So i'm getting a new netbook to replace my laptop that has long outstayed it welcome and I was looking at inspiron duo and this asus [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220851[/url]
both have the same dual core atom but the asus has the ion while the duo has the nm10 which is like a rebranded gma 3100but I have no way to confirm that. I really like the tablet/netbook thing going on with the duo but I also like to play some games sometimes and I hear that the ion is pretty good at that. can the nm10 play source games?
I've never seen a netbook handle source games...
[QUOTE=nivek;26908889]I've never seen a netbook handle source games...[/QUOTE]
That's not quite right. I've seen an Acer eee handle it at a somewhat playable frame rate.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;26909005]That's not quite right. I've seen an Acer eee handle it at a somewhat playable frame rate.[/QUOTE]
In my opinion the netbooks are far from worth it.
[QUOTE=nivek;26916178]In my opinion the netbooks are far from worth it.[/QUOTE]
Over 10 hours of battery life can be very useful on long trips.
Don't waste your money with this. I made that mistake, it's far from powerful and you'll regret it. And playing source games? Forget about it.
[QUOTE=nivek;26908889]I've never seen a netbook handle source games...[/QUOTE]
You must have not seen many netbooks then. A lot of the Atom + ION netbooks are perfectly capable of running source at a fairly high framerate on medium/high settings.
Nevertheless, don't bother to play games on a netbook. The screen is too small to see anything properly, and the cramped up keyboard is simply disgusting for gaming.
[QUOTE=B1N4RY!;26916802]You must have not seen many netbooks then.
A lot of the Atom + ION netbooks are perfectly capable of running source on High at a pretty high frame rate[/QUOTE]
Can I see a source on that?
[QUOTE=compwhizii;26916817]Can I see a source on that?[/QUOTE]
I can't really provide any sources on that, it's more of a personal experience.
I've used a netbook with Atom 330 with ION before, it can run gmod at about 40 fps on medium-high, not a solid High.
[editline]23rd December 2010[/editline]
I have heard some pretty good performance with the latest ATOM and ION 2 combinations though.
I have decided to not get the duo. also I don't think I can find something better than the asus for $420
There's some guide out there to getting TF2 to play on netbooks without ION. Like mine, N270 + GMA 945SE. I haven't actually done it, but apparently 30fps if you install a low-res texture pack, a low-poly model pack, and mess around with some files to disable particles.
I certainly didn't buy my Asus EeePC 1005HA for gaming though, it's extremely light and has amazing battery life, so I'll take it to school with me, without a charger, and it'll get me through the entire day, half of which is spent taking notes on it/browsing the web during lunch.
You know, netbooks are GREAT for pre-source gaming, you don't need TF2. In getting a severely underpowered pico-ITX motherboard, I have been rediscovering some great classics: Unreal, Quake, Doom series, Star Trek Elite Force, a lot of pre-2002 games are easily playable on low powered hardware.
When I do game on my netbook, it's those $2 games Steam has had on sale for the past two Christmases. Peggle, Osmos, Plants vs. Zombies, Trakmania (on low), multiwinia, etc.
Oh yeah, and GTA / GTA II as well, they're surprisingly fun...
I picked up "Great Qin Warriors" at Micro Center for $0.70, I bet it'd work on my netbook... I installed it on my desktop, and I'm going to play with my friends at our next LAN party, it's terrible. Would not recommend unless you find it for <$1, in which case get it to laugh at how horrible it is.
No to derail
But whats a good netbook for about $300 that has a good battery life
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;26916227]Over 10 hours of battery life can be very useful on long trips.[/QUOTE]
Not when you have no processing power...
if I were you, I would strongly reconsider the reasons for getting a netbook over a laptop, because apart from maybe battery life and portability, which you can also get out of a 13" laptop, netbooks aren't very cost effective
The Asus 1215N should work great. My less powerful 1201T manages CS:S, GMod and Minecraft fine. L4D runs to an extent and TF2 is somewhat playable with a performance config. With the ION2 chipset and the dual core 1.8 GHz Atom, the 1215N would work excellently for lighter gaming.
UT2004 runs excellently, while it's on sale I'd snag the Unreal Deal Pack on Steam. Even the shittiest netbooks can play the earlier games smoothly.
[QUOTE=Alcapwne;26923124]if I were you, I would strongly reconsider the reasons for getting a netbook over a laptop, because apart from maybe battery life and portability, which you can also get out of a 13" laptop, netbooks aren't very cost effective[/QUOTE]
Have to agree with this
[QUOTE=nivek;26923051]Not when you have no processing power...[/QUOTE]
They call them a NETbook for a reason you know
[QUOTE=nivek;26923051]Not when you have no processing power...[/QUOTE]
It's still great, unless you desperately want to play Crysis, in which case, enjoy the other 8 1/2 hours of you staring out the window. I'd rather play Peggle than stare out a window for 8 hours.
[editline]24th December 2010[/editline]
and with a 3G connection (or a cell phone + tethering), you can play just about any flash game and browse Facepunch without worrying about battery
There are a couple of netbooks that can some games well. They have an nVidia GPU instead of the standard Intel GMA, but they aren't worth it.
I can play CS:S at 16 fps on my netbook
[IMG]http://media.bestofmicro.com/G/B/263675/original/wowac.png[/IMG]
The AMD based aspire one is good, but this is just for WoW, don't know about other things
But, as you can see:
[img]http://media.bestofmicro.com/T/J/177319/original/cod4_noaa.png[/img]
Even with ION netbooks struggle with games.
Possibly the only netbook that can play your games well is the M11x R2, But really, would you pay 1099$ for a netbook? A mediocre computer by today's standards?
[QUOTE=PunchedInFac;26928515][img_thumb]http://media.bestofmicro.com/G/B/263675/original/wowac.png[/img_thumb]
The AMD based aspire one is good, but this is just for WoW[/QUOTE]
That looks more like a CPU bottleneck than a GPU one.
[QUOTE=Alcapwne;26923124]if I were you, I would strongly reconsider the reasons for getting a netbook over a laptop, because apart from maybe battery life and portability, which you can also get out of a 13" laptop, netbooks aren't very cost effective[/QUOTE]
So what would be the most bang for the buck in the sub $500 range? it would be nice to play my games on the go but is there really that much better then a dual core atom with a 2nd gen ion for that?
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;26928548]That looks more like a CPU bottleneck than a GPU one.[/QUOTE]
The ION and ION2 chipsets ARE bottlenecked by the CPU.
When handling 1080p HD playback, almost all the processing is being done by the ION/ION2 chipset.
ION wasn't designed with gaming as first priority, instead that's troublefree and smooth 1080p HD playback.
Basically doing what the ATOM cpu's couldn't do on their own.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;26928548]That looks more like a CPU bottleneck than a GPU one.[/QUOTE]
What you mean the Acer? It's AMD based with a "4225" I hardly doubt you can get any more juice out.
If you DO mean the ION netbooks then I agree with you.
Netbooks are great for DOOM.
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