[B]Notice: I double posted this thread by accident due to kids DDOSing FP[/B]
So, I got a weird branded ceiling fan here which clearly has a ruined speed control, as
the other night it was working fine on low speed, but now when I'm setting it to low,
the motor obviously receives no power, as flicking the light switch and the blades
don't even move. This fan has been running multiple times over 24 hours
and this problem creeped up on me (I had a slight issue with the speed
control 2 days ago), but now it's broken apperantly. Also, when I put it on high,
the motor performs as it's on medium, which is noisy as fuck.
What do I have to do to repair / replace the speed controller?
As it's quite hindering to have this thing borked.
Image for identification:
[T]http://i.imgur.com/DAxHFoM.jpg[/T]
[T]http://i.imgur.com/h1StTzB.jpg[/T]
I will provide more information when it's needed to identify this fan.
Update: Apperantly this thing is part of the Encon P42 series. (All I found was a model number saying P42 Series).
We have a similar fan, on the chain cords on that one you find a label saying Encon.
Edit: Here is as similar as it can be:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj4F1Kw2iXk[/url]
Conclusion: Encon Princess 42'' fan.
I doubt you'd find a replacement, as for repair ehhh you really need to know what your doing, if your really determined to fix it open it up and post pictures or just go buy a new one.
I may ditch this thing, but not now, as I will be away for a week. If my dad is
riddance-happy I just put it on the loft and hang on to it for future repair. If I happen
to replace it, I just leave a light bulb dangling on the ceiling until I have a new fan.
Mmm, crach it open and lets have a look inside it, im curious, probibly wouldnt be hard or expencive to fix.
Not related to the thread but PM a mod to close the other thread so that all the replies are in the same thread
[QUOTE=Ldesu;41512981]Not related to the thread but PM a mod to close the other thread so that all the replies are in the same thread[/QUOTE]
Good idea, little mistake due to the servers being slow. I let them have a PM.
[editline]19th July 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=nuttyboffin;41512164]Mmm, crach it open and lets have a look inside it, im curious, probibly wouldnt be hard or expencive to fix.[/QUOTE]
Just took it apart. Have a look.
[T]http://i.imgur.com/phpIvOm.jpg[/T]
I have posted this on a other forum too, for additional information.
As I am bad in recognizing other type of capacitors, they said
the black box thing where the yellow and violet wires go to
is dead. Now I just hope it indeed is a 1.5uF capacitor.
[editline]19th July 2013[/editline]
[B]Update:[/B] I will be gone for a week, just so you will know why there's
so much radio silence in the days ahead.
You could simply buy a new one, just checked Home Depot and the cheapest one's only $26. They're relatively easy to install.
Question is if such a cheap fan wouldn't collapse due to its own operation. I have a good look as soon
as we're back from Germany.
JBack into this, I'm quite sure it is the capacitor that's going out. How
do I find out what type it is in order to get the correct replacement?
I can't use te capacitor of the other same fan as that o
ne is bad too.
[QUOTE=Merijnwitje;41539322]JBack into this, I'm quite sure it is the capacitor that's going out. How
do I find out what type it is in order to get the correct replacement?
I can't use te capacitor of the other same fan as that o
ne is bad too.[/QUOTE]
It's probably going to be something similar to [url=http://dickbest.nl/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=1158]this[/url] or [url=http://www.ebay.nl/itm/Ceiling-Fan-Capacitor-CBB61-1-5uf-450VAC-2-Wire-50-60Hz-/181031722154?pt=AU_B_I_Electrical_Test_Equipment&hash=item2a2654dcaa#ht_1988wt_1139] this[/url] but try taking it out to make sure.
I certainly will as soon as I'm back at Friday from holiday, and have the fan
removed from the ceiling.
But before I forget, the first capacitor you shown me sounds
more logical to me. The current one has three wires going to it.
