• Minecraft 2 unlikely from Microsoft: "We need to meet the needs of the community"
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how could you possibly make a minecraft 2 it's not that type of game, it's a game to build upon itself, giving the core more to use not making a new one.
DID [B]YOU[/B] WANNA FIND OUT [U]WHAT[/U] MINECRAFT STEVE [I]DID NEXT?[/I] [B]BUY MINECRAFT 2: OBSIDIAN BOOGALOO[/B] TO CONTINUE THIS [I]EPIC[/I] TALE! Yeah it is not a narrative game, so rushing a sequel when the game has had a single proper release for ages would be an obvious cash grab. Good on Microsoft for actually wanting consumer money and knowing how to get it for once. now halo pls
[QUOTE=Nibroc;46341759]how could you possibly make a minecraft 2 it's not that type of game, it's a game to build upon itself, giving the core more to use not making a new one.[/QUOTE] If they ported it to another engine that looked better on the eyes, supported anti aliasing and other options like that, along with improving how quick chunks load and shit, I'd buy it again
[QUOTE=Nibroc;46341759]how could you possibly make a minecraft 2 it's not that type of game, it's a game to build upon itself, giving the core more to use not making a new one.[/QUOTE] Its going to happen at some point when they declare the current stuff(core/engine) too shit to iterate further on.
I'll believe it when I hear of Modding API
Why not just iterate the game in a similar manner to what Garry did with Gmod? Port Minecraft to a better engine, touch up the details (better options menu, chunk generation, etc) give it modding support and call it Minecraft 2, while making it a free update. Then improve on the game as time and technology improves. Garrysmod is going to be 10 years old this December I believe and it's still selling. The only thing that would probably be a damper on this idea are the console ports of the game considering how damn limiting consoles are for games like this.
Hope this means better performance and mod API, that's pretty much the biggest requests from the community.
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;46342563]Hope this means better performance and mod API, that's pretty much the biggest requests from the community.[/QUOTE] Yeah, say what you want about Microsoft, but they can get shit done when they're desperate. Minecraft's largest install base is on the PC, and the PC version is practically held together with chewing gum and pipe cleaners when you compare it to the console versions. If Microsoft is telling the truth about listening to fans (and I think they might be, since Phil Spencer is a cool guy), this could mean good things for Minecraft on the PC. Actual creative direction instead of just half-assedly stealing features from mods and then never finishing them. [QUOTE=Nibroc;46341759]how could you possibly make a minecraft 2 it's not that type of game, it's a game to build upon itself, giving the core more to use not making a new one.[/QUOTE] I think people were more worried about a Minecraft 2 because Minecraft itself is multi-platform. Microsoft said they were going to give all versions of the game the same treatment, and people took that to mean "we're going to abandon all platforms of Minecraft and make a new, identical, exclusive Minecraft 2."
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;46342563]Hope this means better performance and mod API, that's pretty much the biggest requests from the community.[/QUOTE] That, and a monthly update, even if its just bug fixes.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;46341988]If they ported it to another engine that looked better on the eyes, supported anti aliasing and other options like that, along with improving how quick chunks load and shit, I'd buy it again[/QUOTE] Id buy that if they also added a shitton of good content and perhaps some re-imaginationss, a little bit more complexity, that sort of thing.
It's nice hearing Microsoft care so much about the community. Now seeing what kind of new stuff they will propose, would be nicer.
Gotta say I'm pleasantly surprised. I thought that MS was gonna start to do things to benefit them more than the community, but so far they seem to be doing a pretty good job.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;46341988]If they ported it to another engine that looked better on the eyes, supported anti aliasing and other options like that, along with improving how quick chunks load and shit, I'd buy it again[/QUOTE] It used to support antialiasing (through Nvidia control panel), but then the 1.8 update came and fucked it up. :c
[QUOTE=paul simon;46344208]It used to support antialiasing (through Nvidia control panel), but then the 1.8 update came and fucked it up. :c[/QUOTE] It used to look so smooth hnng
[QUOTE=Nibroc;46341759]how could you possibly make a minecraft 2 it's not that type of game, it's a game to build upon itself, giving the core more to use not making a new one.[/QUOTE] At some point they'll have to switch engine and remake it from scratch to support more content and more stability. See Binding of Isaac.
