Video shows white cops performing illegal roadside cavity search of black man
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[QUOTE]K9 officer named Clark Smith arrives. He walks around the car with his dog. A fourth police officer then shows up. The four officers then spend the next 15 minutes conducting a thorough search of the car. Early into the search, Medlin exclaims, “Uh-huh!” as if he has found something incriminating. But nothing comes of it.
After the search of the car comes up empty, Medlin tells the female officer to “search her real good,” referring to Hicks. The personal search of Hicks is conducted off camera, but according to the complaint filed by Phillips, it allegedly involved exposing Hicks’s breasts on the side of the road in a populated area. The complaint also alleges that this was all done in direct view of the three male officers. That search, too, produced no contraband.
The officers then turn their attention to Pontoon. Medlin asks Pontoon to get out of the car. He cuffs him and begins to pat him down. Toward the end of the first video, at about the 12:46:30 mark, he tells Pontoon: “You’ve got something here right between your legs. There’s something hard right there between your legs.” Medlin says that he’s going to “put some gloves on.”[/QUOTE]
[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2016/04/01/video-shows-white-cops-performing-roadside-cavity-search-of-black-man/[/url]
Video can be found in the article.
Searches, plural because apparently it's easy to miss stuff in a rectum
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;50054421]What the fuck?
Do they really carry gloves on? Is there a "legal" roadside cavity search??[/QUOTE]
What's wrong with carrying gloves?
Where did this happen again?
[QUOTE]Aiken, South Carolina[/QUOTE]
Ahhhhhh that explains it
[QUOTE=mcgrath618;50054437]Where did this happen again?
Ahhhhhh that explains it[/QUOTE]
There's at least one of these posts in every thread where something happens in a particular state in the US.
besides pat downs to make sure a suspect isnt strapped, searches like these oughtta really be carried out by a medical professional. shouldnt a warrent be required for tehse things?
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;50054466]Actually, come to think of it, I guess they use one-use plastic gloves in cavity searches and they can use them while touching evidence too.
I kinda thought there for a moment that they used a special kind of glove for searches, and they would be carrying them around only to perform cavity searches.[/QUOTE]
dude, they're regular examination gloves people get from the doctors. You know cops deal with evidence, unknown substances, chemicals, blood borne pathogens, and other hazards. If you're a cop and don't carry gloves you're a fucking idiot.
As for searches like this, totally unwarranted, uncalled for, and extreme violation of everything...cavity searches in the field are not really a good thing to do unless something extreme calls for it. Even in jails cavity searches are a case by case basis. Usually to prevent contraband from entering the jail/prison.
Though while I don't stand up for the officers, this article is extremely bias and a lot of the verbiage shows me they're trying to spin a story. Even bring up other irrelevant facts not related to the case.
[quote]According to a federal lawsuit filed by attorney Robert Phillips, what you see in the video below occurred in the town of Aiken, S.C., starting at about 12:20 p.m. on Oct. 2, 2014. The two occupants of the car are black. All the police officers are white. [/quote]
Wow, jeez thanks for pointing the obvious. Lets just assume they're racist.
[quote]At 12:50:25, Medlin tells Pontoon to turn around and explains that he suspects him because he recognized him from when he worked narcotics. “Now I know you from before, from when I worked dope. I seen you. That’s why I put a dog on the car.”[/quote]
Oh look, it is because the cop knew the dude from past arrests. While I don't agree with what was done but it does not mean it was racially motivated.
I'm all for calling people out on shit practices and doing shitty things that is fine. Don't try and make this into a White vs black / Racist thing.
[QUOTE=DeEz;50054446]There's at least one of these posts in every thread where something happens in a particular state in the US.[/QUOTE]
Anywhere in the dirty south will not surprise me when a news story like this happens. I would be shocked if it said Maine, or Vermont, or Oregon, but Alabama? South Carolina? Yeah, sounds about right.
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;50054421]What the fuck?
Do they really carry gloves on? Is there a "legal" roadside cavity search??[/QUOTE]
cops wear gloves when they need to search purses and other bags
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;50054421]What the fuck?
Do they really carry gloves on? Is there a "legal" roadside cavity search??[/QUOTE]
Gloves are fairly standard carry for cops anywhere, allows them to handle evidence without interfering with forensics and means that if they're dealing with a suspect who could be carrying needles they don't have to worry about the risk of catching HIV from them.
