Malaysia Airlines: Crash site in Ukraine goes neglected as bodies decompose - Polidicks

[QUOTE][B]Grabove, Ukraine (CNN)[/B] -- Debris from Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 lay splayed for miles across silent rural fields in eastern Ukraine on Saturday. Two days after the jet crashed, some bodies remained strapped in seat belts -- wearing inflight headphones.Conspicuously missing at the crash site near Torez were international forensic workers needed to secure and sort the wreckage, and a recovery crew to identify and remove with dignity the bodies of [URL="http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/18/world/europe/ukraine-malaysia-airlines-crash/index.html?hpt=hp_t1"]the 298 people who were on board MH17[/URL]. A few things have been moved. Luggage was stacked in piles; mementos, children's toys were handled. Most everything is unguarded, there for the curious -- or for the taking. But the debris field hasn't changed much overall since it slammed into place from about 30,000 feet in the air. Not like it would change, if investigators had a chance to cordon it off and catalog it. A round piece of wreckage the size of a small garage -- part of the cabin perhaps -- stood tilted over personal effects of people heading for vacation. Fields were bestrewn with novels, beach sandals, guide books and colorful carry-on bags. And all around them were the bodies of their owners, some dressed in shorts and other vacation wear. With leaders around the world calling for a swift, thorough and professional investigation, in eastern Ukraine, a small group of local government workers camping near the wreckage emerge from their tents in the mornings. They split up the crash site territory in an orderly manner to look for bodies, said journalist Noah Sneider, who visited the site. The emergency workers mark spots where they find human remains with stakes and tie white rags around them. There are so many of them. Bodies lie by the roadside, some in fields, some intertwined with parts of the aircraft. And they are spread out so far. "Half of them are so mangled, you couldn't identify them," Sneider said. [B]Collecting bodies not their job[/B] A witness who saw the people falling to Earth on Tuesday said they had appeared from out of the cloud cover -- like horrifying rainfall, after the plane tore apart in the sky. Emergency workers tell CNN it's not their job to collect the bodies. And a local pro-Russian rebel leader has said that officials from the Netherlands and Malaysia asked that the bodies not be moved. But rescue crews and inspectors from those countries are not on site. And to get there, they would have to drive about 90 minutes from the city of Donetsk down pot-hole pocked roads. But these lead through a war zone, past checkpoints set up by varying local militias. There is no central command, virtually no rule of law. Three separate pro-Russian rebel groups guard the perimeter of the crash site alone, Sneider said. [B]A small international delegation[/B] A delegation of 21 monitors from the Organization of Cooperation and Safety in Europe made it in after assurances from rebel leaders, but local militiamen at the site allowed them only a brief view of a small outtake of the crash site. "It basically looks like the biggest crime scene in the world right now, guarded by a bunch of guys in uniform with heavy firepower who are quite inhospitable," said OSCE spokesman Michael Bociurkiw. They asked militiamen for their commander, their leader, he said. "No one showed up." An armed man who appeared to have been drinking was there, Bociurkiw said, but he wasn't helpful. "He kind of rushed all of them away, including the journalists." Militiamen would have to trust international and Ukrainian crews enough to let them in, and trust is scarce in the conflict zone, Sneider said. Many militiamen hold conspiracy theories about the crash. "They claim that it's a provocation conjured up by the Ukrainian authorities in Kiev." They don't trust anything coming out of Kiev, he said.[/QUOTE] [url]http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/19/world/asia/ukraine-malaysia-airlines-scene-story/index.html[/url] This is what happens when the rebels are in charge [editline]19th July 2014[/editline] [video=youtube;d_YXhYkBU9s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_YXhYkBU9s&list=UUupvZG-5ko_eiXAupbDfxWw[/video]

That's what happens when a plane crashes in a warzone, regardless of who's controlling it.

Fuck the UN for not doing shit, there are about 193 dutch people in that crashsite. Basically the drunk peasants get away with anything, glory to Russia.

