Charges laid against Montreal taxi driver filmed running over man - Polidicks

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd6pBlgiDd4#![/media] [quote] MONTREAL—A grotesque scene captured on video early Sunday of a taxicab running over a young man in Montreal has led to charges being laid against the driver. The driver appeared in court Monday afternoon while the 23-year-old victim, who is in stable condition in hospital, could also be charged, along with another man, police said. The video shows a taxicab driving wildly while a group of young men violently attacks the vehicle. The incident happened before 4 a.m. Sunday in Montreal’s Plateau-Mont Royal borough, when an argument broke out between the cab driver and his clients. If the commentary by the person filming from a nearby building is to be believed, the conflict began when one of the men slammed the taxi door too hard. The video begins with the car, a Toyota Camry, making a circle as the 23-year-old man kicks the driver’s side door. The arguing escalates and harsh words are exchanged. Someone throws what appears to be a broken piece of the vehicle at the cab’s back window. Other people enter the scene and begin to argue with the driver. The young man then kicks the driver’s side door again, twice. The cabbie reverses, and the man kicks the door again. The driver then moves forward aggressively, narrowly missing some of the people assembled. “He’s sick,” someone can be heard saying. A different man in a white baseball cap kicks the passenger door, pounds on the trunk and then hops on to and stomps on the roof and windshield. It’s at this point that the 23-year-old, positioned at the front of the car, is hit and thrown to the ground as the cab hits the accelerator. Both the front and the back of the car can be seen to bounce as the tires roll over his body. The cabbie does not stop. He continues to flee the scene. Guercy Edmond appeared in court where he was charged with aggravated assault, assault with a weapon, hit-and-run and dangerous driving. The 47-year-old taxi driver will remain in prison until his bail hearing on Wednesday. Another 42-year-old man has been released from custody on a promise to appear should police decide to charge him. The young man in hospital could also face charges, said Const. Raphaël Bergeron of the Montreal Police Service.[/quote] [url]http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/1170271--taxi-driver-in-custody-after-altercation-graphic-video-shows-man-being-run-over[/url] Reminds me of the hit and run in Israel, with kids throwing stones at the driver. They should had just walked away instead of fighting.

If he didn't take action, they would probably have pulled him out of the vehicle and beat him to (possibly) death.

Fighting a car isn't the brightest move one can make. Especially when you are in front of said car.

[QUOTE=Red scout?;35793220]If he didn't take action, they would probably have pulled him out of the vehicle and beat him to (possibly) death.[/QUOTE] How does that make running over someone justifiable when he could have cut his losses and driven away? [editline]2nd May 2012[/editline] The guy who got run over definitely is in the wrong for instigating the fight, but holy shit what is wrong with the taxi driver

[QUOTE=Red scout?;35793220]If he didn't take action, they would probably have pulled him out of the vehicle and beat him to (possibly) death.[/QUOTE] That still does not make it ok to run someone over with a two ton car.

[url=http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a0e_1335920429]Here's[/url] another (possibly NSFW) video from what I believe is the guy in the white sweater. The driver was surrounded and being assaulted by drunken men, he was just trying to get out of there. It's arguably self defense. I don't think he even meant to run him over, he was starting to accelerate when the guy went in to hit the car again and got fucked up.

[QUOTE=_Twitch_;35793381][url=http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a0e_1335920429]Here's[/url] another (possibly NSFW) video from what I believe is the guy in the white sweater. The driver was surrounded and being assaulted by drunken men, he was just trying to get out of there. It's arguably self defense. I don't think he even meant to run him over, he expected them to get out of the way but the guy went in to hit the car again and ended up in the way.[/QUOTE] If I was in the Cabbies situation, I'd be scared shitless. I'd definitely try and defend myself / flee. I guess he chose the former before the latter, in a big way.

[QUOTE=_Twitch_;35793381][url=http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a0e_1335920429]Here's[/url] another (possibly NSFW) video from what I believe is the guy in the white sweater. The driver was surrounded and being assaulted by drunken men, he was just trying to get out of there. It's arguably self defense. I don't think he even meant to run him over, he was starting to accelerate when the guy went in to hit the car again and got fucked up.[/QUOTE] There were other chances to leave before it. After he ran him over he was stuck there for a few seconds before he finally got the back wheels over him. He should have stopped then to not kill him but he floored it.

[QUOTE=jordguitar;35793467]There were other chances to leave before it. After he ran him over he was stuck there for a few seconds before he finally got the back wheels over him. He should have stopped then to not kill him but he floored it.[/QUOTE] I agree he should've left earlier, even turning to the right instead of turning around. However, stopping would have made it worse. Because of the way the man was laying, if he had stopped at any point except for about a 1 foot gap, the car would be be stopped on top of him. He would also be vulnerable to the wrath of the victim's drunken friends. He floored it once he was clear of the man.

[QUOTE=_Twitch_;35793561]I agree he should've left earlier, even turning to the right instead of turning around. However, stopping would have made it worse. Because of the way the man was laying, if he had stopped at any point except for about a 1 foot gap, the car would be be stopped on top of him. He would also be vulnerable to the wrath of the victim's drunken friends. He floored it once he was clear of the man.[/QUOTE] He floored it whilst he was over him.

How can people defend the taxi for not leaving. [editline]2nd May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr Flexi;35793397]If I was in the Cabbies situation, I'd be scared shitless. I'd definitely try and defend myself / flee. I guess he chose the former before the latter, in a big way.[/QUOTE] He seems to be quite happy just to keep circling the group in his car. He could have left at anytime, without speeding into someone. He acted more pissed than scared.