So, this is the capacitor:
[T]http://i.imgur.com/MR9HBZE.jpg[/T]
And this is my new desk light as far as it takes:
[T]http://i.imgur.com/NG2xpWM.jpg[/T]
Now I'm dealing with the problem that I can't find a replacement capacitor pack.
I can't use two individual capacitors as I don't have any information on
it's circuits. This particular model is so ''rare'' that there's no information to be
found on Google. No datasheets, nothing.
Any ideas?
Well the capacitor is rated for 0,8µF on one section and 0,5 µF on the other, I guess you could replace it with 820nF and 470nF capacitors both rated at 450 V AC.
Are there no other markings on the capacitor to indicate what goes to what wire?
No, no markings at all on the wires. Also I forgot to update this.
As I have VERY little experience in capacitors, I was trying to find a replacement
capacitor pack (2 caps in one pack). But as there aren't any of them available online,
I gave this thing up, threw it in the back yard and left it in a night of rain. Now
a new fan is on the way.
(This one in case anyone's wondering:)
[T]http://www.lampenlicht.nl/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/512x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/8/9/89523-1.jpg[/T]
[QUOTE=Merijnwitje;41626882]No, no markings at all on the wires. Also I forgot to update this.
As I have VERY little experience in capacitors, I was trying to find a replacement
capacitor pack (2 caps in one pack). But as there aren't any of them available online,
I gave this thing up, threw it in the back yard and left it in a night of rain. Now
a new fan is on the way.
(This one in case anyone's wondering:)
[T]http://www.lampenlicht.nl/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/512x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/8/9/89523-1.jpg[/T][/QUOTE]
Yeah that's probably the best thing to do if you haven't done any mains work before.
[QUOTE=ddrl46;41658067]Yeah that's probably the best thing to do if you haven't done any mains work before.[/QUOTE]
This new one has a capacitor which is much easier to replace, it uses a single 1.5uF start/run
capacitor.
Not to mention, this is my first time I actually DID mains work, installed it yesterday
with some extra help of my brother (he was holding the fan while I was doing the wiring),
I don't trust the J hook on the mounting plate. I had it running for a good 12 hours
and am very satisfied with it, it wobbles about 50% less than the old one on high speed,
while the downrod ball isn't even attached to the canopy, it just hangs there, like
you can lift the whole fan up (minus the canopy), let it loose and the downrod ball
just crashes on the bottom of the canopy again. Quite funny it is.
Got another STUPID problem here,
the new one was working like a charm for like 5 days, until now,
I have a really annoying noise from the bearings, some grinding and ticking,
you can hear it on all speeds, no matter what, don't tell me I need to open it up
and grease the bearings? Any ideas?
[QUOTE=Merijnwitje;41706657]Got another STUPID problem here,
the new one was working like a charm for like 5 days, until now,
I have a really annoying noise from the bearings, some grinding and ticking,
you can hear it on all speeds, no matter what, don't tell me I need to open it up
and grease the bearings? Any ideas?[/QUOTE]
Sounds like the bearings to me. If it's a cheap unit the bearings or tracks are sometimes made out of nylon which can deform if it gets too hot leading to this or it may not be properly greased or it's possible if you applied force on it in the wrong direction while installing that a bearing has cracked.
[QUOTE=metallics;41707612]Sounds like the bearings to me. If it's a cheap unit the bearings or tracks are sometimes made out of nylon which can deform if it gets too hot leading to this or it may not be properly greased or it's possible if you applied force on it in the wrong direction while installing that a bearing has cracked.[/QUOTE]
Force hasn't been applied at all, well, maybe. It may have occurred when I mounted the blades, as they are mounted on top of the flywheel / motor housing. Also, originally the price of this fan was 168 euros, but there had been a HUGE discount of 78% (39 euros) on this thing. That should mean it would stay quiet for a couple of years at least? Well, price doesn't mean too much. But leaving the fan on for a couple of hours on high, the noise will become less overtime until it's gone or just the air movement overwhelms it. But setting it to low and the noise will come back after a while, it has been running for the whole night and now it's reasonably quiet.
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