[QUOTE=CasualJoe;45435503]Fuck the UN for not doing shit, there are about 193 dutch people in that crashsite. Basically the drunk peasants get away with anything, glory to Russia.[/QUOTE] Russia sucks.

Bunch of douchebags, go ahead and shoot a civilian passenger jet out of the sky, then go ahead say its not your job to do anything about corpses of a bunch of innocent people rotting in the open.

Apprently rebels removed 38 bodies from the crashsite. Heard it from my parents so no source atm

[QUOTE=RichyZ;45435617]fuck all the other nationalities on that plane also nice shitpost![/QUOTE] He is entitled to additional frustration over his countrymen. Why he blames the UN and not the Dutch government for a delayed response is somewhat confusing. The UN can't do anything.The UN is excellent for diplomatic relations, but is effectively worthless when it comes to action.

[QUOTE=CasualJoe;45435503]Fuck the UN for not doing shit, there are about 193 dutch people in that crashsite. Basically the drunk peasants get away with anything, glory to Russia.[/QUOTE] Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're saying "glory to Russia" despite how much evidence, info and accusation has been pointed towards pro-Russian rebels, who shot down the plane itself accident or not?

[QUOTE=SonicHitman;45435674]Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're saying "glory to Russia" despite how much evidence, info and accusation has been pointed towards pro-Russian rebels, who shot down the plane itself accident or not?[/QUOTE] It is sarcasm.

The rebels seem to present themselves as more and more disrespectful and incompetent with each new report.

[QUOTE=scurr;45435747]The rebels seem to present themselves as more and more disrespectful and incompetent with each new report.[/QUOTE] How dare you refer to the noble warriors of New Russia as disrespectful and incompetent. Glory to the motherland

A paragraph taken from a finnish news source and crudely translated by me: "OSCE-observers report facing troubles at the crash site in eastern Ukraine. The pro russian separatist at the scene behaved rudely and inappropriately, reports the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe. [B]The men were armed and some of them seemed intoxicated.[/B]" Kinda tells you how competent and organized the separatists really are. Oh and [URL="http://www.hs.fi/ulkomaat/Ukraina+syytt%C3%A4%C3%A4+separatisteja+turmakoneen+ruumiiden+varastamisesta/a1405732674007"]here's[/URL] the source if anyone wants to read it through a translator.

What the fuck, by now they might be all bloated. So fucking disrespectful.

I expect the rebels to just pile all the bodies in big hole and then set it on fire.

Are you sure this article is true? The kiev government is actually complaining that the rebels are moving the bodies to morgues rather than leaving them alone. [url]http://www.kmu.gov.ua/control/uk/publish/article?art_id=247468612&cat_id=244274130[/url]

It kills me knowing that the plane was shot down and all these lives lost for absolutely nothing. Then to make matters worse, they're being left to rot instead of being brought home and animals are looting and stripping them of their possessions. Wasn't enough that they took their lives, but now they have to take their stuff.

[QUOTE=MR-X;45436710]It kills me knowing that the plane was shot down and all these lives lost for absolutely nothing. Then to make matters worse, they're being left to rot instead of being brought home and animals are looting and stripping them of their possessions. Wasn't enough that they took their lives, but now they have to take their stuff.[/QUOTE] Wait a minute, who is looting stuff now? Animals as in people or animals as in animals? You're sounding a bit melodramatic to me. But yes it's clear that this plane crash, and notably the crash site is happens to be located on some difficult territory, as in a conflict zone, and it's not even clear who shot it down(?), and therefor it has been said that basically all the stuff is laid wide open around the area, and that no real salvaging, rescue-type operation is underway, just some initial efforts are being made.. which is sad, yes.

