metal music is horrible i know people would say oh its opinion based but how can people listen to guys scream into a microphone for however long these songs go on for
please enlighten me as to how people can listen to grown men scream into a microphone and call it good
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Some metall-bands are actually better than lady gaga for instance y'know...
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please enlighten me as to how people can listen to grown men scream into a microphone and call it good[/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEtx2YTcD94[/media]
He screams here yet its great :v:
I'm not exactly a fan, but I'd imagine it's more than just screaming.
Jesus christ this section has TERRIBLE trolls
It's a hell of a lot more than just screaming. Sit and listen to a real metal band for a while and you'll see what it's about. For beginning metal listening, I'd recommend Metallica. You'll notice something about the skill the individual musicians have on their respective instruments: They actually have some. Now you pick up a guitar and try to shred like Kirk Hammett. Not an easy task, is it? But, there's also more than just instrumental skill. With real, good metal, the song conveys a message, or a feeling, and not just of death and terror. Just give it a chance and I'm sure you'll find something to like about it.
If you don't want to listen to metal, we don't want you listening.
Metal isn't people screaming into a microphone. That's death metal. Metal is Guns and Roses. Metal is Iron maiden. Metal is GOOD.
wrost eh?
Metal is not the [i]worst[/i]
It's not the best but it isn't the [i]worst[/i]
What the hell, are you people retarded?
It's a troll.. get over it.
[QUOTE=Rad McCool;22829196]What the hell, are you people retarded?
It's a troll.. get over it.[/QUOTE]
Thanks man, you have finally made me understand the internet :3
He's right though. I like a bit of metal - when I can hear what the vocalist is saying. It might be 'technical' and 'brutal' and take lots of 'skill'but if the guy/girl is just gonna scream it, why even bother writing vocals? I fear metal has become for too competitive. All these bands trying to play the fastest, the loudest, to scream the longest. It's about being the most 'brutal' and as a result, just gets more and more inaudible. Style over substance, yet the people who listen to it choose to subscribe to this aesthetic, which very much punnets them into liking it because it is their chosen aesthetic. Metal has become a parody of itself.
[QUOTE=KonerBiller;22828844]Metal isn't people screaming into a microphone. That's death metal. Metal is Guns and Roses. Metal is Iron maiden. Metal is GOOD.[/QUOTE]
Goddamn I can't tell if this guy is a troll along with the OP
Metal isn't all about screaming.
Take this for example
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mHe6FMs46o[/media]
most metal bands don't scream.
If wrost means awesome, I'd agree. Though I don't really care for metal with only screaming or growling.
Honestly? I dont think this is was a successful troll at all. Just people calmly saying "no its not screaming :)"
I know its a troll thread but i just cant see a problem with screaming... Shows great devotion :smug:
The only bad genre in all senses is noise
That is all :argh:
[QUOTE=Akayz;22830746]I know its a troll thread but i just cant see a problem with screaming... Shows great devotion :smug:
The only bad genre in all senses is noise
That is all :argh:[/QUOTE]
I agree with this statement in all regards.
Noise is the one enigma to me that will never make sense. How can you call something that is, [b]by definition[/b], the opposite of music, music?
Because if you take the time to get into it and understand it then it sounds good.
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[QUOTE=Publius;22829308]He's right though. I like a bit of metal - when I can hear what the vocalist is saying. It might be 'technical' and 'brutal' and take lots of 'skill'but if the guy/girl is just gonna scream it, why even bother writing vocals? I fear metal has become for too competitive. All these bands trying to play the fastest, the loudest, to scream the longest. It's about being the most 'brutal' and as a result, just gets more and more inaudible. Style over substance, yet the people who listen to it choose to subscribe to this aesthetic, which very much punnets them into liking it because it is their chosen aesthetic. Metal has become a parody of itself.[/QUOTE]
haha, ignorance must be bliss.
[QUOTE=Publius;22829308]He's right though. I like a bit of metal - when I can hear what the vocalist is saying. It might be 'technical' and 'brutal' and take lots of 'skill'but if the guy/girl is just gonna scream it, why even bother writing vocals? I fear metal has become for too competitive. All these bands trying to play the fastest, the loudest, to scream the longest. It's about being the most 'brutal' and as a result, just gets more and more inaudible. Style over substance, yet the people who listen to it choose to subscribe to this aesthetic, which very much punnets them into liking it because it is their chosen aesthetic. Metal has become a parody of itself.[/QUOTE]
Well, to keep it simple, it's all about aesthetics and emotion. I know it's a cliche description now, and I fear it's lost most meaning in this day and age, but when it comes to extreme metal, the vocals serve a dual purpose - both the role of the vocals in less extreme music, but also as an instrumental overtone.
In addition to this, when you include extreme vocals into a piece, you add an entire new dimension of tone. Just like in other forms of music, the tone of the vocals are as important as the rest of the composition: high-pitched singing to low crooning. Extreme vocals simply add upon this - the clean vocal range can only go so far, but when you add in different styles of extreme vocals (screams, grunts, growls, gurgles, shrieks, rasps), and each style has its own range that is comparable to clean-singing ranges, you increase dramatically the total possible tones that can be used.
I think that music that uses multiple vocal styles in them express this to their full extent, such as progressive acts like Opeth, and melodic death acts such as Scar Symmetry and Soilwork.
To answer your question regarding why even writing lyrics, it's actually remarkably simple: learning to understand harsh vocals is extremely easy. It takes a bit of work at first, but when you understand them, it opens up that whole new dimension. Take, for example, the lyrics to Scar Symmetry's "Morphogenesis."
[quote]This is year zero, all we knew has died
the mutiny came so sudden, killing yesterday
Thoughts that forced discordance away,
once more an era is fading
Whatever dreams we're reaching to claim
decides the path we are taking
Gone forever, we are done with worldviews mechanical
(None shall) None shall ever be a slave to thoughts inside their heads
Mind is the master, Morphogenesis
This structure remained untrodden, a new reality
Gone forever, we are done with worldviews mechanical
(None shall) None shall ever be a slave to thoughts inside their heads
Gone forever, we are done with worldviews mechanical
(None shall) None shall ever be a slave to thoughts inside their heads
Bleeding through all spheres
all our thoughts, all our fears gaining life
soul, mind, heart, feeding starts now
rising from ashen dust
through our sins, karmic cost
measured souls
weigh our hearts, judge our thoughts - no
Thoughts that forced discordance away,
once more an era is fading
Whatever dreams we're reaching to claim
decides the path we are taking
Gone forever, we are done with worldviews mechanical
(None shall) None shall ever be a slave to thoughts inside their heads
Gone forever, we are done with worldviews mechanical
(None shall) None shall ever be a slave to thoughts inside their heads[/quote]
And then listen to the song, listening along with the lyrics.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mebSi4PDC34&feature=related[/media]
So to make a long explanation short, it all comes down to opening up a wider spectrum of tonal expression. :v:
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Looking back over this, I realize how poor an explanation this is. Unfortunately, I don't know how to word it any better.
This is a very hard concept to explain, in my opinion. It's kind of like describing the color yellow to a blind person - they just have to be able to see it to understand what yellow is.
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