I think with professional programmers at the helm they can clean up what's there. But if they revamped the whole thing from ground up id go for it.
If MS ever went the Sequel route for Minecraft, I'd love to see a more "HD" Minecraft? Like, keep the general blocky style but soften the edges for close-up blocks, give model details some actual depth instead of using paper-thin sprites and overlays, more options for character customization (voxel painting like [url=http://www.minddesk.com/]Qubicle[/url]?)… Just a ton of visual polish and expanded features on top of the main game. And modding API. And a new rendering engine, and [i]Not Java For The Love Of God[/i].
Wouldn't a sequel be a good thing though? I mean, if they had a group of competent developers from the start to re-write Minecraft now... It might be able to reach some of the great potential that the current game still lacks, years on.
[QUOTE=Jebus;46349745]Wouldn't a sequel be a good thing though? I mean, if they had a group of competent developers from the start to re-write Minecraft now... It might be able to reach some of the great potential that the current game still lacks, years on.[/QUOTE] The engine always limited the potential of the game, imagine if it had a way larger render distance and loaded smoother.
I'd actually play minecraft if it was running on a better engine. Java, just...egh.
i like how everyone likes to blame java.
I mean, Java is okay - don't get me wrong. Runescape had been based on Java forever but to deny that there are more efficient ways of doing things than using Java today would be crazy especially considering the budget and resources that they had available. It's pretty impressive to look at what they were able to achieve with it though.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;46356484]it isnt the java that makes minecraft shitty and slow[/QUOTE] It isn't exactly helping, though. But then again, Notch is a hobbyist programmer who didn't expect Minecraft to get as big as it is, and didn't plan too far ahead even when it started getting big.
[QUOTE=Nibroc;46341759]how could you possibly make a minecraft 2 it's not that type of game, it's a game to build upon itself, giving the core more to use not making a new one.[/QUOTE] honestly it would probably be a good idea. the game is so terribly coded that they can't make proper updates without reverse engineering everything. a ground-up rebuild could be the best thing to happen to minecraft.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;46356484]it isnt the java that makes minecraft shitty and slow[/QUOTE] Notch code is notoriously known for being a mess. They're making a large effort to rewrite everything, but even with the rewrites they seem to be implementing stupid decisions into the engine purely because it's industry standard. Optifine is the proof that minecraft doesn't need to run as shit as it does. I understand that the guy who made it turned down having his work implemented into the official game, but it's not like they can't figure out what they're doing wrong either.
[QUOTE=Datsun;46342323]Why not just iterate the game in a similar manner to what Garry did with Gmod? Port Minecraft to a better engine, touch up the details (better options menu, chunk generation, etc) give it modding support and call it Minecraft 2, while making it a free update. Then improve on the game as time and technology improves. Garrysmod is going to be 10 years old this December I believe and it's still selling. The only thing that would probably be a damper on this idea are the console ports of the game considering how damn limiting consoles are for games like this.[/QUOTE] Yeah but far more people own Minecraft than Garry's Mod. It might actually become a problem that they run out of people to sell the current game to. It would be stupid to upgrade Minecraft into 'Minecraft 2' without putting a price tag on it.
As long as they don't remove custom skins in favor of $9 Skin Packs like on the Xbox.
[QUOTE=Datsun;46342323]Why not just iterate the game in a similar manner to what Garry did with Gmod? Port Minecraft to a better engine, touch up the details (better options menu, chunk generation, etc) give it modding support and call it Minecraft 2, while making it a free update. Then improve on the game as time and technology improves. Garrysmod is going to be 10 years old this December I believe and it's still selling. The only thing that would probably be a damper on this idea are the console ports of the game considering how damn limiting consoles are for games like this.[/QUOTE] Agreed. Dota 2 with [B]Source 2[/B] is still Dota 2
[QUOTE=RichyZ;46356484]it isnt the java that makes minecraft shitty and slow[/QUOTE] No it's the absolutely horrendous foundations that the game is built on, but at this point there's so much shit that's wrong with it and so much flimsy garbage added on top of it that they might as well restart it from scratch.
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