[QUOTE=Bat-shit;45436927]Wait a minute, who is looting stuff now? Animals as in people or animals as in animals? You're sounding a bit melodramatic to me. But yes it's clear that this plane crash, and notably the crash site is happens to be located on some difficult territory, as in a conflict zone, and it's not even clear who shot it down(?), and therefor it has been said that basically all the stuff is laid wide open around the area, and that no real salvaging, rescue-type operation is underway, just some initial efforts are being made.. which is sad, yes.[/QUOTE] People who loot stuff from dead people are animals.

[QUOTE=Bat-shit;45436927]Wait a minute, who is looting stuff now? Animals as in people or animals as in animals? You're sounding a bit melodramatic to me. But yes it's clear that this plane crash, and notably the crash site is happens to be located on some difficult territory, as in a conflict zone, and it's not even clear who shot it down(?), and therefor it has been said that basically all the stuff is laid wide open around the area, and that no real salvaging, rescue-type operation is underway, just some initial efforts are being made.. which is sad, yes.[/QUOTE] I think he was referring to the fact that all the possessions [I]are available[/I] for the taking, as nobody is doing anything to secure the crash site and any of those rebels can loot the deceased.

[QUOTE=Cabbage;45436945]I think he was referring to the fact that all the possessions [I]are available[/I] for the taking, as nobody is doing anything to secure the crash site and any of those rebels can loot the deceased.[/QUOTE] Indeed, but it's not just any plane crash. It's pretty big considering a missile launcher may have been used to kill +200 civilians. I doubt there will be much looting anyway.. And news spread faster than people can react... [QUOTE]Local pro-Russian rebel leader has said that officials from the Netherlands and Malaysia asked that the bodies not be moved. [I]But rescue crews and inspectors from those countries are not on site.[/I] [/QUOTE]

I feel sad for the families of the deceased. The dead just lay there rotting, and as far as we know they'll probably never get a proper burial at this rate.

Weird how both of these plane crashes have been extremely difficult to get to.

[QUOTE=supersnail11;45435464]That's what happens when a plane is shot down over a warzone, regardless of who's controlling it.[/QUOTE] The plane didn't [I]crash[/I], it was shot down by insurgents using a miraculously repaired Russian-made anti-aircraft battery stolen from a Ukrainian army base. And those same insurgents are now taking pot shots at anybody who tries to get near the crash site, until they're done looting the wreck.

I'm sure lots of pro-Russian militants are trying to cover up that they shot down the plane. Probably lying to their peers in the process. It's possible that a majority of the troops are very ignorant of their own sides guilt. Believing that Ukraine did it, and that investigators want to blame the rebels by planting evidence.

Hew, New Russia/Donetsk- if you want to be a real country, then you kind of need to enact the functions of a proper government when the time comes. That means taking care of the hundreds of people you killed whose corpses now litter the land.

Oh just outright annex the damn thing and be done with it

Ok Russia that's it, its all been leading up to this hasn't it? East Vs West, Ukrainian Border, 12.00, Friday. Be there or be square.

The fact that those filthy pigs shot down a civilian passenger jet makes me feel sick. I feel so sorry for all the innocent people who died there and their families. They had absolutely nothing to do with this conflict... Seriously, what the fuck is this shit? No way those bastards even tried to contact the pilot and ask them to identify themselfs or whatever. No, they just saw a plane and fucking shot it down.

[QUOTE=supersnail11;45435464]That's what happens when a plane crashes in a warzone, regardless of who's controlling it.[/QUOTE] In almost all the wars throughout history people (soldiers) have generally tried to pick up after the bodies in one way or another rather than just leave them rotting. Calling Ukraine a warzone is a bit of an overstatement. Soldiers and people can go to the crash site without fear of being shot at by the other guys so there's really no reason they have to not clean up the body other than they're lazy, irresponsible scumbags.

Where's the Medical Examiner sergei we kicked him out after he was pro-ukranian Where's the Coroner? sergei please we kicked him out too ...Undertaker? sergei we kicked out literally anyone who thought was pro-Ukrainian, drank tons of alcohol and shot at random people. Oh yeah that's right!