If I was in driver's situation I would probably do the same. Not because I wanted to run anyone over but because I would be shitting myself from fear and stress which clouds one's mind.

[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;35793740]If I was in driver's situation I would probably do the same. Not because I wanted to run anyone over but because I would be shitting myself from fear and stress which clouds one's mind.[/QUOTE] Did you even watch the video? The taxi driver keeps driving away and turning his car back into the group aggressively. He was clearly trying to use his car as a weapon.

regardless of the hit and run, which was awful. That crew of drunks were fucking retarded for attacking a car. I'm not siding with the cabbie but if he did stop the guys friends would have probably killed him. Should have listened to the random voice from a rooftop.

[QUOTE=NoDachi;35793748]Did you even watch the video? The taxi driver keeps driving away and turning his car back into the group aggressively. He was clearly trying to use his car as a weapon.[/QUOTE] Of course he didnt watch the video. He is just throwing threads in just because he can.

I bet the cab driver didn't expect that guy to pop up in front of his car when he hit the accelerate. He could've just taken another direction to flee away instead of having to drive through the group though.

[QUOTE=Red scout?;35793220]If he didn't take action, they would probably have pulled him out of the vehicle and beat him to (possibly) death.[/QUOTE] As I saw the first video I would've agreed on you, but if you see it from another angle than close-up you'll see that he could easily had just driven away.

This happened in my town and as far as I know, one of the street was a one direction and they kept him from leaving through the only direction he really could, so he just said fuck it and floored it on one of the guy, sure this doesn't make it right, but it didn't make what the other guys did right either. I may just be a dick but I can't help but smile a bit when he gets run over, I mean it's retarded to do shit like that and be baffled when something bad happens back to you.

Both guys are total fuckheads

Looks like he had plenty of chances to get away and that he drove in circles almost as if he wanted to run someone over. That said it looks like the guy he ran over was trying to attack his vehicle at the time so he isn't innocent either.

He waited a long time before he kept driving, and the drunktards were at a good distance. Yet he waited till they actually attacked him then he decided to floor it. Both of them are idiots.

I would have been really pissed off and probably done that too if i was him. Its wrong, but sometimes you gotta learn the hard way not to fuck with anyone. I mean, i would have been scared AND pissed off. And the guy who got run over most likely never fucked with anyone after that.

[QUOTE=jordguitar;35793467]There were other chances to leave before it. After he ran him over he was stuck there for a few seconds before he finally got the back wheels over him. He should have stopped then to not kill him but he floored it.[/QUOTE] I am sure the guy accidentally ran the guy over, but I think he was justified to flee so long as he called emergency services (he probably didn't, so he is further in the wrong). If you watch the liveleak video, the rowdy drunks are the aggressors and even try to open the door and get inside the cab, just for confronting them about slamming his door. In situations like this, you assume your life is in danger. If he would have stopped after accidentally running the guy over, there is no telling what they would have tried to do. It's sad it came to that situation, but in the end, SOMEONE was going to be critically injured. I am not saying the cab driver was right, in that situation, everyone was in the wrong... but I honestly don't blame the cab driver for fleeing, he was only putting his life in further danger by staying.

I'm just wondering why he didn't just drive away. In the video he clearly tries to hit them, back up again, stay there, drive again, and then run him over. It's like he was hoping one of them would end up under his car.

At first, I thought. "Really, a group of people attacking this guy and HE gets charged?" But then I saw how long it takes for this all to go down. The cabbie had MORE than ample time to get himself out of the situation.

I understand being scared and not wanting to get your car damaged. But that could have been all fixed with some civil suits, instead he was perfectly protected in a car all they did was hit it with fists and feet. He could have slowly, pushed or rolled forward and got out of the street slowly, but he actually ran someone over. His life wasn't in danger, he was in a car (locked car) and everyone else had fists.

SCORE: Two-tire run over: 25 points PENALTIES: Didn't hit the guy hard enough: -2 points Didn't hit enough of them at once: -3 points TOTAL: 20 POINTS [/insensitive]

[QUOTE=MR-X;35796347]I understand being scared and not wanting to get your car damaged. But that could have been all fixed with some civil suits, instead he was perfectly protected in a car all they did was hit it with fists and feet. He could have slowly, pushed or rolled forward and got out of the street slowly, but he actually ran someone over. His life wasn't in danger, he was in a car (locked car) and everyone else had fists.[/QUOTE] Car windows except windshield and maybe back one can be easily shattered even with a fist. An elbow could break that shit without much effort. Especially if you're drunk.

I have no sympathy for the guy who got hit. Not a single bit.

[QUOTE=NoDachi;35793748]Did you even watch the video? The taxi driver keeps driving away and turning his car back into the group aggressively. He was clearly trying to use his car as a weapon.[/QUOTE] He's trying to turn around and the men are attacking him. Right in the beginning, he's trying to pull up to the guys to confront them, and his car gets kicked. At 1:13 in the OP vid, he's trying to move forward and someone doesn't get out of his way. He [i]brakes[/i], showing he didn't intend to hurt the man. Near the end, a man is [i]jumping on his roof[/i] when he quickly pulls away, runs over the victim, and flees. I don't see murder as this guy's intention, just a mistake while getting the fuck out of there. [QUOTE=Heigou;35794517][i]...[/i] so he just said fuck it and floored it on one of the guy,[/QUOTE] From the first angle it seems that way, but if you watch from the white sweater's angle you can see he floors it after he is clear of the man.