But yeah, whilst I'm skeptical about there being a racial motive it does seem like a fairly shitty reason to pull someone over and a cavity search in public view (with officers of the opposite gender observing) is outright unacceptable.
[QUOTE=mcgrath618;50054437]Where did this happen again?
Ahhhhhh that explains it[/QUOTE]
TBH this is the first I've heard of this and I live in this area- though at the same time, the local government and police forces are pretty inept for a number of reasons.
[QUOTE=MR-X;50054576]dude, they're regular examination gloves people get from the doctors. You know cops deal with evidence, unknown substances, chemicals, blood borne pathogens, and other hazards. If you're a cop and don't carry gloves you're a fucking idiot.
As for searches like this, totally unwarranted, uncalled for, and extreme violation of everything...cavity searches in the field are not really a good thing to do unless something extreme calls for it. Even in jails cavity searches are a case by case basis. Usually to prevent contraband from entering the jail/prison.
Though while I don't stand up for the officers, this article is extremely bias and a lot of the verbiage shows me they're trying to spin a story. Even bring up other irrelevant facts not related to the case.
Wow, jeez thanks for pointing the obvious. Lets just assume they're racist.
Oh look, it is because the cop knew the dude from past arrests. While I don't agree with what was done but it does not mean it was racially motivated.
I'm all for calling people out on shit practices and doing shitty things that is fine. Don't try and make this into a White vs black / Racist thing.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you 100%, but the toxic race dialogue is one of the loudest and most belligerent taking place these days. We should not just as individuals but as a people be able to understand an article like this for what it is: blatant outrage porn. Yet people love drinking that fucking koolaid, so there's revenue to be had in being purposefully divisive.
Isn't this against the 4th amendment?
[QUOTE=DeEz;50054446]There's at least one of these posts in every thread where something happens in a particular state in the US.[/QUOTE]
That's because most states that aren't California, Washington, New York or Texas tend to get grouped up into "flyover states". America's heartland is largely considered an embarrassment.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;50055815]Isn't this against the 4th amendment?[/QUOTE]
It is, unless the officers could provide reasonable suspicion that was good enough to justify sticking a probe up peoples ass. From what the article said, they clearly didn't.
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;50054421]What the fuck?
Do they really carry gloves on? Is there a "legal" roadside cavity search??[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure most cops carry gloves for perfectly legitimate reasons. They deal with blood, they deal with evidence etc.
How to prove it's racism? How to prove it's not?
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;50054421]What the fuck?
Do they really carry gloves on? Is there a "legal" roadside cavity search??[/QUOTE]
Maybe they have them so they don't damage evidence with their own fingerprints? Use your brain, dude.
It is illegal to pull someone over at random and search them in my state; should be a federal thing imo
[QUOTE=Map in a box;50058213]It is illegal to pull someone over at random and search them in my state; should be a federal thing imo[/QUOTE]
It is a federal thing. You know why it is illegal in your state? The Constitution.
That doesn't mean, however, the officer cannot make-up an excuse to pull you over and search you.
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;50054466]Actually, come to think of it, I guess they use one-use plastic gloves in cavity searches and they can use them while touching evidence too.
I kinda thought there for a moment that they used a special kind of glove for searches, and they would be carrying them around only to perform cavity searches.[/QUOTE]
They also use them when some dude is hopped up on some shit and bleeding. Or naked.
[editline]3rd April 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Map in a box;50058213]It is illegal to pull someone over at random and search them in my state; should be a federal thing imo[/QUOTE]
It's illegal in every state, an officer needs probable cause. And they don't have to make anything up, either, an officer doesn't have to follow anyone for more than 2 minutes to find something that's considered probable cause because so many minor things you do as a driver, or with your car, are PC. Things like tinted driver side windows, shit hanging from your mirror, licence plate not illuminated properly, and any minor traffic violation
They also have to have PC to search your vehicle if you don't give them permission. And giving them permission to search your car is not permission to search a locked suit case in the trunk, either. They would need your permission or PC to specifically search it, as well, or a warrant if they have neither
You do not need probable cause to pull a vehicle over. You need only reasonable suspicion. Huge difference in the two.
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