• 225 Jewish Survivors and their Descendants of Nazi Genocide Condemn the "Massacre" of Palestinians
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[quote]225 Jewish survivors and descendents of Jewish survivors of the Nazi genocide have signed a letter condemning Israel’s massacre in Gaza and calling for an end to the genocide of the Palestinian people. In the letter, they also speak out against the abuse of their histories to promote the dehumanization of Palestinians. The survivors further condemned "the United States for providing Israel with the funding to carry out the attack, and Western states more generally for using their diplomatic muscle to protect Israel from condemnation." "Genocide begins with the silence of the world," they wrote.[/quote] [url]http://telesurtv.net/english/news/225-Jewish-Survivors-of-Nazi-Genocide-Condemn-the-Massacre-of-Palestinians-20140817-0013.html[/url]
Saw it. If this doesnt ring a bell into Israelis government, nothing will.
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;45729156]Saw it. If this doesnt ring a bell into Israelis government, nothing will.[/QUOTE] Watch as they get dismissed as traitors by the ultra-nationalists.
Such ghastly anti-semitism
I really wish this blows up. I think it'll just be a "yeah, okay, whatever" and this is as far as it'll go, but I'd love it to actually push something.
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;45729169]Watch as they get dismissed as traitors by the ultra-nationalists.[/QUOTE] How can they not appreciate what we're doing FOR THEM?!
These guys deserve the Nobel Peace prize.
Is the Google doc actually the letter? [url=https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?fromEmail=true&formkey=dHZUeHM0Wkw4dWNsMjhWeHZ3RGtDUXc6MA]Link[/url] [QUOTE=Zonesylvania;45729169]Watch as they get dismissed as traitors by the ultra-nationalists.[/QUOTE] Quite likely, apparently the top signatory is part of a movement that opposes the existence of the state of Israel
I'm guessing Lamar won't be banned for posting news from [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TeleSUR"]TeleSUR[/URL] which appears to be a shining beacon of completely unbiased news from Venezuela, nor for neglecting to mention that the letter in question was composed by members of the [URL="http://ijsn.net/gaza/survivors_and_descendents-letter/"]International Jewish Anti Zionist Network[/URL], making it a less-than-spontaneous response to the Gaza war. But whatever.
[QUOTE=ScumBunny;45729754]I'm guessing Lamar won't be banned for posting news from [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TeleSUR"]TeleSUR[/URL] which appears to be a shining beacon of completely unbiased news from Venezuela, nor for neglecting to mention that the letter in question was composed by members of the [URL="http://ijsn.net/gaza/survivors_and_descendents-letter/"]International Jewish Anti Zionist Network[/URL], making it a less-than-spontaneous response to the Gaza war.[/QUOTE] What's your point?
[QUOTE=ScumBunny;45729754]I'm guessing Lamar won't be banned for posting news from [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TeleSUR"]TeleSUR[/URL] which appears to be a shining beacon of completely unbiased news from Venezuela, nor for neglecting to mention that the letter in question was composed by members of the [URL="http://ijsn.net/gaza/survivors_and_descendents-letter/"]International Jewish Anti Zionist Network[/URL], making it a less-than-spontaneous response to the Gaza war. But whatever.[/QUOTE] So they're not Holocaust survivors?
[QUOTE=Lamar;45729900]So they're not Holocaust survivors?[/QUOTE] Some are and some are just decedents.
[QUOTE=ScumBunny;45729754]I'm guessing Lamar won't be banned for posting news from [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TeleSUR"]TeleSUR[/URL] which appears to be a shining beacon of completely unbiased news from Venezuela, nor for neglecting to mention that the letter in question was composed by members of the [URL="http://ijsn.net/gaza/survivors_and_descendents-letter/"]International Jewish Anti Zionist Network[/URL], making it a less-than-spontaneous response to the Gaza war. But whatever.[/QUOTE] A reputable source [URL="http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/15/gaza-propaganda-machines"]covered it.[/URL] He is posting the original-direct source from mouth of the survivors, though it would be preferable to post a recognizable source to prevent this type of distraction in the future.
[QUOTE=cdr248;45729917]Some are and some are just decedents.[/QUOTE] I know, I was responding to ScumBunny's attempt at deflection. They're holocaust survivors, Zionist, or anti-Zionist.
