monday, the Local Co-ordination Committees, an opposition activist network, reported that at least 40 people had died in fighting, including 13 in Aleppo.
The group said the victims included three children from one family killed in air strikes in the central district of Maadi.
Battles also raged overnight in the western districts of Jamilia, Bustan al-Qasr, Furqan and Zabdiya, according to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a UK-based activist group. The army also shelled rebel positions in Marjah and Tariq al-Bab, it added.
The state news agency Sana said the army had "cleansed" parts of the Arqoub, Jadida, Suleiman al-Halabi and Karm al-Jabal areas of Aleppo on Monday. Troops seized ammunition, dismantled explosive devices and "killed a large number of terrorists", it added.
A five-year-old girl and a man were killed during the bombardment of the southern town of Dael, in Deraa province, the Observatory reported. Six soldiers also died when a bomb exploded beside a lorry transporting them in Deraa.
Clashes between government forces and rebels were also reported in the north-eastern and north-western districts of the capital, Damascus.
More than 260,000 Syrians have fled to neighbouring countries, the UN says. There are also thought to be more than 1.2 million internally displaced people, and 2.5 million in need of humanitarian assistance.
The Security Council has so far been unable to reach agreement on how to respond to the crisis, with Russia and China blocking three Western-backed resolutions seeking to pressure President Assad to end the violence and begin talks with the opposition.
On Sunday, representatives of 20 opposition parties tolerated by the authorities attended a conference in Damascus where they called on both sides to end the violence immediately.
Raja al-Nasser, one of the organisers of the Syria Salvation Conference, called for an "immediate halt to the shooting, a halt to the brutal and barbaric shelling, a truce and a pause for the fighters".
A truce could "open the way for a political process... which guarantees a radical political change, an end to the current regime and a serious and genuine democracy," he said.
The appeal was dismissed by the rebel Free Syrian Army, which said the meeting was a "silly plot to mislead the international community to think there is a negotiation in place".[/QUOTE]
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Right, well done for noticing this. Christ. There's been videos of the exact situation on the internet for months, it's been clear it's gone to shit a long time ago and they just decided the situation is bad?
Useless cunts.
The UN must outsource stuff to Captain Obvious. Syria has been in a state of open civil war for months.
[QUOTE=AngryChairR;37789735]Right, well done for noticing this. Christ. There's been videos of the exact situation on the internet for months, it's been clear it's gone to shit a long time ago and they just decided the situation is bad?
Useless cunts.[/QUOTE]
- AngryChaiR (Ph.D), 2012. Retrieved from [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1214049[/url]
How about the UN does something about it then
oh wait i forgot russia is knee deep with their little arms deals with syria
[QUOTE=DrBreen;37790835]How about the UN does something about it then
oh wait i forgot russia is knee deep with their little arms deals with syria[/QUOTE]
How naïve!
[QUOTE=DrBreen;37790835]How about the UN does something about it then
oh wait i forgot russia is knee deep with their little arms deals with syria[/QUOTE]
What is the UN supposed to do? Send in military support and make the situation twice as bad?
[QUOTE=DrBreen;37790835]How about the UN does something about it then
oh wait i forgot russia is knee deep with their little arms deals with syria[/QUOTE]
If they weren't Syria would be invaded by now and that isn't how the UN operates. Its supposed to be unbias.
Too bad its completely biased.
[QUOTE=Chernarus;37792107]If they weren't Syria would be invaded by now and that isn't how the UN operates. Its supposed to be unbias.[/QUOTE]
And it makes the UN powerless.
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[QUOTE=yawmwen;37790940]What is the UN supposed to do? Send in military support and make the situation twice as bad?[/QUOTE]
You can't really fuck things up any more over there unless you hand one side a suitcase nuke or two. At this point it's about as bad as it's going to get.
[QUOTE=TestECull;37792791]And it makes the UN powerless.
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You can't really fuck things up any more over there unless you hand one side a suitcase nuke or two. At this point it's about as bad as it's going to get.[/QUOTE]
The UN isn't supposed to have military power. Its supposed to be a democracy, unfortunately world powers manipulate states of influence for votes.
[QUOTE=TestECull;37792791]
You can't really fuck things up any more over there unless you hand one side a suitcase nuke or two. At this point it's about as bad as it's going to get.[/QUOTE]
Send in the US army.
You will end up with bloodshed and suffering for the next 10 years.
[QUOTE=AngryChairR;37789735]Right, well done for noticing this. Christ. There's been videos of the exact situation on the internet for months, it's been clear it's gone to shit a long time ago and they just decided the situation is bad?
Useless cunts.[/QUOTE]
Brahimi has only been in the job three weeks and this is his first report
The Emir of Qatar is talking infront of the UN General Assembly about this right now.
[quote]Emir of #Qatar says that better for Arab countries to intervene in #Syria due to failure of security council aje.me/S2qXfc #UNGA[/quote]
Wonder how this one will turn out.
[QUOTE=Conspiracy;37796587]The Emir of Qatar is talking infront of the UN General Assembly about this right now.
Wonder how this one will turn out.[/QUOTE]
Qatar? You mean the same that, along with Saudi Arabia, have been funneling money and loads of weapons to rebels?
YUP TOTALLY UNBIASED
[QUOTE=Florence;37796831]Qatar? You mean the same that, along with Saudi Arabia, have been funneling money and loads of weapons to rebels?
YUP TOTALLY UNBIASED[/QUOTE]
What does bias have to do with literally anything in that quote at all?
[QUOTE=Conspiracy;37796881]What does bias have to do with literally anything in that quote at all?[/QUOTE]
It has everything to do with everything. Supporting violence isn't going to solve problems, its just going to give Russia and Chinese excuses to funnel advanced weaponry into the Syrian army. What needs to happen is a cease fire, let the government rebuild utilities and a standard of living again then enact reforms. But neither the rebels nor the administration seem to care much.
[QUOTE=Chernarus;37800304]It has everything to do with everything. Supporting violence isn't going to solve problems, its just going to give Russia and Chinese excuses to funnel advanced weaponry into the Syrian army. What needs to happen is a cease fire, let the government rebuild utilities and a standard of living again then enact reforms. But neither the rebels nor the administration seem to care much.[/QUOTE]
I highly doubt there would be a ceasefire, both sides have one goal in mind, get rid of the other side. (apart from the whole get rid of the oppresive regime etc of course)
It's another Bosnia, everyone dies waiting for US intervention. When the USA does intervene it would be a little too late with too many lives lost -if it isn't happening already-
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