[QUOTE=Lamar;45729900]So they're not Holocaust survivors?[/QUOTE] He's saying that they aren't responding to just this campaign alone. Of the few people on that list who are [I]actual[/I] survivors, many have been anti-Zionist, pro-Palestinian, or anti-Israel for decades
[QUOTE=Lamar;45729900]So they're not Holocaust survivors?[/QUOTE] They probably are, but they are also members of an organization that opposes the existence of Israel, which adds context to their letter that is not present in neither your post, nor your source. Also, quite obviously, the majority of Israel's population are "Jewish Survivors and their Descendants of Nazi Genocide", and significantly more than 225 of them don't oppose the Gaza campaign. Pretty much every Jew of European or north African ancestry over the age of 80 is a Holocaust survivor, and everyone over 40 is likely a direct descendant of one.
[QUOTE=ScumBunny;45730023]They probably are, but they are also members of an organization that opposes the existence of Israel, which adds context to their letter that is not present in neither your post, nor your source. Also, quite obviously, the majority of Israel's population are "Jewish Survivors and their Descendants of Nazi Genocide", and significantly more than 225 of them don't oppose the Gaza campaign. Pretty much every Jew of European or north African ancestry over the age of 80 is a Holocaust survivor, and everyone over 40 is likely a direct descendant of one.[/QUOTE] Jews are allowed to not be zionists as well. Remember that Zionism was going to classified as racism under the UN charter until US veto'd it. Any 'Anti-Zionism' organisations are more likely to be a force for good than otherwise. Zionism needs to die.
[QUOTE=Gentry;45730327]Jews are allowed to not be zionists as well. Remember that Zionism was going to classified as racism under the UN charter until US veto'd it. Any 'Anti-Zionism' organisations are more likely to be a force for good than otherwise. Zionism needs to die.[/QUOTE] That also includes residents of Israel that are allowed to be not Zionists. Not all Israelites are Jews. Maybe fix that?
[QUOTE=Gentry;45730327]Jews are allowed to not be zionists as well. Remember that Zionism was going to classified as racism under the UN charter until US veto'd it. Any 'Anti-Zionism' organisations are more likely to be a force for good than otherwise. Zionism needs to die.[/QUOTE] Yeah... okay. Everyone is allowed their own opinion. However, the (sensationalist) title about a letter by "Jewish Survivors and their Descendants of Nazi Genocide" is clearly designed for shock value, as it could have just as well said "Jews". Since, again, most middle aged Ashkenazi Jews are Holocaust survivors and their descendants. [editline]19th August 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Gentry;45730327] Remember that Zionism was going to classified as racism under the UN charter until US veto'd it. [/QUOTE] Almost forgot. Remember that resolution was [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_General_Assembly_Resolution_46/86"]revoked[/URL]?
[QUOTE=ScumBunny;45730446]Almost forgot. Remember that resolution was [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_General_Assembly_Resolution_46/86"]revoked[/URL]?[/QUOTE] yeah, because the united states pushed for it to be revoked.
[QUOTE=ScumBunny;45730446]Yeah... okay. Everyone is allowed their own opinion. However, the (sensationalist) title about a letter by "Jewish Survivors and their Descendants of Nazi Genocide" is clearly designed for shock value, as it could have just as well said "Jews". Since, again, most middle aged Ashkenazi Jews are Holocaust survivors and their descendants. [editline]19th August 2014[/editline] Almost forgot. Remember that resolution was [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_General_Assembly_Resolution_46/86"]revoked[/URL]?[/QUOTE] Zionism is base racism. All it has ever bred is oppression and terrorism. And anyone who supports it is abhorrent. "hurr this patch on the map belongs to people of this particular ethnic group and no one else because god said so"
[QUOTE=ScumBunny;45730446]Yeah... okay. Everyone is allowed their own opinion. However, the (sensationalist) title about a letter by "Jewish Survivors and their Descendants of Nazi Genocide" is clearly designed for shock value, as it could have just as well said "Jews". Since, again, most middle aged Ashkenazi Jews are Holocaust survivors and their descendants. [editline]19th August 2014[/editline] Almost forgot. Remember that resolution was [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_General_Assembly_Resolution_46/86"]revoked[/URL]?[/QUOTE] Look, I'm all for the Jewish people returning to land that has a deep religious significance. But they way they handled their return has caused nothing but death, destruction, hostilities and hate. [B] - Edit -[/B] And I know that Telesur is nothing more than Venezuelan/Cuban propaganda (Ey, I [I]live[/I] down here), but you know what? Even crazy people have moments of sanity.
[QUOTE=StrawberryClock;45729395]These guys deserve the Nobel Peace prize.[/QUOTE] You're the one who gave it to Obama, aren't you?
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